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Why Romney Can't Win
NOPC Network ^ | 4/13/2012 | Steve TMFO Elmore

Posted on 04/22/2012 10:08:57 AM PDT by katiedidit1

I'm backing Newt and hoping for a brokered convention, where Romney's lead in the polls will mean NOTHING. The remaining candidates plead their cases to the convention, and as we've seen, Newt SLAUGHTERS everyone in a debate. And it's more than that. I've never been a big fan of Newt's, but he's done one thing better than anyone else; he ATTACKS AND THE ATTACKS STICK. And when the opposition attacks, he blocks the shot and unloads even harder.

THAT is what it's going to take to beat Obama. Anything less, and we can kiss our country and our asses goodbye.

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To: gusty
Now that is what I call brass ones. A person who dares to question others conservative credentials, but is solidly behind the far Left policy of no free trade.

Yup, you and Karl Marx. both Free Traders.

But, generally speaking, the Protective system in these days is conservative, while the Free Trade system works destructively. It breaks up old nationalities and carries antagonism of proletariat and bourgeoisie to the uttermost point. In a word, the Free Trade system hastens the Social Revolution. In this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, I am in favor of Free Trade.

           -- Karl Marx

51 posted on 04/22/2012 1:24:38 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Unlike women, we conservatives are not creatures prone to violence when we do not get our way, therefore; since we are the workers, the producers, the creators of things of real value and worth to humanity AND to the parasites, simply stop producing anything. Take a sabbatical during these times of taxing and stealing and defrauding by the system, and things will be set aright. Don’t cooperate. Don’t produce anything for them to take a cut of, and they will back off. No violence, no problem. Except all the producers have to agree to stop supporting the ne’er-do-wells and parasites for this to work. What do you think?

I think it worked great in the book, but without a John Galt to actually take a lead and marshall forces I don't see it doing much for us in my lifetime. We don't have a John Galt willing to take a lead. In fact nobody worth a crap even wants to be our President. Everyone with a message worth getting behind and fighting for and who has the ability to execute has some reason or other that they just don't want the job. They probably know or think they know that not enough citizens would have their back. Not sure how we turn something like this around.

52 posted on 04/22/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: ngat
Sorry I addressed this to the wrong person

Unlike women, we conservatives are not creatures prone to violence when we do not get our way, therefore; since we are the workers, the producers, the creators of things of real value and worth to humanity AND to the parasites, simply stop producing anything. Take a sabbatical during these times of taxing and stealing and defrauding by the system, and things will be set aright. Don’t cooperate. Don’t produce anything for them to take a cut of, and they will back off. No violence, no problem. Except all the producers have to agree to stop supporting the ne’er-do-wells and parasites for this to work. What do you think?

I think it worked great in the book, but without a John Galt to actually take a lead and marshall forces I don't see it doing much for us in my lifetime. We don't have a John Galt willing to take a lead. In fact nobody worth a crap even wants to be our President. Everyone with a message worth getting behind and fighting for and who has the ability to execute has some reason or other that they just don't want the job. They probably know or think they know that not enough citizens would have their back. Not sure how we turn something like this around.

53 posted on 04/22/2012 1:34:24 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: ngat
I’m sure you consider yourself a conservative, but are you a conservative with battered womans’s syndrome?

If Obama is reelected, he'll complete his mission of turning the US into a larger version of Greece, ruled by his black racist marxist thugocracy.

If you like what he's been up to over the past three years, by all means help him get reelected. Stay home, write in Sarah Palin (though she doesn't want your vote, or she'd be running herself) or vote third party. Obama will then be empowered to return to his goal of methodically destroying our country. He'll strip away more of your rights while destroying the economy, weakening defense, colluding with the Russians, supporting anti-American upstart movements throughout the world, adding more Kagan's to the SC, issuing executive orders to destroy business and annihilating the middle class.

I would say screw the GOP, except that when you have a deliberate saboteur at the national helm, parties and payback seem kind of irrelevant.

54 posted on 04/22/2012 1:51:15 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ngat
Unlike women, we conservatives are not creatures prone to violence when we do not get our way ...

????????????????????

Wrong in so many ways ...

55 posted on 04/22/2012 1:56:27 PM PDT by x
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To: SunTzuWu

Mitt didn’t think Obama was bad for the country, the attacks on Sarah began with his campaign staff. He was willing to let Obama win so he could run in 4 years. His statement that his sons are serving their country by campaigning for him shows his utter disrespect for the military.


56 posted on 04/22/2012 2:07:37 PM PDT by brightright
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To: Theodore R.
“The Supreme Court” will be whispered in your ears.

When they whisper that I shout back, "Name ONE conservative Romney put on the court in Massachusetts!"

They stop whispering.

57 posted on 04/22/2012 2:16:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: SunTzuWu
...when the choice comes down to Mitt or Zero, there is no way I'm going to do anything that helps Zero have a second term. Even if that means voting for Mitt.

Mitt is closer to Obama in ideology than he is to you and I, yet you speak of voting for him in November as if that's a pro-survival choice. The man is an establishment liberal Democrat, but you'll vote for him because he's fooled you by wearing a Republican name tag.

How can someone with the name of Sun Tzu in their handle fail to see the suicidal dynamics involved here?

You're much better off facing an overt, avowed enemy, than allowing a traitor wearing false colors inside your gates.

58 posted on 04/22/2012 2:20:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: katiedidit1

With all due respect, the meme of this thread would be a tad bit more persuasive, had not Romney demolished every single GOP challenger for the last four years.

(and I say that not at a Mitten, but a sincere, dedicated Palinbot)

For all the qualifications Palin has still, Romney has pretty much defeated her at every turn.

Not honorable, that. But formidable, yes.

Romney is that important single thing: formidable.

A winner.


59 posted on 04/22/2012 2:24:52 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: gusty

China becomes more fascist by the day.

You are for fascism?


60 posted on 04/22/2012 2:29:05 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"People say that Mitt Romney is a flip-flopper. I think that’s very unjust. I think he’s been a very consistent politician. He consistently works both sides of the street on the same issue. He is consistently cynical and expedient and self-serving."

- C. J. Doyle, President of Catholic Action League of Massachusetts


61 posted on 04/22/2012 2:31:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

He couldn’t beat McCain.


62 posted on 04/22/2012 2:35:37 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: EternalVigilance

Blah.

Blah.

So how come, he’s got no real opponents then?

This poster would really, really like to see Romney clobbered for the ruthless, self-centered egotistical CREEP he is.

But I don’t see it happening. So unless and until someone with actual b@lls stands up to him, he seems the most powerful champion for our side.

So be it.

DEFEAT OBAMA. Nothing less, nothing more.

America first 2012.


63 posted on 04/22/2012 2:35:37 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: EternalVigilance
You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can’t be both. Pick one.

The entire truth of this argument, distilled down into just eighteen words. Brilliant.

64 posted on 04/22/2012 2:35:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

So who do you support in November?

Or did you not think ‘brilliantly’ about that part?

Pick a lane.


65 posted on 04/22/2012 2:38:00 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So how come, he’s got no real opponents then?

Well, the simple reason he hasn't had real opposition so far is that the Republican Party intentionally crushes any sort of principled conservative leadership, or even any close facsimile thereof.

Of course, the real campaign hasn't even started yet.

66 posted on 04/22/2012 2:46:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
he seems the most powerful champion for our side.

Maybe your side, but not mine.

67 posted on 04/22/2012 2:50:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: brightright
His statement that his sons are serving their country by campaigning for him shows his utter disrespect for the military.

Yes, I recall Mitt saying that. Yet, we're surrounded by so-called conservatives who insist that we vote for this spineless, vacuous, liberal quisling.

They don't seem to get that what they're really doing, is giving the Republican establishment permission to move the party even further to the left. By 2020, they'll be running avowed Communists and telling us it's for the good of the country.

68 posted on 04/22/2012 2:51:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
For all the qualifications Palin has still, Romney has pretty much defeated her at every turn.

How can you say that, when she never came out to fight him? If she'd run in the primary, and Romney were still in the lead at this point, then I'd agree with you.

69 posted on 04/22/2012 2:55:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
...he seems the most powerful champion for our side.

"Our" side? What makes you think that Romney's on our side?

70 posted on 04/22/2012 2:57:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So who do you support in November? Or did you not think ‘brilliantly’ about that part? Pick a lane.

I'll take door number three. The same one the Framers took. The other two may be marked differently, but they lead to the same place.

71 posted on 04/22/2012 3:01:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: roamer_1

#46 - Excellent post! In a race between a candidate that supports tariffs and one that supports gays and abortion, I’ll gladly suffer the former’s “vice”.


72 posted on 04/22/2012 3:04:46 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: SunTzuWu; All

in November, when the choice comes down to Mitt or Zero, there is no way I’m going to do anything that helps Zero have a second term. Even if that means voting for Mitt.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Hot damn!!! Someone on here who realizes that this great Republic cannot stand 4 more years of B. Hussein Obama. I will not be voting for Mitt so much as I will just be voting against Obama. And I’ll do that by voting for someone who actually has a chance to defeat Obama and send his sorry ass back to Chicago; not by voting for Herman Humperdink on the “Dawn’s Early Light” Party.


73 posted on 04/22/2012 3:05:11 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: katiedidit1; All

WOW!!! This article is published by the NOPC Network. If all 14 people who read NOPC publications vote for Newt, he’ll probably end up with the nomination.

Do I need the sarcasm tag?


74 posted on 04/22/2012 3:09:49 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: ngat
What do you think about that, Sun?

I know math.

...staying home and not voting is the mathematical equivalent to voting for Zero and I won't do that.

75 posted on 04/22/2012 3:19:53 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: napscoordinator; HANG THE EXPENSE

See post #75.


76 posted on 04/22/2012 3:22:54 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: LomanBill
Even if Zero and Mitt weigh exactly the same on your scale, Zero has nothing to restrain him in a second term. Mitt would at least be looking out for his political future. I can not believe that you think the damage each would do is equal.

It's like the difference between Clinton and Zero. Clinton was a criminal out for himself. Zero is a true believer doing it for the cause.

If Zero wins again. Game Over!

77 posted on 04/22/2012 3:28:22 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Windflier

See post #75.


78 posted on 04/22/2012 3:31:40 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Sirius Lee
In a race between a candidate that supports tariffs and one that supports gays and abortion, I’ll gladly suffer the former’s “vice”.

I cannot imagine the blindness and fear that would overlook Romney's absolute faults and allow a vote for him. I can see where folks have hitched their wagons to Gingrich (though he is not Conservative enough by half), but Romney does not have a single attribute to attract a conservative *at all*.

79 posted on 04/22/2012 3:47:28 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SunTzuWu
...staying home and not voting is the mathematical equivalent to voting for Zero and I won't do that.

Oh, Horse crap!

I know math.

According to your statement above: no, you don't. A null vote is not the same as a vote *for* Obama. it is null. It has no potential.

And anyway, why stay home when there is a Conservative choice (and pssst! that ain't Romney)?

80 posted on 04/22/2012 3:53:08 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SunTzuWu
I'll say it again. You're much better off facing an overt, avowed enemy outside your gates, than allowing a traitor wearing false colors inside.

Have you actually read Sun Tzu?

81 posted on 04/22/2012 4:00:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SunTzuWu

Since recovering from liberalism after college, I have always followed the Buckley rule.

My brother, who does not, is still kicking himself for having voted for Ross Perot, who gave us eight years of a filthy pig in the White House, another filthy NY Senator, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Steven Breyer.

I will vote “not Obama” realistically, and with my eye on the Supreme Court.


82 posted on 04/22/2012 4:03:27 PM PDT by NYpeanut (ABBO)
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To: SunTzuWu

Why are you so afraid?

The guy will be totally ineffective if he gets four more years. We survived the first four, we can get through four more if we have to just fine!

C’mon, stop falling for the progressive’s propoganda!


83 posted on 04/22/2012 4:09:59 PM PDT by ngat
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To: NYpeanut

Dude, the Buckley rule has brought us nothing but continuous advancement of the progressive agenda.

Wake up.

And stop buying the progressive lie that it was the most conservative guy in the 1992 race, Ross Perot, that caused Clinton.

Ross Perot is not the reason the people tossed Bush the Elder out of office. In fact, poll after poll after poll sfter political analysis after analysis of that campaign shows Clinton winning with or without Perot in the race. We have nobody to blame but ourselves.


84 posted on 04/22/2012 4:18:35 PM PDT by ngat
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To: roamer_1
A null vote is not the same as a vote *for* Obama. it is null. It has no potential.

Sorry my FRiend but you are wrong. In a two part balancing equation, failure to add to one side (not voting) increases the imbalance between the two sides. It is the same as adding one to the other side.

85 posted on 04/22/2012 4:18:45 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Windflier
Have you actually read Sun Tzu?

Read it? I wrote it...

86 posted on 04/22/2012 4:20:08 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: ScottinVA; SunTzuWu; roamer_1
Ditto here. I`m not voting for a homo marriage-backing, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing, health care system usurper like Romney.

I`ve had it with RINOs and their “you-need-to-support-me- because-the-other-guy-is-worse” routine. All the GOP gives in routine is a continual lurch leftward. Look, the GOP-e despises the Tea Party movement as little beyond a “necessary evil” that is to be tolerated at best and disdained at worst.


"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying. You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party. They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Doofuses: we don't live in a parliamentary system where representation is divided proportionally between the losers!

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.
"Hey, I don't like these liberal bumper stickers on this fully functioning vehicle or the places its driver is taking us, right? So, I've got, like, this great plan to deal with that, 'kay? Instead of tossing the driver out on his butt and getting some more appropriate body detailing and then driving it wherever we want to go, we're going to get out at the next corner, wag our fingers really hard at the driver as he speeds off, and then from scratch build our own new most perfectly conservative vehicle and, someday, maybe, enter that into the race! And won't that glorious day be, oh, so grand?"
And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Dream on.
87 posted on 04/22/2012 4:27:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ScottinVA; SunTzuWu; roamer_1
Ditto here. I`m not voting for a homo marriage-backing, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing, health care system usurper like Romney.

"No, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to use my vote to make sure Obama stays in power and is able to finish what he started. Yeah, that's the moral thing to do."
88 posted on 04/22/2012 4:29:36 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Stars&StripesNE

If Obama is reelected, blame the damned GOP for consistantly producing an inferior product. They don’t deserve all the blame. A lot of idiots continue to line up to “buy” their garbage. Otherwise, they would have “gone out of business” a long time ago.

But what am I saying? Romney will surely win. You guys keep telling me how he’s so darned electable! Since he’s so darned electable, any vote from me would simply be redundant!


89 posted on 04/22/2012 4:32:18 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Windflier
Absolutely! No one has done more to wake us up to what both parties are doing than obama.

I've used up whatever blinded me to the rino insanity game when they ran McCain and now can't vote for rinos any longer, so I'm left with voting my conscience.

The GOPe keeps running their rinos and conservatives keep telling ourselves we MUST vote for their rino progressive to keep the demonrat progressive out of the WH. This works really well for them, so the GOPe keeps doing it. Why should they stop?

We just keep pulling the handle for their progressive rino, while telling ourselves that next time we'll vote for the one we really want, b/c next time it will be different, over and over again.

Why wait until next time to do the right thing, according to your conscience?

Who can say how it will go, but like you say:

You're much better off facing an overt, avowed enemy outside your gates, than allowing a traitor wearing false colors inside.

Remember, it was the GOPe who gave us Ross Perot by giving us Bush the elder.

And, it wasn't Perot's fault Bush lost, either. It was Bush's and the GOPe's fault.

I thought obama would be a disaster and he has been, but the cool thing is, now most everyone else sees it too!

And, the progressives get the blame! Finally!!! All because, obama got greedy and pushed the limit, which outed them by waking us up!

The GOPe would have kept things on the down low, going to the same place obama is taking us, but slowly moving forward, nice and progressive, spoonful, by spoonful.

Insanity is voting for that lesser evil over and over thinking it's better. I just couldn't see that before McCain; now it's all I see.

90 posted on 04/22/2012 4:51:16 PM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: SunTzuWu
In a two part balancing equation, failure to add to one side (not voting) increases the imbalance between the two sides. It is the same as adding one to the other side.

Except that it isn't and never has been a 'two part balancing equation'. There is ALWAYS a null vote - Hell, something like half the country doesn't vote and never will. So it is at least a three part system by it's very nature (more than that with 3rd parties).

Is it your contention that every democrat that stays home is a vote for the republican? What about the independents? what if they stay home? who does their null vote automatically rack up for/against? Give the Christian Right something to vote for and their ranks can easily double, from 30m guaranteed to somewhere north of 60m... Obviously those are null votes becoming active and adding into the equation and not votes taken away from the 'other side'.

Your entire premise is without merit, and works against the will of the founders. Your vote is supposed to be a conscious choice *for* what best matches your beliefs... So quite logically, your vote *for* Romney is the same thing as a vote for Obama (because they both stand for liberalism/communism/globalism), and is a vote against Conservatism. There is the truth of it.

91 posted on 04/22/2012 5:15:05 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SunTzuWu

I agree.


92 posted on 04/22/2012 5:17:37 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

There is no “not voting” Ozero get 1/2 a vote if you stay home. So, spare me the I am better by staying home.


93 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:03 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

There is no “not voting” Ozero get 1/2 a vote if you stay home. So, spare me the I am better by staying home.


94 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:15 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SunTzuWu

IF the republicans win control of the senate and maintain control of the house we can control Obama. Newt accomplished wonders as Speaker of the House against a liberal president. We don’t need Romney but we do need to send the RNC a message.


95 posted on 04/22/2012 5:23:14 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
It was less than FOUR years ago when Romney ran for president. He lost. He lost to a man that is more conservative than he is and that is not saying much. McCain is a rino too. In 1994 Romney ran for Senator in Mass and lost. He served ONE term as governor. He announced, "I am not a partisan republican but a MODERATE with PROGRESSIVE views." He will NOT win the presidency. He has struggled and had to spend mega millions to win the primaries and his favorablity rating is still LOW. Palin is a leader of the new conservative movement. We sent the establishment a clear message during the 2010 "interim" elections and it rattled the likes of Rove and the DC insiders. The movement and fight is on going.
96 posted on 04/22/2012 6:10:53 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

Is it wrong that I’m suddenly rooting for a bimbo erruption for Romney?


97 posted on 04/22/2012 6:13:28 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Theodore R.

Right ON Eternal Vigilance! “Romney’s Spotty Record on Judicial Appointments - 9 GOP Judges out of 36
Why Not Romney ^ | 3/22/2011 | Right Wingnut

Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:54:29 PM by Right Wingnut 2

On multiple occasions, Mitt Romney has expressed concern about the threat of activist judges. Not knowing much about his record on judicial appointments, I decided to a little digging. I was surprised to find that out of 36 judicial appointments (2003-2005), only 9 were Republicans. In fact, he appointed more Democrats than Republicans. How do these activist judges advance through the court system? Mitt Romney certainly knows the answer to that question.

From Boston.com:

“Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.”

(Excerpt) Read more at whynotromney.blogspot.com ...


98 posted on 04/22/2012 6:18:01 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: roamer_1
"Impress upon children the truth that the exercise of the elective franchise is a social duty of as solemn a nature as man can be called to perform; that a man may not innocently trifle with his vote; that every elector is a trustee as well for others as himself and that every measure he supports has an important bearing on the interests of others as well as on his own. "

-- Daniel Webster


99 posted on 04/22/2012 6:25:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: aruanan; ScottinVA; SunTzuWu
"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying.

Why would he be saying that? He buys into republican campaigns all the time, and YOU are electing them...

You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily working to take over the Republican Party.

The Republican party has ALWAYS had it's liberal wing (Romney), and the Baker wing moderates (Dole, Bush, BushII, McCain) aren't much different... and thier financial backing mirrors the democrats in many ways.

They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

WHAT opposition? the reason liberalism has been able to become rampant is because of the LACK of opposition.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Bullcrap. I am not advocating *not* voting for republicans - I am advocating voting *FOR* Conservatives. To the extent that ANY Republican is a Conservative (by his record, not his election year promises), that Republican will have my vote. But where there is no Conservative Republican, I will gladly look elsewhere for a Conservative to vote for. In this year, as with the last two election cycles, Republican presidential candidates are decidedly *not* Conservative, and I have and will vote elsewhere - I haven't investigated Virgil Goode to my satisfaction, but right now, he looks way better than anything else out there.

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.

Again the point is self evident - There is no main opposition, and your argument falls flat right there.

And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant [...]

No doubt Jesus will totally understand withholding my vote from one who stands for abortion, homo rights, and etc... "What hath light to do with darkness?" Here's a note of advice: trying to wrap yourself in the Bible while supporting a candidacy such as this will not get you very far with Christian Patriots.

[...] for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Again, there is no conserving and preserving going on - It's a shell game, a hat trick... And you have bought into it lock, stock, and barrel.

Conservatives operate on principle, not expediency, and certainly not fear. And it has ever been the case that Conservatives WILL NOT BE MOVED from those 'first things' which cannot be sacrificed. It astounds me that Republicans such as yourself would be surprised every_single_time by their recalcitrance in the face of a candidate which unquestionably does not support those self-same 'first things', and Romney even more so, as he stands completely opposed to ALL of them.

As it stands, fully 60% of conservatives now reside outside of the Republican Party. You ain't gonna get them back by trying to drive them to a trough they will not drink from. So your diatribe is falling upon deaf ears at best... But if others are like me, it only confirms my decision for me and drives me further away. Perhaps you would like it better over at GOP.com.

100 posted on 04/22/2012 6:27:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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