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Ron Paul: Iím worried that the government might kill Edward Snowden with a drone
The Washington Examiner ^ | June 11, 2013 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 06/11/2013 5:02:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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During an interview with FOX Business, former Rep. Ron Paul explained that he was concerned about the well-being of National Security Agency whistle-blower Edward Snowden.

“I’m worried about somebody in our government might kill him with a cruise missile or a drone missile,” Paul explained. “I mean we live in a bad time where American citizens don’t even have rights and that they can be killed, but the gentlemen is trying to tell the truth about what’s going on.”

Paul added that there were no signs of Snowden defecting to a foreign country, which meant that he was not really a threat.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: drones; edwardsnowden; lping; murder; nsa; obama; paul; randpaul; ronpaul; snowden
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why would they use a drone. When the old fastion ways work so well?

You use the best tool for the job. Drones don't work well in cities if you don't want to draw a lot of attention.

101 posted on 06/11/2013 6:31:45 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: Alaska Wolf

seems millions of us have then but you have no problem with the 4th amendment being broken then , OK got it you enjoy your phone calls and talking about private conversations, oh wait they’re not private they know your health, your money, your toilet issues, what you buy, wen you go out, , well enjoy that and maybe the idiots in the country of the sheep population might wake thehell up


102 posted on 06/11/2013 6:32:32 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: mountainlion

Yup. And then no one will blink and eye. They’ll dummy up some report about how he always had lung, brain, heart, whatever problems. Even freepers will call anyone who doesn’t believe the natural causes meme a conspiracy theorist. Then his coroner will be poisoned. Everyone will move on.


103 posted on 06/11/2013 6:33:18 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Tau Food; montanajoe
No one would believe a suicide at this point, would they?

You mean besides everyone on CNN, CBS, NBC, PBS and half those on Fox? Only the 56% who think that spying on Americans is a fine idea. And montanajoe, of course...

104 posted on 06/11/2013 6:34:26 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: manc
we have a secret Govt spying on us who then goes to a secret curt which has secret judges appointed by who we do nto know and then the secret judges in the secret court only hears the evidence from the secret Govt and some are OK with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've summed that up nicely.

And, who can claim to be "innocent" anymore? We know what you read and we know what you say. You are not innocent. ;-)

105 posted on 06/11/2013 6:34:27 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: yadent

“Why ANYONE still obeys any law is a wonderment....”

Maybe because those who don’t have to follow laws might want to make an example of me. As you said, “...an occasional US citizen assassination without due process...” Gets the attention.

Not that I think we’ve arrived at that point yet...


106 posted on 06/11/2013 6:35:09 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: montanajoe

So domestic spying is not only OK, but expected, unavoidable and even desirable?


107 posted on 06/11/2013 6:35:51 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: yadent

Unjust conduct, when unpunished, from ‘authorities,’ does have a chilling effect on compliance with the law by others. One might say, ‘if there is no virtue in sight, then why should I step back in the name of virtue?’ However, I would exclaim that stepping away from virtue is really just cowardice. But what is virtue? Virtue is known (or should have been known) as the law. Yes, think about it.

We obey the law because we are philosophically committed to the Rule of Law. We are committed to the idea that there should be a just and legal jurisprudence, and that such a jurisprudence is an aspect of, and necessity for, any happy and sane civilization. We obey the law because we believe that it is better to act justly and virtuously than to act otherwise. We also obey the law, even in the face of the unjust, in order to set an example of what is just for all to see, and perhaps from which they may learn virtue.

That’s only about the best way I can express that thought tonight, but I hope you see my humble point, FRiend.


108 posted on 06/11/2013 6:35:57 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: montanajoe

off point, are you serious, for crying out loud the 4th amendment ignored , that alright with you is it because they have done it before even though they said they were not doing it?

Now again what secrets did he give away and for saying off point then you are the person sitting there attacking the guy who instead should be looking at what he said but no you go with those B/S talking points.

you sit there and repeat B/S talking points out by obama, Feinstein , Bohner, Cantor etc and then you might ask why the hell are we in such crap right now

wake up, the problem is with obama and his thugs not a guy who has given no secrets away and I bet you think he has but never questioned what secrets exactly because you have not answered that question have you, all easy to call someone a name with no facts


109 posted on 06/11/2013 6:36:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Tau Food

it’s all secret
secret judges
secret courts
secret Govt spying in us

and some sheep sit there and shout traitor and yet wen asked what secrets did he give away they can’t answer because they just repeat the obama talking points and the ruling class talking points.

What is even more scary is a couple of freepers going along with this crap, falling for the divert attention away and Alinsky tactics


110 posted on 06/11/2013 6:38:35 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: null and void
Until there are secure boarders, profiling by ethnicity and religion is common place and radical Islam is utterly defeated and shown to be morally bankrupt domestic spying is unavoidable and to be expected.
111 posted on 06/11/2013 6:40:31 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

That, sir, is called trading freedom for safety.

I trust you know the rest of the aphorism?


112 posted on 06/11/2013 6:42:43 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

I know, that’s the sad part. The man is a hero and patriot for what he did. Not counting anything else, this revelation puts him in a class just below Paul Revere as warning bell ringer but he`ll probably pay with his life, and there are actually so called freepers who want him to be taken out, assholes, the lot of them!


113 posted on 06/11/2013 6:43:04 PM PDT by nomad
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To: manc
some sheep sit there and shout traitor and yet wen asked what secrets did he give away they can’t answer because . . .

. . . becaiuse it's a secret!

Yes, it's all pretty crazy.

114 posted on 06/11/2013 6:46:16 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: nomad

The Tree of Liberty requires periodic watering.

It’s not always straightforward to determine if the blood is from a patriot or a traitor.


115 posted on 06/11/2013 6:46:59 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: John D

Yup....some people claim the govt reads your emails and listen to phone calls. Some claim the IRS is used as a political bludgeon. Some claim guns are run to Mexico to subvert the 2A.

They’re crazy/s


116 posted on 06/11/2013 6:47:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: null and void
That sir is being serious about being fighting a war and defeating a mortal threat to everyone in this country.
117 posted on 06/11/2013 6:49:05 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Tau Food

sometimes I don’t know if to laugh or cry at the public today.
I heard a woman saying traitor earlier but when I asked her for details she said he gave secrets away, OK what secrets
no answer.

the 4th amendment was put in place for a reason and now some on our side think we should rip it up and spy in people


118 posted on 06/11/2013 6:49:09 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Tau Food

Even Orwell would be shocked at the current system.


119 posted on 06/11/2013 6:49:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nomad
What these detractors don't realize is this is not what the Patriot Act was advertised to be. It was a system to find terror based on cause or connections.

It was never supposed to be a comprehensive, intrusive peek into every phone call and email of Americans. Now with the known track record of Obama/IRS, there is little doubt what has happened to the scope of this operation.

There are a lot of folks here that are not near as conservative as I thought they were tonight. Very sad.

120 posted on 06/11/2013 6:50:12 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: montanajoe

No, you’re wrong.

He didn’t take an oath to protect the folks far above his pay grade.

He was in the military and took an oath to protect the U.S.Constitution.

Find a copy and read it.


121 posted on 06/11/2013 6:50:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

It wouldn’t surprise me if the NSA got “intel” which caused the IRS to target conservative groups. I wonder what the totalitarian “conservatives” would think then?


122 posted on 06/11/2013 6:51:53 PM PDT by RB156
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To: montanajoe

So you support Obama and Maxine Waters over Benjamin Franklin? Good to know.


123 posted on 06/11/2013 6:51:53 PM PDT by RB156
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To: montanajoe

So then I take it we are safe from bombings at marathons by muslims. Oh wait......


124 posted on 06/11/2013 6:52:01 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SatinDoll

He had a security clearance..look up what it means. He is a traitor


125 posted on 06/11/2013 6:53:09 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: null and void
Look him up, he`s a one issue drone. The war on terror, that's it. A simple and single minded approach, "they want to kill us", nothing else. No realization that the response to this admitted threat, just like that to the "war on drugs" or the "war on poverty" is worse then the threat itself. Read his home page, a robot drone to a T.
126 posted on 06/11/2013 6:53:46 PM PDT by nomad
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To: catfish1957

the Patriot Act specifically prohibited spying on Americans without cause. Yet some even here go along with it in the name of a security which will NEVER come.


127 posted on 06/11/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: montanajoe

What do you call the people working at the NSA ILLEGALLY spying on Americans?


128 posted on 06/11/2013 6:54:53 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Or turncoat traitors in the military that turn on their fellow soldiers.
129 posted on 06/11/2013 6:57:15 PM PDT by nomad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Ron Paul had a son....


130 posted on 06/11/2013 6:58:38 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

As long as obama says whatever they are doing is A-OK, they are the True Patriots...


131 posted on 06/11/2013 7:01:26 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I call folks who oppose the NSA and the Defenders of this nation Liberaltarians...not Conservatives.

and those who put their personal view of the Constitution over the National Security of this nation useful idiots or fools

132 posted on 06/11/2013 7:01:41 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe
He had a security clearance..look up what it means. He is a traitor.

The same can be said for Obambi.

133 posted on 06/11/2013 7:03:13 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: manc
I won't call the guy a traitor, but when I saw his interview, I came away with the impression that there is something not quite right about him. Nothing serious, but it's sort of like the old days when a pin ball machine flashes TILT.

I hope it wakes people up so that we can confront the trade-offs between security and privacy (or safety v. liberty). I'm not optimistic, though. Like the kid said, the technology just keeps getting better at scooping and sorting data for the government and big business.

The kid probably didn't do much harm, but I'm not sure that in a year from now, we'll conclude that he did a lot of good, either. The technology represents some powerful forces (both business and government).

At this stage of my life, it's losing practical significant. Visits to doctors are starting to seem like parole hearings. Before too long, I'll win parole.

But, the government's been right about me. I was never really innocent at all.

134 posted on 06/11/2013 7:04:18 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Paladin2
Let’s compile a list of Traitors currently active in Fed. Gov’t and see where Snowden ranks.

Post of the day year CENTURY.

135 posted on 06/11/2013 7:05:00 PM PDT by LaybackLenny
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To: montanajoe
I`ve read your home page, you sir, are a one issue, drone. No one has said that islamist terrorists are not a threat but your hero O`Bozo has not done much domestically to stop them. I would rather face threats here from them then threats from a runaway government that has REAL weapons, wants a dictatorship, and views lovers of freedom as the REAL enemy. But I suppose you trust O`Bozo and his cronies, right?
136 posted on 06/11/2013 7:06:45 PM PDT by nomad
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To: null and void

See tag line.


137 posted on 06/11/2013 7:08:50 PM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: montanajoe
You sir, are the definition of the use full idiot.
138 posted on 06/11/2013 7:08:55 PM PDT by nomad
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To: montanajoe
I call folks who oppose the NSA and the Defenders of this nation

So people who snoop on average citizens for political gain are defenders? Wow you are one warped individual.

Again, you are the liberal for supporting a rogue government that intrusively searches and snoops without cause. Keep digging.

139 posted on 06/11/2013 7:08:55 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t his own son end his filibuster regarding drones? I hate the Paul’s about as much as the Bush’s


140 posted on 06/11/2013 7:09:26 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: montanajoe

A single minded one at that.


141 posted on 06/11/2013 7:10:11 PM PDT by nomad
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To: montanajoe

I worked for the Navy Security Group as a linguist and cryptanalyst and yes, I had a TSC. I served during Reagan’s Presidency. We were extensively lectured about NOT following illegal orders.

Ever heard of the Nuremburg Trials? All those Nazis bleeting how they were only following orders...well, they were hanged anyway.

You need a refresher on exactly what it means to be an American.

Been an Obama cook-aid drinker long?


142 posted on 06/11/2013 7:10:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: satan

*ouch*


143 posted on 06/11/2013 7:11:03 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Tau Food
"But, the government's been right about me. I was never really innocent at all. "

But, likely, you've been right; the Gov't is guilty - to the core.

144 posted on 06/11/2013 7:11:27 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: nomad
O`Bozo has not done much domestically to stop them

He probably could have stopped the Boston bombings, except in the punk POTUS' eyes, conservatives and the Tea Party are the real threat

145 posted on 06/11/2013 7:11:34 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: catfish1957

Read his home page, that tells it all.


146 posted on 06/11/2013 7:12:19 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad
Pal you are a Liberaltarian trying to get traction for your pacifist belief's by calling your self a Conservative.

You are right I am one issue which is the fact that the US is losing the war on terror. I was out of the country last month and had a chance to see it again close up.

I'll drone on about the need to fight and win this war and you and your buddies can smoke a joint and sing Kumbayah

147 posted on 06/11/2013 7:12:52 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: SatinDoll

Where are the viking kitties?


148 posted on 06/11/2013 7:13:36 PM PDT by nomad
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To: manc
you have no problem with the 4th amendment being broken then ,

You're the one who hadn't noticed, aren't you? Do you own property, have a telephone, electricity, internet service, checking, savings or 401k account, SSN, insurance, own stock, a vehicle, have operator's licenses, fishing, hunting, animal licenses, etc.? Nobody has to search far to find out about you, do they?

149 posted on 06/11/2013 7:13:45 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: nomad

I don’t know, but they’re never around when I need them!


150 posted on 06/11/2013 7:14:51 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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