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Guardian: Paedophiles are 'ordinary members of society' who need moral support
The Telegraph ^ | January 3rd, 2013 | Damian Thompson

Posted on 01/03/2013 3:55:05 PM PST by Salman

Britain's most persecuted minority have found a new advocate. An article this morning in the Guardian by feature writer Jon Henley addresses misconceptions about paedophiles, quoting one "expert" who believes that: "It is the quality of the relationship that matters".

No, this is not not some sick send-up on my part. "If there's no bullying, no coercion, no abuse of power," says Tom O'Carroll, "if the child enters into the relationship voluntarily … the evidence shows there need be no harm."

O'Carroll is a former chairman of the Paedophile Information Exchange with a conviction for distributing indecent photographs. The Guardian acknowledges this, but gives him a respectful hearing and points out that "some academics do not dispute" his views.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: degeneracy; homosexualagenda; liberalism; progressiveagenda
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To: TADSLOS

A rotten corpse crawling with maggots with vultures feeding on it.

I left out social fabric, family standards, “entertainment”, culture, and probably a lot more. The entire social body is sick unto death.

My last tagline, maybe I should bring it out of retirement:

“We will have to go through hell to get out of hell”.


61 posted on 01/03/2013 7:18:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: null and void

Are you kidding.? The liberals would want to give him a third term.


62 posted on 01/03/2013 7:23:50 PM PST by Venturer
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To: little jeremiah
“We will have to go through hell to get out of hell”.

Yep.

63 posted on 01/03/2013 7:28:36 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: happilymarriedmom

I don’t agree with it not being harmful either. It may not bother the child when they’re young, but as they get older...


64 posted on 01/03/2013 7:29:02 PM PST by virgil
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To: SaraJohnson
What if it was the "uneducated" father who committed the acts and the "uneducated"mother who permitted it and looked the other way?

No, the victim child was not well-served by her/his violators no matter what the champions of perversion may claim.

The "whores of Babylon" will lie and claim perverversion be normalcy but those who fear God will know and speak the truth, at least for a time before they sell out to agents of evil and perversion for political expediency.

65 posted on 01/03/2013 7:34:33 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Venturer

A third term and a six year old.


66 posted on 01/03/2013 7:53:41 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: Salman

Uh no they are not,real pedophiles are pretty nasty animals.Who will lie,cheat and destroy your child just to get their way with him or her.You are not going to have any compassion for them,if you ever have to deal with them.

There is only one right way for dealing and “curing” that trash.


67 posted on 01/03/2013 7:56:47 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: Salman

Uh no they are not,real pedophiles are pretty nasty animals.Who will lie,cheat and destroy your child just to get their way with him or her.You are not going to have any compassion for them,if you ever have to deal with them.

There is only one right way for dealing and “curing” that trash.


68 posted on 01/03/2013 7:57:00 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

If your kid is in kindergarden or any public schools their minds are being raped as I type—and their worldview is being flipped if they are Christians. They want American kids thinking like the Afghani harem boys who dream of sodomizing little boys when they grow up. They are sexualizing children through schools and media which is the easiest way to corrupt and warp them and collapse culture. Without Virtue, there is no Freedom.

Sex Ed in public schools is designed by Cultural Marxists-—(the Brave New World where children have sexual rights) and they are normalizing sodomy—(Vice) even in the military now through force of law (unconstitutional since it is a Vice and Just Law can never promote Vice and stay Just)-been doing it for a generation with gay “pride”days——and Heather has two mommies.

The following is the result of exposing young children to Sex Ed (Evil) along with vulgar TV shows promoting and glorifying evil behaviors. The public schools with Billy Ayers-type curricula writers have been doing this for decades-—and is why the young vote overwhelmingly is for the Satanic Right to sodomize people (homosexual orgies with children have been part in all pagan/occult/Marxist/Atheist/Nazi/Muslim cultures. It is why the Left loves muslims who are sodomites.

Note that Corey Feldman claimed all the Hollywood producers were pedophiles and he was sodomized and passed around in their orgies like the other Corey who committed suicide——like that Sandusky group and the Franklin Cover-Up with the Republicans-—Freemason sodomites like the Bohemian Grove Kissinger-—They have an agenda-—to destroy God.

(Ethics of Christianity authored individuality—dignity for all humans. Sodomy removes dignity and is essential to Satanic worship since it removes the image of God from humans and reduces them to base animals.)

http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/radical-georg-lukacs_to-achieve-the-communist-utopia-lukacs-launched-a-graphical-radical-sex-education-program-promoting-free-love-and-promiscuity/


69 posted on 01/03/2013 7:57:41 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: zerosix

I’m on your side. Kids are totally easy to manipulate for adults. The whores will lie, lie, lie...like they have about homosexuality and homo marriage. The public school education system and courts are already ordering sexual grooming activities in the schools. They are targeted children and teens for sex.


70 posted on 01/03/2013 8:11:14 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: BykrBayb

Like I said 10 years ago after Massachusetts was the first state in the gay parade:

First they’ll claim worries that gay “marriage” will eventually lead to the mainstreaming of adult/child relationships,or polygamy,or whatever, are “straw man arguments!.....That’ll NEVER happen”.

.....then it’ll change to “What’s the harm? How does it hurt you?”

(Now where have we heard that before?)


71 posted on 01/03/2013 8:49:35 PM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: Buddy Sorrell
Eventually, people who don’t want to see their kids raped will be painted by the media as extremists.

You'll NEVER see a MSM newspaper print the addresses of pedophiles the way they'll print the names and addresses of permitted legal gun owners... That tells you where they stand ... where they stand right now...

72 posted on 01/03/2013 8:56:56 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Salman

So a child cannot be expected to be mature enough to drive or vote or drink or smoke or get tattoos or piercings or see movies or fly alone or play sports against older kids... but they ARE wise enough and mature enough to enter into sexual relations with adults, who would NEVER use the inexperience and naivete of kids to take advantage of them sexually. I see. Thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense to us all now. *ahem*


73 posted on 01/03/2013 9:11:59 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: GOPJ

Ummm, there are many online databases of sexual convicts... and there isn’t enough room in ANY daily-printed periodical to print all the names of either list.


74 posted on 01/03/2013 9:16:45 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Salman

In the studies purported to say not all children are harmed by molestation, 70-80% said “it was horrible”. Now they use the 20-30% that say “I’m OK” or “it’s not bad” to legitimize pedophilia?
And those children who are molested and do not think they are harmed by it are warped so badly that they do not recognize the damage.
Children by definition cannot consent. Not to sex, not to credit cards, not to anything serious. Children are forbidden to have sex to ensure that they are not taken advantage of by adults or hurt by other children, just as 12 year olds cannot drive and 15 year olds cannot enter life-altering contracts.
This legitimization of pedophilia is going to get a lot more kids hurt, accelerate the destruction of trust and innocence in many more, and likely create more future pedophiles.


75 posted on 01/03/2013 9:19:52 PM PST by tbw2
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To: happilymarriedmom

For proof of the damage pedophiles do, I’d recommend the book “Kinsey: Crime and Consequences”. Their data on the innate sexuality of children was derived mostly by pedophiles - used to legitimize the sexual revolution, and now to justify pedophilia.


76 posted on 01/03/2013 9:23:07 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Teacher317

Newspapers wrap stories around ads... that’s why your Sunday paper is heavier and has more pages. More ads - more news... Space is a ratio... It’s something like 60 - 40 or 70 - 30 ... I knew once - don’t anymore... Almost unlimited ‘news’ could be printed - but not at a profit.

In a responsible paper ads determine the number of pages. Have you noticed how ‘light’ a Saturday paper can be? It’s not that there’s less news...

My local paper made a point of NOT printing names and addresses of pedophiles because they feared for their safety. It was some years back - but I’m pretty sure I’ve got the gist of what they were saying.

To be fair, they also have not printed names and addresses of gun owners either - much to their credit...


77 posted on 01/03/2013 9:39:22 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Teacher317

We are talking about pedophiles, right? You think there’s so many in a community that a local paper wouldn’t have room to print the names? I believe you’re wrong on this...


78 posted on 01/03/2013 9:42:47 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Lizavetta

Any country that tolerates,let alone encourages depravity as ours does,is asking for collapse.


79 posted on 01/03/2013 9:43:17 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Lizavetta

Any country that tolerates,let alone encourages depravity as ours does,is asking for collapse.


80 posted on 01/03/2013 9:43:32 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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