The SCOTUS Just Woke Up a Sleeping Giant (Vanity)

June 28, 2012 | pistolpackinpapa

[pistolpackinpapa]

One Republican Congressman, whom I believe they said was from Arizona, just said the same thing I said after this Ruling:

"Today, the Supreme Court awakened a sleeping giant. This changes the Election drastically." This has so angered people and will cause many to realize, this is no small matter. This is no game. We MUST Elect Mitt Romney, and a GOP House and Senate on November 6, 2012 so this ObamaCare Mess, our new Tax the Supremes gave us today, can be repealed and totally dismantled.

I believe this "victory" for the Obama Thug Brigade in the White House, will be short-lived. This will fire up people who were somewhat lackadaisical about this Election. We have to get the Marxist out of the White House.

It ain't over Mr. President. WE'RE JUST GETTING WARMED UP!!!

[pistolpackinpapa]

Well hell, PA always goes for the DemocRAT in the Presidential Election anyhow, so go ahead and vote for Virgil Goode. It won’t hurt anything.

[zeugma]

Cool thanks for the reminder. I think I saw the original threads for that. Did we end up going through the entire anti-federalist?

[Graewoulf]

You have us wrong. Romney is a great guy. It is Socialism that we rebel against.

Romney has a problem: He refuses to shed his Obama”care” Godfather Image.

Ponder this from another thread:

First you had better get Romney to drop his crap about it being “ - - - simply unacceptable - - - “ that 20 million Americans still aren’t covered by Health Insurance.

If Romney won’t dump his loyalty to the idea of an Insurance Safety net, then it is time to DUMP Romney with an ABSTAIN vote on the first ballot in Tampa.

BTW, Romney”care” safety net can easily be expanded into Obama”care” safety net without SOCTUS even lifting a finger.

Romney”care, “ Obama”Care;” Obamalite, Obama, Treedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber, eeney, meeney, miney ——what difference does it make?!

[pistolpackinpapa]

Why the F—K did we end up with this Fcking Rino as our nominee????? Last time there was McCain...now Romney. What is wrong with people???
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I’ve said this before; I’ll say it again: We have met the enemy and he is us. The Moderates run one candidate in the Primaries. The Conservatives run 15 candidates in the Primaries. The Conservatives bite, devour and destroy each other during the Primary Season and the Moderate waltzes in to the Coronation.

[dfwgator]

The Conservatives run 15 candidates in the Primaries.

All of which sucked.

[Publius]

We did only 25 of the zillion anti-Federalist Papers collated by the University of Chicago in their massive 1987 multi-volume effort.

[pistolpackinpapa]

And you propose to solve that problem by electing a [monied] socialist? Ha!
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Well, what is your solution, a**hole?

[pistolpackinpapa]

You are personally so much the problem with this country. Do you really think the father of socialized medicine is going to repeal Obama care. You stupid people....

HOLD IT RIGHT THERE YOU MOTHER F-----!!!! Don't you dare call me stupid. I did not vote for Romney in the Primaries and he was not my choice, but he is the friggin' hand we've been dealt. All we have to go on is his promise to repeal JudgeRobertsCare. We know the Marxist Muslim we currently have in the White House won't do it. Romney is our only hope. Do you have any suggestions for getting us out of this mess a**hole?

You sound awfully tensed up. You might want to talk to your old lady about giving it up for you tonight so you can relieve some of your pent up aggression.

[txrangerette]

JudgeRobertsCare is fine.

I wanted it to have the same flowing alliteration as obamacare so I made it shorter.

The J stood for John as in John Roberts, but was run together with RobertsCare so it would flow when pronounced.

I have no problem with either one.

[OneWingedShark]

Well, what is your solution, a**hole?

Well, we need to start being assholes. Not this "go along to get along" crap.
My solution is to start playing the legal game against out overlords; and none of this "now isn't the right time" or accepting "you don't have standing" bullshit. Simply put, the ballot box is for the most part useless right now, so we need to go about things differently; two other options spring to mind: Jury box and Ammo box.

We really should be using the ammo box right now; it is obvious the Constitution does not constrain the governemnt and has been obvious for some time; we are, however, not ready for that course of action. Simply as a matter of logistics; we are not in any position to carry out such warfare. (Oh, and it's not treason or overthrow of the government that I'm advocating; the Declaration of Independence is recognized as law and reserves the right to oust from power those seeking despotism; furthermore, removing people from office via violence *IS NOT* destroying the office itself.... merely creating a vacancy.)

So that leaves the Jury Box, unless and until the logistics above are addressed, and this means we have Fun With Laws!
First off we need to make people aware of the Jury's right of nullification, AND MAKE SURE IT IS USED. If juries always acquit anyone who violates Obamacare then the accused cannot be legally punished.

Second, there's methods we could call the political/legal warfare, wherein we use the law as a weapon against political positions/stances. This can be done by maneuvering the argument such that the political stance being embraced is a blatant illegality. As an example let's consider NM.

New Mexico's State Constitution gives the Governor the power/responsibility to protect from invasion. It says, in Art 5 sec 4, "He shall have power to call out the militia to preserve the public peace, execute the laws, suppress insurrection and repel invasion." Implicit therein is the ability to declare that the state is being invaded. So the governor can declare that the masses of illegal immigrants is an invasion (and an invading force need not be armed) and call on the militia to seal the border with military violence. Then, using the US Constitution, Art 4 Sec 4, demand assistance from the federal government; this leaves only three options for the fed-gov:

1. Send the required aid; absolutely intollerable politically for the open-borders folk, won't happen.
2. Dither about/dissemble/feet-draging; shows that the federal government is all about optionally complying with the Constitution, and will encourage other states to act independently (ie reduce the control of the fed-gov)
3. Move against the state; this is, by the US Constitution, treason.
   It can be done multiple ways:
   1. Executive: military power -- What do you think the result of the FedGov firing on a State that is protecting itself AND ASKING FOR HELP is going to be?
   2. Executive: denial of actions/aid -- Again, not politically wise.
   3. Legislative: Declare the invasion-declaration to have been illegal. Oops, that's both ex post facto AND a Bill of Attainder!
   4. Legislative: deny funding to the state. -- Again the same as the Executive.
   5. Judicial: Declare that the States cannot declare an invasion -- Ignore them, try them in absentia (if they will not come) for Treason against the State of New Mexico using the federal court's own ruling as "confession in open court."

In fact the above would be so powerful that States could have a long list of "Dead or Alive" wanted persons consisting of all those who are acting against that state... which may even include the State's own senators/reps.

[LibFreeUSA]

-"It's too soon for an overall judgment of Roberts, but this may be his Dred Scott case...the one case that history vilifies him for when everything else is forgotten."

On that, we can agree.

[Bigg Red]

I pray that all the FReepers who hate Romney, will realize that they hate the anti-Capitalist, Socialist mind-set that has taken over this nation, even more and will PLEASE not stay home or waste their vote on a 3rd Party Candidate but will vote for Romney and GOP candidates down the ballot on Novermber 6th.

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Ditto!!!

OMG! OBAMA MUST GO!

Romney is not and has never been my choice, but our republic simply cannot survive another 4 years of the Obamunist.

No

[pistolpackinpapa]

even though our Senator promised to vote against it, then reneged, so we threw her out of office.
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And which Senator was that?????

[pistolpackinpapa]

Ref. Your Post #192: No, we get it. We just have to take one thing at a time.

[pistolpackinpapa]

Re: Your Post 198: I’m down for it.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

And which Senator was that?????

BLANCHE LINCOLN of Arkansas.

[JulieRNR21]

I’m in total agreement with you.....

After today’s disappointing SCOTUS ruling, to get rid of Obamacare and uphold religious freedom we have to do it ourselves.

The only way to save America is vote for Romney in November....Julie

[napscoordinator]

Well hell, PA always goes for the DemocRAT in the Presidential Election anyhow, so go ahead and vote for Virgil Goode. It won’t hurt anything.

Well let’s see. The last time that Pennsylvania went for Republican President was in 1988 with George HW Bush....And then the Republicans chose Dole, McCain, and now Romney.....Can they get any more RINO or liberal as Romney’s case....Give Pennsylvania a decent choice and I guarantee they will vote for that person.

[pistolpackinpapa]

You forgot to mention that PA did NOT go for George W. either but went for Al Gore and John Kerry. Also, you said:

“Give Pennsylvania a decent choice and I guarantee they will vote for that person.”

So you are saying that Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama were the DECENT choices? Hmmmmmmmmmmm......

[pistolpackinpapa]

Oh yeah; I forgot about Blanche baby. Thanks.