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A well managed, successful American company gets defrauded for half a billion dollars. China is a cesspool of fraud and deceit. A lot of big companies will rue the day they invested in this Asian Potemkin village.

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1 posted on 01/19/2013 8:22:32 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“China is a cesspool of fraud and deceit.”

Necessary addition ...

“The American Federal Govt. is a cesspool of fraud and deceit.”


2 posted on 01/19/2013 8:26:58 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

China’s economy is full of fraud, especially their economic stats


3 posted on 01/19/2013 8:26:59 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Around fourteen years ago...some Asian guy appeared out of thin air...bought up several major Asian sewing machine companies, and then started to find capital interest for buying Singer, along with various French, Italian, and German sewing machine companies. He was creating this massive company to manage all sewing machine empires.

So the day came when he approached a New York bank and wanted in excess of $500 million to conclude a deal for a major Russian sewing machine company. This bank was down to the final moments of the deal, and then some young executive was sent on a plane to Russia to just view the factory before they did the final approval.

He shows up in a taxi at the front gate of this factor that is over 100 years old, and in terrible shape. He spends around thirty minutes (by description of the article I read) with the security guard, and comes away with the idea that this company hasn’t made a profit in their entire history...so that’s not much of a way they are worth $50 million....let alone $500 million. They stopped the deal.

Within months....this entire empire began to fall apart, and almost every country touched by this Asian guy....ended up in bankruptcy court and taking over the old company because of incompetence in financial handling.


4 posted on 01/19/2013 8:30:14 AM PST by pepsionice
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Communism badly hobbles China from becoming what it could be. I do not wish China ill. A free China would be a boon to the world.


5 posted on 01/19/2013 8:42:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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A smart company will "invest" in China knowing exactly what it is getting out of it.

The book value of a company's "investment" in China, as reported on the company's balance sheet, should be listed at $0. The only value this "investment" has is its capacity to produce large quantities of cheap crap by slave labor that can then be sold in the U.S. (and elsewhere) for a monetary return.

This is why Apple outsources the production of their iPhone components to China. The company doesn't even pretend it has a financial stake in the Chinese companies that produce these things. All Apple cares about is that these Chinese "assets" -- with no nominal value at all on Apple's balance sheet -- can produce components that are shipped all over the world and sold to consumers. The only "asset" Apple cares about is the finished product and the price it fetches in the mobile phone market.

8 posted on 01/19/2013 8:46:55 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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I don’t feel the least bit sorry for them or any other American company dealing with China.


9 posted on 01/19/2013 8:50:08 AM PST by Revel
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Ah, you want material certifications? Yes, we can get material certifications for you. What you want them to say?


11 posted on 01/19/2013 9:06:53 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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If you are selling equipment, never accept a Paypal account. Always cash./s
12 posted on 01/19/2013 9:07:51 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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Here is another story about China I saw today in Canada Free Press that claims that Obama is negotiating with China to sell off Federal land in exchange for debt forgiveness. Story is at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/obama-selling-out-america-literally/#VbA8JrXk3vi9QfBS.99


17 posted on 01/19/2013 9:39:32 AM PST by patriotsblood
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chicom bump for later......


21 posted on 01/19/2013 10:32:40 AM PST by indthkr
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Fraud and corruption in China? Who knew?

“Paging Jackie Chan ... paging Jackie Chan ....”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2977382/posts


22 posted on 01/19/2013 10:44:58 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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Chinese companies range from efficient, well-run producers of top-quality goods all the way down to the lyingest scam artists on Earth. China produces great stuff, and China produces utter crap.

Everything you have heard about China - good and bad - is true. China is so huge that both realities exist simultaneously.

Joint ventures with Chinse firms obviously involve much more risk than merely buying finished products, and therefore require much more due diligence. Many American companies have built successful new venture in partnership with Chinese firms. But it sounds like Caterpillar - like HP - got a little lazy with the research in their zeal to make some easy money.

23 posted on 01/19/2013 10:53:47 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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I am sure the Free Trade Communists who routinely shill and support Free Trade with Communist China...will have some spin on this

StupidNomics rears its head again...getting burned by the Communist Chinese

The Commie Chinese know they can roll any American concern because of Free Trade stupidity. This nonsense will end once the US starts slapping tariffs on the Commie Chinese


25 posted on 01/19/2013 2:31:45 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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I agree. Some of us have been watching this develop for years. The worst is yet to come.
26 posted on 01/20/2013 10:21:59 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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