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Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials
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Posted on 01/25/2013 5:27:23 AM PST by Perdogg

Not everyone will have to abide by Senator Dianne Feinstein's gun control bill. If the proposed legislation becomes law, government officials and others will be exempt.

"Mrs. Feinstein's measure would exempt more than 2,200 types of hunting and sporting rifles; guns manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; and weapons used by government officials, law enforcement and retired law enforcement personnel," the Washington Times reports.

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To: Perdogg

WE THE PEOPLE are all Government officials.


51 posted on 01/25/2013 7:19:47 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: VRWCarea51

Gun owners and conservatives. Fire up the ovens, here we come.


52 posted on 01/25/2013 7:33:28 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Perdogg

What does the actual bill say? The devil is in the details...


53 posted on 01/25/2013 7:48:09 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: BCW

E-vil guns here. Warning, your eyes may bleed.

The devil is in the details. What would an liberal judge do with this law?

” or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.”

This could work in reverse. What if an lib judge decided that a 1911 was once full auto, because John Dillenger had one so the 1911, and other semi-auto pistols could be banned.

The Ausies took a bolt action rifle and converted one to full auto in the early years of WWII. Hiram Maxim and John Browning also converted lever action Winchesters to full auto. What if a liberal judge decided that these could be banned because of experiments to make them full auto.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2981469/posts?page=44#44


54 posted on 01/25/2013 7:53:33 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Perdogg

Smart local sheriffs can nullify this law by simply deputizing every gun owner in the county. :)


55 posted on 01/25/2013 7:59:14 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Details-correct!

Times quote implies GUNS used by govt officials are exempted.

So I can use one of them??

I bet not. What does the bill SAY?


56 posted on 01/25/2013 7:59:42 AM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: muir_redwoods
They can pass the laws but they can’t force compliance on 100 million gun owners

Unlike Healthcare, they can't deduct our guns from our paycheck. *If*/When they succeed in making us all criminals, we have a lot less to lose by engaging in civil disobedience and otherwise ignoring their rules. Once they force us to become criminals, we'll become much more creative in disrupting and starving the beast.

Hopefully, saner heads will prevail.

57 posted on 01/25/2013 8:01:47 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Perdogg

“The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens’ lives and personal security...”

Damn right we do! But more to the point. More innocent people were slaughtered by out-of-control governments in the 20th century than all the violent crime and civilian mass shootings in human history combined. The average human being in the 20th century was many times more likely to die at the hands of abusive government than from any form of civilian crime. Gulags, concentration camps, and mass genocide are not the purview of deranged individuals. They are the product of governments that have achieved too much power (and the megalomaniacs who lead them).

How on earth can people not see that getting rid of guns is far more deadly than having them?

Given the choice of trusting my neighbor with a so-called assault weapon, and trusting some bureaucrat in a government office. I choose my neighbor. People of principle realize there are worse things in this world than being gunned down by a nut-job. Living without freedom is worse (and actually more dangerous on the average).


58 posted on 01/25/2013 8:05:45 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Perdogg

59 posted on 01/25/2013 8:08:52 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Perdogg

Pro gun states will have to deputize all their citizens.


60 posted on 01/25/2013 8:19:28 AM PST by pallis
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To: Biggirl
Civil War 2 is coming.

Yep, and that's the real reason for the exemptions....they don't want to be out gunned.

61 posted on 01/25/2013 8:23:58 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Perdogg

Fidel approves of this message.

62 posted on 01/25/2013 8:26:14 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Perdogg

I’m exempting myself as well. I could say more, but that will have to suffice for now, I am busy priming empty brass....


63 posted on 01/25/2013 8:31:47 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Kozak

WHAT is so special about “retired police personnel” that they get a special dispensation from our laws?

I smell a Giant Loophole!!!

Get someone like Sheriff Joe to Deputize you and then about a minute later you “retire”, screw you Feinstein!


64 posted on 01/25/2013 8:32:25 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials

 photo Alitohearings.jpg

She really gets off on government power grabs.

65 posted on 01/25/2013 8:33:36 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: South Dakota

You don’t have to. And you won’t be alone if you don’t. But, at some point you may have to fire a shot in anger.


66 posted on 01/25/2013 8:34:26 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Kozak

I was wondering the same thing when I read this. I was thinking that they might be used to police the citizens in their own neighborhoods?


67 posted on 01/25/2013 8:47:46 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Perdogg

Tat old c*** hag should be spending time in a retirement home, not be some loose cannon in the Senate. What are the dumb@$$es in CA going to get rid of this old b**** ?


68 posted on 01/25/2013 8:50:02 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: South Dakota

“...Why do I as a law abiding citizen have to give up the weapon ...”

You don’t. It’s a choice. You either choose to comply, or you don’t.

There’s consequences, sure; how many are willing to bear them? That’s the question.

But there is always the choice. Nobody can ever take that away.

And it’s the same choice as the Founding Fathers and the ordinary folks of their day who just wanted to live out their lives, raise their families according to their belief in God, love their land and Country, and be left the hell alone had to face. Same as us, here, now.

And they agonized over it, same as us, here, now.

It’s all pretty simple when you put it in perspective.

We’re here, we live, we do some things, and then we die. Hopefully, the things we do are good things that leave the world a little better than what we inherited.

And we inherited a pretty damned fine place, paid for in blood and lives.

We owe it to those people who paid that bill to make sure that it’s STILL here after us.

Might be a simplistic way of seeing things...but I’ve found that the simple view is often the right one...


69 posted on 01/25/2013 8:51:31 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Never going to happen. They can pass the laws but they can’t force compliance on 100 million gun owners

Exactly right - force being the operative word. Even if the majority of gun owners chose to buckle to such an unconstitutional gun grab, those who didn't would still far outnumber the federal jackboots.

70 posted on 01/25/2013 8:52:31 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I was wondering yesterday with the prayer, if they are attempting to sett up God?

Are they trying to undermind people’s faith in God. Here a man of the cloth ,prayed for God to control guns, and when it doesn’t pass into law- will they blame God?

Will they claim there is no God? Will they erode people’s faith and then swoop in to save them?

I believe that is part of this drama.


71 posted on 01/25/2013 8:54:08 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Perdogg

Hey, if Princess Fauxcahontis can claim Indian genealogy with no proof, why can’t I claim I’m a high ranking gub’mint employee without proof? There, the ban no apply to me.


72 posted on 01/25/2013 8:55:08 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Perdogg

Senate.gov

Call your Senators.

Today.

Don’t let the momentum build, like they are trying to do in VA today.


73 posted on 01/25/2013 8:55:34 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Perdogg

74 posted on 01/25/2013 8:57:01 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MestaMachine
I do not have a single one of these malicious killers anywhere near me.

Um......me neither ;-)

75 posted on 01/25/2013 8:59:00 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Biggirl

You know, I agree. Some form of a revolution or civil war is going to come again. Not sure just how soon, depends on when the piled and piled upon finally say enough and revolt.


76 posted on 01/25/2013 9:10:29 AM PST by southernindymom
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To: Perdogg

Exempting themselves - just like they did with Obamacare.

What a shock.


77 posted on 01/25/2013 9:20:13 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Kozak
"WHAT is so special about “retired police personnel” that they get a special dispensation from our laws?"

Perhaps they fear them...They have training, and maybe some contacts, and access to personal information on most of the sticky butted politicians that are destroying our country...that and a powerful union that would use that info for their benefit....maybe..?? they wouldn't want to make them mad... Blackmail always works on a politician...!! "Political leverage," as they say...

78 posted on 01/25/2013 9:23:01 AM PST by unread
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To: dragonblustar
She really gets off on government power grabs.


79 posted on 01/25/2013 9:28:50 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Biggirl
Civil War 2 is coming.

"There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free² if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending²if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable²and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come. It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace²but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!!"

Part of the speech given by Patrick Henry at St. Johns Church..March 23, 1776.

I think all of us need to once again read his words and give them serious thought...there is little doubt that revolt is coming...We're just waiting for George Washington to show himself...I really believe our Constitution will survive intact...But its going to cost the blood of patriots to make it so.....

80 posted on 01/25/2013 10:07:23 AM PST by unread
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To: KarlInOhio
Another word for a retired cop is civilian.

My best guess as to why this was included is because most state, local and fed officers all have significant personal owned weapons themselves and are just as concerned about loosing them as we are.

This is an effort to encourage current LEOs to enforce the new restrictions because they have no incentive to do so if it will mean loosing their own guns.

I am a retired LEO and I do not think I have anymore rights than an average citizen. This is the standard dem playbook. Divide and concur, divide the law abiding citizens from the LEOs and military. Because if they are united against government tyranny the Marxists can not achieve their goals.

81 posted on 01/25/2013 10:09:06 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: NFHale

ahhhhhhhhh...HaleRant...short but sweet !!!


82 posted on 01/25/2013 10:10:27 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: unread

Seriously, any politician should be STRUNG UP for EVEN INTRODUCING a bill that imposes onerous restrictions on citizens while exempting government officials.


83 posted on 01/25/2013 10:10:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: usurper

Look for the move towards promoting the “oathkeepers” oath for LEOs who are working at this time with the current military.


84 posted on 01/25/2013 10:17:28 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Perdogg

It’s the “unwashed masses” that they’re afraid of...not themselves. It speaks volumes to their true intent.
Anyone that complies with this law is an outright fool.
Buy hey, since they’ll be illegal anyway, just convert em all to full-auto and literally have a blast. These communist azzhats are nothing but a bunch of moronic fools.


85 posted on 01/25/2013 10:24:58 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: BCW

Both banned under the ‘semiautomatic version of a fully automatic weapon’ clause. There were FA versions of both.


86 posted on 01/25/2013 10:32:30 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Travis McGee

Not surprised that Holder explicitly supports brainwashing as a tactic to support anti-gun initiatives. The government and its allies in the media, entertainment industry and education system have already brainwashed our kids into thinking the world is going to burn up or sink under the waves if we keep emitting CO2, and that buggery is no big deal. When you control schools, media and popular culture, brainwashing is not that difficult.


87 posted on 01/25/2013 10:56:50 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Words fail me when I try to describe how much I loathe this treasonous POS.


88 posted on 01/25/2013 11:05:27 AM PST by allblues ("God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat.")
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To: NFHale
Thanks for all of that..

If I could write that well, I could be somebody..!! :)

89 posted on 01/25/2013 11:05:53 AM PST by unread
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To: unread

Wouldn’t it be great for some patriotic Senator to get up in the Senate and read Patrick Henry’s speech, word for word, without attribution. The gasps and shouts would come hard and fast, not least because very few of those politicians will recognize the words of one of America’s founders. It’s time for America to return to its roots. And one effective way of doing so is to educate Americans by quoting the Founders at every opportunity.

“The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” ~ James Madison


90 posted on 01/25/2013 11:06:12 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: allblues
Words fail me when I try to describe...

*************

I understand that....

That why I use pictures and caption frames as often and possible!!

91 posted on 01/25/2013 11:30:05 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Perdogg
"Four legs Gooooood,
Two legs Baaaaaaad!!!!!

92 posted on 01/25/2013 1:07:26 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: South Dakota

“Laws for thee ... “
It’s not much different from the Democrats’ attitudes about the Affordable Care act and exemptions, guards in what schools, what is `private property’ and on-and-on.
I was saying to the wife just before dinner that this country is starting to resemble medieval England: No `poaching’ in the king’s forests, higher-and-higher taxes, only `gentlemen’ wear swords, and on-and-on.
And Congress—federal government generally—is looking more-and-more like Orwell’s bloody swine.
Revelations 14: 18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.”
19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.


93 posted on 01/25/2013 6:54:42 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: KarlInOhio
I can understand (but still not like) the idea of current law officers being allowed otherwise prohibited weapons

The fallacy in your statement is that any weapons would be otherwise prohibited. The 2A is there to insure the populace i as well, or better, armed than government forces.

Further, when the 2A was written people were expected to protect and care for themselves...........in all actuality this is still true today as the police are under no duty to protect you. Even while they are in uniform, on duty, armed, and the crime is being committed in front of them. They are under ZERO obligation to come to your aid.

94 posted on 01/25/2013 7:48:52 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Perdogg

Its Animal Farm all over again.


95 posted on 01/25/2013 11:41:59 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Perdogg

Its Animal Farm all over again.

Come to think of it, a close look at Feintein’s face leads any reasonable person to conclude that she is more than slightly porcine.

She needs to be held down just to hear her squeal.


96 posted on 01/25/2013 11:44:05 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Windflier

My CAR-15’s manufacturer in not on the list. They left it out. Guess I can take it to California!

These leftists are out of their league.


97 posted on 01/25/2013 11:56:05 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: unread

Thanks, unread.


98 posted on 01/26/2013 12:28:55 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: unread
We're just waiting for George Washington to show himself...

Perhaps, and I do not know it will be what is to happen, but what if this time a leader of the statue of George Washington comes from and in the form of a woman? A woman, with a voice for all Americans, who holds the Constitution in the highest regard and is willing to raise her voice to instruct in and harmonize with the document of our nation's Founders. Women have the most to lose in a society that is unarmed. Women are the most vulnerable to one holding a weapon on a woman when that woman has no weapon of her own or those persons closest to her could not protect her because they too have been disarmed. Men are vulnerable too. But the key is perhaps a woman of Faith and a woman who holds this nation and this nation's Constitution in the same regard as a man. Men have been demonized to the point of perhaps no man could gain the trust of the American people because of demonizing done by the left wing and the lame-stream media. What if there was a woman who would and could and did? What if there was a woman the left wing and the lame-stream media would attack and those attacks could be repelled and what was done was restoration of America's ideals. A dream, one may say. Yes a dream! A dream of the very ideals of what made America ... America.

Thank you unread. Your post was the inspiration for this post. May this post inspired by your post be considered worthy of being read.

99 posted on 01/26/2013 4:53:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Perdogg
Like the Caesars of Rome the ruling class needs it's Praetorian Guard to defend it against the Plebs and against it's own military units.The Praetorians were kind of a internal mercenary army much like we have today held together with special privileges and pay.
100 posted on 01/26/2013 7:19:25 AM PST by johnny reb (When in the course of human events.....)
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