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Middle-Schoolers Think Bullies Are the Cool Kids
Educationnews ^

Posted on 02/11/2013 8:38:33 PM PST by chessplayer

One of the main barriers to putting in place anti-bullying policies in middle schools is the simple fact that middle-schoolers think bullies are cool. A recent study of 2,000 students at 11 middle schools around Los Angeles found that when students were asked to identify their most respected peers and those engaging in nasty behavior, the lists were often quite similar.

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1 posted on 02/11/2013 8:38:35 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Thank you Murphy Brown.


2 posted on 02/11/2013 8:41:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: chessplayer

I wonder how much they spent on that DUH finding?


3 posted on 02/11/2013 8:42:12 PM PST by mnehring
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To: chessplayer

how often do you see TV shows and movies that don’t depict the “cool” kids as bullies?


4 posted on 02/11/2013 8:42:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Most don’t now. It is all this big, recent anti-bullying push on TV and in the movies. Really, it is just hokey. Not that I’m for bullying but most go all 80s sitcom on how to deal with bullies when in reality, they need their butt whooped by their parents or the victims to stand up. Instead, they all just talk about their feelings. Really, what middle schooler does that?


5 posted on 02/11/2013 8:46:46 PM PST by mnehring
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To: chessplayer

The low information voters do too.


6 posted on 02/11/2013 8:49:53 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: mnehring

Well, I do think it deserves to be talked about even if it took a bazillion dollars to get someone to DO it.

A wicked spirit stalks our children.


7 posted on 02/11/2013 8:57:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: mnehring

Talking about feelings with no God acknowledged is like talking about hunger with no food around. Utterly pointless, but what else are you gonna do.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 8:59:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yup. Hard to stop bullying when the other kids admire them and cheer them on as they beat the crap out someone for no good reason.


9 posted on 02/11/2013 9:01:21 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Because they’re all already in gangs.


10 posted on 02/11/2013 9:02:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer
Middle-Schoolers Think Bullies Are the Cool Kids...a major problem for all the libs trying to brain wash and reprogram the populace into believing just as they do - at bottom, people will believe what their experiences tell them to believe - same problem they have with trying to normalize homosexuality - the (admittedly few) early-teen-aged kids I come into contact with give lipservice to seeing nothing wrong with homosexuality, to the extent that they understand it, but they still talk about how weird and silly gays often seem to them - truth crushed to the ground, and all that.....
11 posted on 02/11/2013 9:07:32 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: chessplayer

If they didn’t say that, the bullies would beat the snot out of them.


12 posted on 02/11/2013 9:11:46 PM PST by bigbob
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To: chessplayer

"In return for not hitting any of the masters, the Head had allowed .. certain privileges, such as having unmarried Filipino women in his room, smoking opium, and having a sauna instead of prayers"

13 posted on 02/11/2013 9:14:38 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: mnehring
Most don’t now. It is all this big, recent anti-bullying push on TV and in the movies. Really, it is just hokey. Not that I’m for bullying but most go all 80s sitcom on how to deal with bullies when in reality, they need their butt whooped by their parents or the victims to stand up. Instead, they all just talk about their feelings. Really, what middle schooler does that?

I was bullied in junior high (what's now called middle school) when I transferred from one school district to another. Hence, I was the n00b with all that entails.

It was among the best things that ever happened to me. Really.

Almost like Ralph Parker in the movie, A Christmas Story, I "has all I can stands and I can't stands no more!". I didn't quite become the Tasmanian Devil but I beat the snot out this guy. It's probably a cliche, but the onetime bully and I then became great friends through the rest of junior high and until we graduated from high school and went our separate ways.

Frankly, a lot of the sissy boys could use a little bullying to straighten them out. No, I'm not advocating thuggery -- just some good old playground fights. Back in my day, getting a bloody nose or a black eye was a rite of passage that turned some boys into men.

I'm not sure how well received my viewpoint will be received here and I realize that things have changed (especially since busing killed the neighborhood school) since the 40s and 50s when I came of age. But I've stated my experience with honesty and with candor so I'll take my virtual lumps here just like I did with the real thing so many decades ago. :-)

14 posted on 02/11/2013 9:21:00 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: chessplayer

I’ve been saying for years that it the self-esteem movement caused more bullying. The educationists cant figure it out.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 9:21:56 PM PST by Montanabound
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To: chessplayer

A bully = the Fonz...


16 posted on 02/11/2013 9:24:09 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: re_nortex
Back in my day, getting a bloody nose or a black eye was a rite of passage that turned some boys into men.

I sure got plenty of beat downs in my day. I'd like to think it was because it was a different era, but I know the truth is it was because I always mouthed off to my older brother.

17 posted on 02/11/2013 10:04:26 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: hosepipe

I always looked at the Fonz as a reformed bully.


18 posted on 02/11/2013 10:14:40 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: chessplayer

Low info. These kids don’t have a chance for a real life.


19 posted on 02/11/2013 10:19:55 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: chessplayer

That says alot about this generation. Back when I was in school, bullies were seen for what they were - thugs and future criminals which more often than not they turned out to be.


20 posted on 02/11/2013 11:49:42 PM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: mnehring

That’s how it used to be. A bully or group of them would usually pick on the wrong person or they would make too many enemies and the bullied would band together and teach the thugs the error of their ways. Today nobody is really held responsible for their actions, and even worse thug culture is glorified. The strong eat the weak. Whatever happened to the Golden Rule?


21 posted on 02/12/2013 12:07:41 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: chessplayer
Sixty-seven years have proven to me that humans are pack-oriented animals. One will be the Alpha or a follower, depending on the situation.

Like many mammals, there is a lot of snarling, growling and nipping. But rarely any fatal damage done when we're pups.

To pretend this jockeying for rank in the pack (bullying) doesn't take place is to ignore reality.

22 posted on 02/12/2013 3:02:56 AM PST by Makana (Today's solution is tomorrow's problem.)
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To: chessplayer

As a victim of Bullies in school, I think back at all that happened and realize it made me the person I am today. Bullies serve a function, of sorts, they make us stronger, they make us tougher, they make us survivors. Some are not able to handle the pressure and that must be due to parents, religious leaders, friends, etc... Bullies will be with us always, let us try to deal with it rather than outlaw it—because like prostitution, we will have it with us always.


23 posted on 02/12/2013 3:27:56 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Yep...and it doesn’t just end upon graduation; bullies are everywhere in an adult’s life too. I’ve met more than my share in the corporate world. Of course, “standing up” to them now will usually get you fired...lol.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 4:43:38 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: re_nortex

There is truth to this. The decision to fight back against a bully is a defining moment in many a boy’s transition to manhood. Unlike the movies, you may well STILL get the snot beaten out of you, but the bully will probably move on to an easier target. So....mission accomplished.

IMHO, the kids who are sufficiently strong and big enough a$$holes to harass the weaker ones will always be seen as “cool”, I think its programmed into our genes and probably had more of a point when we were hunter-gatherers. Is it fair or right? No. But many things in life aren’t fair. The important skill is being able to deal with, and overcome, the unfairness.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 4:50:01 AM PST by rbg81
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To: re_nortex

You’ll get no argument from me - I often wonder how these kids are going to make out in the real world after school when the anti-bully police aren’t around to hold their hands - the first few years in a job or the military are going to provide rude awakenings for many of them.......


26 posted on 02/12/2013 9:55:35 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

A building site job with an asshat attitude will get them fired within 1 hour.

Dittos for military training.

They will learn that boss is boss and work is work. If they never learned a skill, they don’t have a chance.

God isn’t tolerant with the able and lazy.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 10:02:43 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/)
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