Posted on 03/29/2014 2:08:56 PM PDT by DTA
Rohm and the SA were way to the left of Hitler, even advocating Nationalization of all industry.
Hitler knew the industrialists feared Bolshevism above all, precisely out of fear of them losing their companies, and most likely being put up against the wall, which certainly would have happened if Rohm and Company got their way.
Hitler knew he needed those industrialists on his side if he was to have his war machine.
wikipedia entry is short but leads to some more interesting links
The Solidarity train from before the Soviets liberated western Ukraine in 1939
Polish - Ukrainian War 1918-1919 (They had airplanes!)
... and a good chance they "played for the other team" if they were in the SA/Brown Shirts before 1934.
You might want to sign up for The Blaze for two weeks (for free). Go to March 19th, where they put on “The Soviet Story” which goes into great detail about the Soviets, their relations with the Nazis, & ultimately what happened in the Ukraine. An eye-opener for sure.
If you don’t want to go to The Blaze, the video is available for sale at Amazon.com, but it will cost a bit.
So in your version of “history” Stalin did not kill a good many Polish Communists during the Great Terror, and there was neither a ZPP nor an Armia Ludowa. Interesting... counter-factual, but interesting.
Of course he did those things, but you claim UPA-OUN were fighting Polish Communists.
And you do know what Stalin said regarding trying to impose Communism on Poland, something like “trying to put a saddle on a cow.”
“The Soviets tried to stop the Nazis from 1933-39. France and Britain tried to steer Hitler East. Until August 1939, the Soviets tried to forge an alliance with Poland, UK and Britain against Hitler. Poland said no.”
Russian propaganda by omission.
The Russians treacherously agreed to conquer and divide up Poland. Every single Russian killed by the Germans, owes his death to the Soviet/Russian government. You reap what you sow.
Stalin cooperated with Hitler to destroy the German Communist Party in the 1930s....Stalin feared a strong German Communist Party because they could eventually rival Moscow for leadership in the World Communist movement.
FYI...
I haven’t had much time to be on FR lately, maybe this is old news/not exactly true/other? but maybe it might be of interest to you. And you will probably know the facts of the matter.
“Stalin cooperated with Hitler to destroy the German Communist Party in the 1930s....Stalin feared a strong German Communist Party because they could eventually rival Moscow for leadership in the World Communist movement.”
Communists killing communists and jihadis killing jihadis is a great foreign policy. If they do it on their own accord, it’s just a beautiful thing.
Could you give a very short summary for those without $ and/or time...
(I have neither at the moment)
It's long past time to stop claiming that Chamberlain and [following his lead] the French are responsible for the rise of Adolph Hitler. Throughout the late years of the 1930's every country in Europe was playing unprincipled diplomatic games for its own ends, and no one was more treacherous nor more responsible for insuring that Hitler would not face the thing he feared most -- a second front -- than Joseph Stalin.
The Soviets sowed the wind. They reaped the whirlwind.
According to “Hidden Hitler”, he did have homo tendencies. At least coprophilia. I think the author is Lothar Machlan.
You’re saying the AK was Communist front?
They started the war along with Hitler. Either Stalin or Hitler would have started war in Europe on their own.
Stalin wanted war in the West, he figured the German, French, and British armies would bleed themselves dry, allowing the Red Army to swoop in from the East and clean up.
Only one thing Stalin didn’t count on, France going down without a fight, leaving the German army intact, and Britain neutralized, which meant Hitler could immediately turn his attention Eastward.
“This article doesn’t mention the atrocities and genocide of the Soviets in these countries before WWII and thus the subsequent embrace of the Germans as liberators by some of the population.”
Good point; anyone analyzing WWII without examining the problems Europe had with communism through the 20s and 30s is telling half a story (often deliberately). Both Hitler and Mussolini came to power in countries in danger of communist revolution, and when Spain was torn apart by the communists in 1936 the only countries willing to fight communism there were Italy and Germany (while Stalin and the communist International Brigades supported the left). The war in Spain (which ended in 1939) showed Europe and the world what communism would mean for them: mass executions of Catholic clergy (8,000 priests, hundreds of nuns, and a dozen bishops), the elimination of private property, and mass starvation. When Europe was faced with a choice between fascism and communism, most chose fascism; as American troops landed in French North Africa in 1942, French bullets exposed the lies they’d been told about what was happening in Europe. To this day the myth of the “French resistance” endures, while Americans continue to mock the weak resistance of the French to the Axis invasion without ever understanding what motivated them.
“The Russians treacherously agreed to conquer and divide up Poland. Every single Russian killed by the Germans, owes his death to the Soviet/Russian government. You reap what you sow.”
The worst (and most obvious) scandal for Poland was that Britain & France allegedly declared war on Germany for invading them, but no similar action was taken against the Soviets that invaded Poland from the east. At the end of the war, those Allied deaths proved pointless as Poland was simply given to the Soviet Union
The relationship between the US and the Soviets was shameful as well; until the end of the war, while Americans fought & died in the Pacific, the Soviets we saved from collapse observed a truce with Japan...
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