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To: ScottinVA; SunTzuWu; roamer_1
Ditto here. I`m not voting for a homo marriage-backing, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing, health care system usurper like Romney.

I`ve had it with RINOs and their “you-need-to-support-me- because-the-other-guy-is-worse” routine. All the GOP gives in routine is a continual lurch leftward. Look, the GOP-e despises the Tea Party movement as little beyond a “necessary evil” that is to be tolerated at best and disdained at worst.


"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying. You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party. They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Doofuses: we don't live in a parliamentary system where representation is divided proportionally between the losers!

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.
"Hey, I don't like these liberal bumper stickers on this fully functioning vehicle or the places its driver is taking us, right? So, I've got, like, this great plan to deal with that, 'kay? Instead of tossing the driver out on his butt and getting some more appropriate body detailing and then driving it wherever we want to go, we're going to get out at the next corner, wag our fingers really hard at the driver as he speeds off, and then from scratch build our own new most perfectly conservative vehicle and, someday, maybe, enter that into the race! And won't that glorious day be, oh, so grand?"
And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Dream on.
87 posted on 04/22/2012 4:27:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; ScottinVA; SunTzuWu
"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying.

Why would he be saying that? He buys into republican campaigns all the time, and YOU are electing them...

You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party.

The Republican party has ALWAYS had it's liberal wing (Romney), and the Baker wing moderates (Dole, Bush, BushII, McCain) aren't much different... and thier financial backing mirrors the democrats in many ways.

They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

WHAT opposition? the reason liberalism has been able to become rampant is because of the LACK of opposition.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Bullcrap. I am not advocating *not* voting for republicans - I am advocating voting *FOR* Conservatives. To the extent that ANY Republican is a Conservative (by his record, not his election year promises), that Republican will have my vote. But where there is no Conservative Republican, I will gladly look elsewhere for a Conservative to vote for. In this year, as with the last two election cycles, Republican presidential candidates are decidedly *not* Conservative, and I have and will vote elsewhere - I haven't investigated Virgil Goode to my satisfaction, but right now, he looks way better than anything else out there.

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.

Again the point is self evident - There is no main opposition, and your argument falls flat right there.

And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant [...]

No doubt Jesus will totally understand withholding my vote from one who stands for abortion, homo rights, and etc... "What hath light to do with darkness?" Here's a note of advice: trying to wrap yourself in the Bible while supporting a candidacy such as this will not get you very far with Christian Patriots.

[...] for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Again, there is no conserving and preserving going on - It's a shell game, a hat trick... And you have bought into it lock, stock, and barrel.

Conservatives operate on principle, not expediency, and certainly not fear. And it has ever been the case that Conservatives WILL NOT BE MOVED from those 'first things' which cannot be sacrificed. It astounds me that Republicans such as yourself would be surprised every_single_time by their recalcitrance in the face of a candidate which unquestionably does not support those self-same 'first things', and Romney even more so, as he stands completely opposed to ALL of them.

As it stands, fully 60% of conservatives now reside outside of the Republican Party. You ain't gonna get them back by trying to drive them to a trough they will not drink from. So your diatribe is falling upon deaf ears at best... But if others are like me, it only confirms my decision for me and drives me further away. Perhaps you would like it better over at GOP.com.

100 posted on 04/22/2012 6:27:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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