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Why Romney Can't Win
NOPC Network ^ | 4/13/2012 | Steve TMFO Elmore

Posted on 04/22/2012 10:08:57 AM PDT by katiedidit1

I'm backing Newt and hoping for a brokered convention, where Romney's lead in the polls will mean NOTHING. The remaining candidates plead their cases to the convention, and as we've seen, Newt SLAUGHTERS everyone in a debate. And it's more than that. I've never been a big fan of Newt's, but he's done one thing better than anyone else; he ATTACKS AND THE ATTACKS STICK. And when the opposition attacks, he blocks the shot and unloads even harder.

THAT is what it's going to take to beat Obama. Anything less, and we can kiss our country and our asses goodbye.

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To: SunTzuWu
I'll say it again. You're much better off facing an overt, avowed enemy outside your gates, than allowing a traitor wearing false colors inside.

Have you actually read Sun Tzu?

81 posted on 04/22/2012 4:00:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SunTzuWu

Since recovering from liberalism after college, I have always followed the Buckley rule.

My brother, who does not, is still kicking himself for having voted for Ross Perot, who gave us eight years of a filthy pig in the White House, another filthy NY Senator, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Steven Breyer.

I will vote “not Obama” realistically, and with my eye on the Supreme Court.


82 posted on 04/22/2012 4:03:27 PM PDT by NYpeanut (ABBO)
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To: SunTzuWu

Why are you so afraid?

The guy will be totally ineffective if he gets four more years. We survived the first four, we can get through four more if we have to just fine!

C’mon, stop falling for the progressive’s propoganda!


83 posted on 04/22/2012 4:09:59 PM PDT by ngat
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To: NYpeanut

Dude, the Buckley rule has brought us nothing but continuous advancement of the progressive agenda.

Wake up.

And stop buying the progressive lie that it was the most conservative guy in the 1992 race, Ross Perot, that caused Clinton.

Ross Perot is not the reason the people tossed Bush the Elder out of office. In fact, poll after poll after poll sfter political analysis after analysis of that campaign shows Clinton winning with or without Perot in the race. We have nobody to blame but ourselves.


84 posted on 04/22/2012 4:18:35 PM PDT by ngat
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To: roamer_1
A null vote is not the same as a vote *for* Obama. it is null. It has no potential.

Sorry my FRiend but you are wrong. In a two part balancing equation, failure to add to one side (not voting) increases the imbalance between the two sides. It is the same as adding one to the other side.

85 posted on 04/22/2012 4:18:45 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Windflier
Have you actually read Sun Tzu?

Read it? I wrote it...

86 posted on 04/22/2012 4:20:08 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: ScottinVA; SunTzuWu; roamer_1
Ditto here. I`m not voting for a homo marriage-backing, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing, health care system usurper like Romney.

I`ve had it with RINOs and their “you-need-to-support-me- because-the-other-guy-is-worse” routine. All the GOP gives in routine is a continual lurch leftward. Look, the GOP-e despises the Tea Party movement as little beyond a “necessary evil” that is to be tolerated at best and disdained at worst.


"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying. You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party. They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Doofuses: we don't live in a parliamentary system where representation is divided proportionally between the losers!

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.
"Hey, I don't like these liberal bumper stickers on this fully functioning vehicle or the places its driver is taking us, right? So, I've got, like, this great plan to deal with that, 'kay? Instead of tossing the driver out on his butt and getting some more appropriate body detailing and then driving it wherever we want to go, we're going to get out at the next corner, wag our fingers really hard at the driver as he speeds off, and then from scratch build our own new most perfectly conservative vehicle and, someday, maybe, enter that into the race! And won't that glorious day be, oh, so grand?"
And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Dream on.
87 posted on 04/22/2012 4:27:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ScottinVA; SunTzuWu; roamer_1
Ditto here. I`m not voting for a homo marriage-backing, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing, health care system usurper like Romney.

"No, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to use my vote to make sure Obama stays in power and is able to finish what he started. Yeah, that's the moral thing to do."
88 posted on 04/22/2012 4:29:36 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Stars&StripesNE

If Obama is reelected, blame the damned GOP for consistantly producing an inferior product. They don’t deserve all the blame. A lot of idiots continue to line up to “buy” their garbage. Otherwise, they would have “gone out of business” a long time ago.

But what am I saying? Romney will surely win. You guys keep telling me how he’s so darned electable! Since he’s so darned electable, any vote from me would simply be redundant!


89 posted on 04/22/2012 4:32:18 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Windflier
Absolutely! No one has done more to wake us up to what both parties are doing than obama.

I've used up whatever blinded me to the rino insanity game when they ran McCain and now can't vote for rinos any longer, so I'm left with voting my conscience.

The GOPe keeps running their rinos and conservatives keep telling ourselves we MUST vote for their rino progressive to keep the demonrat progressive out of the WH. This works really well for them, so the GOPe keeps doing it. Why should they stop?

We just keep pulling the handle for their progressive rino, while telling ourselves that next time we'll vote for the one we really want, b/c next time it will be different, over and over again.

Why wait until next time to do the right thing, according to your conscience?

Who can say how it will go, but like you say:

You're much better off facing an overt, avowed enemy outside your gates, than allowing a traitor wearing false colors inside.

Remember, it was the GOPe who gave us Ross Perot by giving us Bush the elder.

And, it wasn't Perot's fault Bush lost, either. It was Bush's and the GOPe's fault.

I thought obama would be a disaster and he has been, but the cool thing is, now most everyone else sees it too!

And, the progressives get the blame! Finally!!! All because, obama got greedy and pushed the limit, which outed them by waking us up!

The GOPe would have kept things on the down low, going to the same place obama is taking us, but slowly moving forward, nice and progressive, spoonful, by spoonful.

Insanity is voting for that lesser evil over and over thinking it's better. I just couldn't see that before McCain; now it's all I see.

90 posted on 04/22/2012 4:51:16 PM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: SunTzuWu
In a two part balancing equation, failure to add to one side (not voting) increases the imbalance between the two sides. It is the same as adding one to the other side.

Except that it isn't and never has been a 'two part balancing equation'. There is ALWAYS a null vote - Hell, something like half the country doesn't vote and never will. So it is at least a three part system by it's very nature (more than that with 3rd parties).

Is it your contention that every democrat that stays home is a vote for the republican? What about the independents? what if they stay home? who does their null vote automatically rack up for/against? Give the Christian Right something to vote for and their ranks can easily double, from 30m guaranteed to somewhere north of 60m... Obviously those are null votes becoming active and adding into the equation and not votes taken away from the 'other side'.

Your entire premise is without merit, and works against the will of the founders. Your vote is supposed to be a conscious choice *for* what best matches your beliefs... So quite logically, your vote *for* Romney is the same thing as a vote for Obama (because they both stand for liberalism/communism/globalism), and is a vote against Conservatism. There is the truth of it.

91 posted on 04/22/2012 5:15:05 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SunTzuWu

I agree.


92 posted on 04/22/2012 5:17:37 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

There is no “not voting” Ozero get 1/2 a vote if you stay home. So, spare me the I am better by staying home.


93 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:03 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

There is no “not voting” Ozero get 1/2 a vote if you stay home. So, spare me the I am better by staying home.


94 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:15 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SunTzuWu

IF the republicans win control of the senate and maintain control of the house we can control Obama. Newt accomplished wonders as Speaker of the House against a liberal president. We don’t need Romney but we do need to send the RNC a message.


95 posted on 04/22/2012 5:23:14 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
It was less than FOUR years ago when Romney ran for president. He lost. He lost to a man that is more conservative than he is and that is not saying much. McCain is a rino too. In 1994 Romney ran for Senator in Mass and lost. He served ONE term as governor. He announced, "I am not a partisan republican but a MODERATE with PROGRESSIVE views." He will NOT win the presidency. He has struggled and had to spend mega millions to win the primaries and his favorablity rating is still LOW. Palin is a leader of the new conservative movement. We sent the establishment a clear message during the 2010 "interim" elections and it rattled the likes of Rove and the DC insiders. The movement and fight is on going.
96 posted on 04/22/2012 6:10:53 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

Is it wrong that I’m suddenly rooting for a bimbo erruption for Romney?


97 posted on 04/22/2012 6:13:28 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Theodore R.

Right ON Eternal Vigilance! “Romney’s Spotty Record on Judicial Appointments - 9 GOP Judges out of 36
Why Not Romney ^ | 3/22/2011 | Right Wingnut

Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:54:29 PM by Right Wingnut 2

On multiple occasions, Mitt Romney has expressed concern about the threat of activist judges. Not knowing much about his record on judicial appointments, I decided to a little digging. I was surprised to find that out of 36 judicial appointments (2003-2005), only 9 were Republicans. In fact, he appointed more Democrats than Republicans. How do these activist judges advance through the court system? Mitt Romney certainly knows the answer to that question.

From Boston.com:

“Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.”

(Excerpt) Read more at whynotromney.blogspot.com ...


98 posted on 04/22/2012 6:18:01 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: roamer_1
"Impress upon children the truth that the exercise of the elective franchise is a social duty of as solemn a nature as man can be called to perform; that a man may not innocently trifle with his vote; that every elector is a trustee as well for others as himself and that every measure he supports has an important bearing on the interests of others as well as on his own. "

-- Daniel Webster


99 posted on 04/22/2012 6:25:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: aruanan; ScottinVA; SunTzuWu
"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying.

Why would he be saying that? He buys into republican campaigns all the time, and YOU are electing them...

You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party.

The Republican party has ALWAYS had it's liberal wing (Romney), and the Baker wing moderates (Dole, Bush, BushII, McCain) aren't much different... and thier financial backing mirrors the democrats in many ways.

They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

WHAT opposition? the reason liberalism has been able to become rampant is because of the LACK of opposition.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Bullcrap. I am not advocating *not* voting for republicans - I am advocating voting *FOR* Conservatives. To the extent that ANY Republican is a Conservative (by his record, not his election year promises), that Republican will have my vote. But where there is no Conservative Republican, I will gladly look elsewhere for a Conservative to vote for. In this year, as with the last two election cycles, Republican presidential candidates are decidedly *not* Conservative, and I have and will vote elsewhere - I haven't investigated Virgil Goode to my satisfaction, but right now, he looks way better than anything else out there.

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.

Again the point is self evident - There is no main opposition, and your argument falls flat right there.

And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant [...]

No doubt Jesus will totally understand withholding my vote from one who stands for abortion, homo rights, and etc... "What hath light to do with darkness?" Here's a note of advice: trying to wrap yourself in the Bible while supporting a candidacy such as this will not get you very far with Christian Patriots.

[...] for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Again, there is no conserving and preserving going on - It's a shell game, a hat trick... And you have bought into it lock, stock, and barrel.

Conservatives operate on principle, not expediency, and certainly not fear. And it has ever been the case that Conservatives WILL NOT BE MOVED from those 'first things' which cannot be sacrificed. It astounds me that Republicans such as yourself would be surprised every_single_time by their recalcitrance in the face of a candidate which unquestionably does not support those self-same 'first things', and Romney even more so, as he stands completely opposed to ALL of them.

As it stands, fully 60% of conservatives now reside outside of the Republican Party. You ain't gonna get them back by trying to drive them to a trough they will not drink from. So your diatribe is falling upon deaf ears at best... But if others are like me, it only confirms my decision for me and drives me further away. Perhaps you would like it better over at GOP.com.

100 posted on 04/22/2012 6:27:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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