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Presbyterian Leader to Jews: Abandon Israel For America
JPUpdates ^ | 6-17-14 | Boruch Shubert

Posted on 06/17/2014 4:34:06 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

Here we see “REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY” in everyday practice - from those churches who continue to DENY GOD’s WORD that Israel is going to be FULLY RESTORED to their homeland - just as God desires and intends!


21 posted on 06/17/2014 5:02:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SJackson

We have enough of them. Let them stay in Iraq, Iran, and Saudi.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 5:03:14 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: House Atreides

I don’t agree they are as bad as Muslims but PCUSA are quite liberal and this particular preacher is a nutjob.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 5:09:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SJackson

Obviously a deep thinker, idiot.


24 posted on 06/17/2014 5:10:11 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: SJackson

I should also note that one will find this PERVERSE and HERETICAL thinking about the Jews and keeping them out of their homeland that God is currently restoring them to - in such Christian groups that teach REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY — which one will find a foundation for in “Covenant Theology”

The OPPOSING theology, which forms the foundation for the firm support of God restoring the Jews to their homeland - is found in DISPENSATIONALISM!

Here’s something that I just posted in another thread about DISPENSATIONALISM and it’s firm and Biblical support for the full restoration of Israel to its homeland!

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An addition to the information on Dispensationalism ... which forms the BASIS for most Evangelical Christians in SUPPORT OF ISRAEL as STILL SIGNIFICANT in God’s prophetic timetable. The nation of ISRAEL is not only significant, but is ABSOLUTELY INDISPENSABLE in God’s timetable for the immediate future - and the setting up the Kingdom and One-World Government on this earth, over all the nations we see here now - with Jesus, the Messiah of Israel, ruling and reigning from the city of Jerusalem!

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Dr. Mark Hitchcock discusses Dispensationalism as the main topic, but in doing so, also discusses Covenant Theology. Those are the two main “theologies” for how different Evangelical Christians view (i.e., “interpret”) what the Bible says about Israel, the Church, Prophecy, and other such related matters.

It’s a very good “educational” series of sermons given by Dr. Mark Hitchcock, who is the pastor of Edmond Bible Church (in Oklahoma). You’ll get a very good overview and understanding of this from Pastor Hitchcock.

You may have even seen him, yourself, on national TV - various news interview programs - as he is invited to many of them from time to time.

On the series of sermons below, you’ll see that one of them is by Dr. Charles Ryrie of Dallas Theological Seminary. It’s a name you should have heard of. It’s quite an honor for Faith Bible Church to have Dr. Ryrie speak at the church.

In addition, Dr. Hitchcock co-authored a book by Dr. John Walvoord of Dallas Theological Seminary - called Armageddon, Oil and Terror! If you don’t know Dr. John Walvoord, you should get to know him, as he’s considered the “godfather” (so to speak) of Prophecy in our modern Church age.

See below for a brief “bio” of Dr. Mark Hitchcock.

Faith Bible Church
http://edmondfaithbible.com

SERMONS

DISPENSATIONALISM- HELP OR HERESY?, PART 1
Preached by Dr Mark Hitchcock on November 7, 2007 (Wednesday Night).
http://edmondfaithbible.com/?page_id=502&sermon_id=249

DISPENSATIONALISM, PART 2
Preached by Dr Mark Hitchcock on November 14, 2007 (Wednesday Night).
http://edmondfaithbible.com/?page_id=502&sermon_id=251

DISPENSATIONALISM, PART 3
Preached by Dr Mark Hitchcock on November 28, 2007 (Wednesday Night).
http://edmondfaithbible.com/?page_id=502&sermon_id=262

DISPENSATIONALISM, PART 4
Preached by Dr. C. Ryrie on December 5, 2007 (Wednesday Night).
http://edmondfaithbible.com/?page_id=502&sermon_id=264

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DISPENSATIONALISM
Preached by Dr Mark Hitchcock on April 28, 2010 (Wednesday Night).
(Part of the Dispensationalism series).
http://edmondfaithbible.com/?page_id=502&sermon_id=515

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This is a dated bio, but it does give the background, nonetheless:

Mark Hitchcock is a leading Bible prophecy expert, prolific author who has penned over 20 books on the end times, senior pastor, and adjunct faculty member of the Dallas Theological Seminary. He has appeared on hundreds of radio programs and in print as well as The History Channel, MSNBC, Fox, The Glenn Beck Show, and CNN. A leading Christian voice on Mayan 2012 prophecy, he is scheduled to appear on an NBC sci-fi special related to 2012 airing fall, 2009.

A former attorney, Mark initially worked for the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals. Following a call to full-time ministry, today he serves as senior pastor of Faith Bible Church in Edmond, Oklahoma, just outside of Oklahoma City. He graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary in 1991, where he subsequently earned his doctorate in 2006 and more recently has served as an adjunct faculty member.

Hitchcock has been a contributing editor for the Left Behind Prophecy Club for many years. His new book 2012, the Bible, and the End of the World (Harvest House Publishers) will be released September 15, 2009. He has also recently released Cashless (July 1, 2009, also published by Harvest House), showing how today’s headlines foreshadow a new and vastly different economic future—a one-world economy that is consistent with Bible prophecy in Revelation 13.

Some of his other titles include: The Late Great United States: What Bible Prophecy Reveals about America’s Last Days; Armageddon, Oil, and Terror; Iran the Coming Crisis: Radical Islam, Oil and the Nuclear Threat; The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse; What On Earth is Going On?; Is America in Bible Prophecy?; The Coming Islamic Invasion of Israel; Is the Antichrist Alive Today?; Seven Signs of the End Times; and What Jesus Says About Earth’s Final Days.

Hitchcock maintains an active speaking schedule, appearing frequently at prophecy conferences, seminaries, and churches. He and his wife, Cheryl, live in Edmond, Oklahoma with their two sons Justin and Samuel.

Date of Birth: July 17, 1959

Place of Birth: Oklahoma City

Salvation: June 10, 1965 while watching Billy Graham on TV

Education: BS 1981 (Okla. State Univ.); JD 1984 (Okla. City Univ. School of Law); ThM 1991 (DTS); PhD 2005 (DTS) Dissertation topic: A Defense of the Domitianic Date of the Book of Revelation

Work: 1984–88 Attorney, Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals
Ministry: 1991–Present Senior Pastor, Faith Bible Church (Edmond, OK) Prophecy editor of an internet ministry The Left Behind Prophecy Club

Family: Married to Cheryl, Two sons, Justin and Samuel


25 posted on 06/17/2014 5:11:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yes, that was Stalin’s assumption.


26 posted on 06/17/2014 5:16:31 PM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: SJackson

Jews to Presbyterian leaders: Piss off and stick your antisemitism where the sun don’t shine.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 5:17:15 PM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: SJackson

sounds like he and the pope should go to mecca to pray next week...


28 posted on 06/17/2014 5:28:43 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: SJackson

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/010%20Renald%20Showers%20-%20Conflict%20of%20the%20Ages%20-%201.mp3

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/011%20Renald%20Showers%20-%20Conflict%20of%20the%20Ages%20-%202.mp3

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/012%20Renald%20Showers%20-%20Conflict%20of%20the%20Ages%20-%203.mp3

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/013%20Renald%20Showers%20-%20Conflict%20of%20the%20Ages%20-%204.mp3

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/014%20Renald%20Showers%20-%20Conflict%20of%20the%20Ages%20-%205.mp3

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/015%20Renald%20Showers%20-%20Conflict%20of%20the%20Ages%20-%206.mp3

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/Israel%20Message%201.wma
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/Israel%20Message%202.wma
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/Israel%20Message%203.wma
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/Israel%20Message%204.wma
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/Israel%20Message%205.wma
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/Christian%20Sound%20Files/Israel%20Message%206.wma


29 posted on 06/17/2014 5:32:33 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: SJackson

I’d tell him to go...know...himself.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 5:37:15 PM PDT by RichInOC ("ARMAGEDDON!!!")
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To: Gen.Blather

I will not argue with anything g you’ve experienced. However just to point out one extremely critical difference between the kibbutzes and communism — the participants of the kibbutzes joined them voluntarily. Also they may leave anytime they wish. Since everyone naturally associates “ communism” with tyrannical dictatorships, forced “membership” or enslavement, and the loss of individual liberty, I never use that term when discussing the kibbutzim. It conveys a terribly inaccurate image. (The term “ voluntary communes” is quite workable, IMHO) Just a small thing in a way, but also it has some importance. Interestingly also, while the small kibbutz segment of Israeli society contributed a disproportionately large number of leadership people, the greatest economic growth and success in that country has taken place since it took several steps back towards more free markets and capitalistic investments. Thus, even the voluntary form of socialized living has pretty much failed to outdo a more competitive model But yes, there are still some people who choose to remain in kibbutzim and from the interviews I’ve seen it appears that mode of life is quite agreeable for some folks. I say, fine and dandy — it’s their choice as free citizens — and all the very best to them! Best regards.


31 posted on 06/17/2014 6:30:00 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)w)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SJackson.


32 posted on 06/17/2014 6:37:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SJackson

This Grimm guy must really love demonstrating his ignorance.


33 posted on 06/17/2014 11:02:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SJackson
On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: 'To your descendants I have given this land'
- Genesis 15:18

I could not locate the biblical passage in which God promised America to the Jews, and I also missed the part where He took back Israel and gave it to someone other than the Jews.

34 posted on 06/18/2014 1:35:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Well, all kinds of references to non-Catholics, particularly in New England, considering America the Promised Land. Starting most forcefully with the Pilgrims. Not for Jews, they being the new Jews. Replacement theology stuff, though the reference to America as a refuge for actual Jews rather than the New Israel is creative. The most interesting thing, the rather shameful Presbyterian Leader doesn’t think there’s any necessity to consult the Jews.


35 posted on 06/18/2014 4:28:47 PM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: House Atreides

You know, if it weren’t for my time on FR, I’d think there were simply Presbyterians. Somewhat different movements. Important only to me, most people see the headline and don’t differentiate.


36 posted on 06/18/2014 4:31:20 PM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: Vinylly
Thanks for the link. Not only do I not have a problem with Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard, and Motorola Solutions providing products to help Israel maintain checkpoints, I wish they'd help with our border too
37 posted on 06/18/2014 4:34:29 PM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: Star Traveler; Genoa

You’re correct about this being the everyday practice of replacement theology. I had nothing to add to your posts, but wanted to acknowledge them.


38 posted on 06/18/2014 4:37:50 PM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: Gen.Blather

Ex-pats tend to be liberal and anti-nationalist. KLibbutzniks were never a majority and were only so prevalent because they collaborated with the British to keep Revisionist Zionists out. Israel did not become communist, much to the chagrin of the Soviet, leading to their repeated attempts to destroy Israel. Israel is less socialists today than pre-Thatcherite Britain.


39 posted on 06/18/2014 10:52:55 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: SJackson

PCUSA-The religion for gay anti-semites.


40 posted on 06/19/2014 5:55:04 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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