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Why we should regulate sugar like alcohol
CNN ^ | February 1, 2012 | Laura Schmidt

Posted on 02/02/2012 7:02:33 AM PST by CharlesThe Hammer

I am a medical sociologist, which means I study the health of whole societies. I've spent more than 20 years studying the best possible ways to address alcohol problems in societies -- what works and what doesn't to protect people from harm.

I work as a professor in the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine and at the UCSF Clinical and Translational Science Institute. This allows me to connect with other scientists who come from very different backgrounds but who want to work together on big problems -- think of a Manhattan Project, only one focused on protecting health through the collaboration of scientists who study everything from tiny cells to entire societies.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foodnazis; foodpolice; healthcare; nannystate; nutrition; regulation; sugar; tyranny; waronsugar
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Translation: "I am an expert who knows more than you. I know more than all the generations who came before. I know so much that my anointed vision should determine what everyone can or cannot eat. You are unqualified to decide for yourself. When you think about how much our Cult of Experts knows, and how we solve BIG problems like being fat, think of Penn State, Global Warming, and their monumental manipulation of data for grant money."
1 posted on 02/02/2012 7:02:45 AM PST by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
medical sociologist

Sounds like a self-provided title.

2 posted on 02/02/2012 7:04:12 AM PST by wbill
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

I am tired of these food Nazis. It seems like everything that tastes good is bad for you. I’d rather die with a Big Mac on my breath than eating tofu knee deep in feces in an occupier tent!


3 posted on 02/02/2012 7:07:41 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

The comments that follow this are spooky. People just want to line up and be treated like sheep.

Well, I hoarded 12 years of 100 watt bulbs and I can just as easily hoard 12 years of sugar.


4 posted on 02/02/2012 7:08:20 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

GET OUT OF OUR LIVES ALREADY!!!


5 posted on 02/02/2012 7:08:27 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: wbill

Right, I’m a “political proctologist”...and business is booming! What other pseudo-professions can we invent?


6 posted on 02/02/2012 7:09:21 AM PST by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Great, soon we’ll have to go to a Sweeteasy for our sugar fix.


7 posted on 02/02/2012 7:09:26 AM PST by AU72
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Some conservatives want to subsidize sugar, and some liberals want to regulate it. Let’s get them together and create some sort of a government program. What could possibly go wrong?


8 posted on 02/02/2012 7:12:33 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Hey Laura. Go make me a sandwich. Then iron my shirt.


9 posted on 02/02/2012 7:14:50 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
I've spent more than 20 years studying the best possible ways to address alcohol problems in societies -- what works and what doesn't to protect people from harm.

You're an idiot.
Either promote outlawing the substance or get a real job.

10 posted on 02/02/2012 7:14:54 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
Ya know....people are living longer....but most of them are incapacitated in some way and miserable.

My friends father just died at age 93. 15 years of alzheimers and diabetes and all the time in a hospital/nursing home.

You really think regulating sugar would have helped??

Just go away!!! Stop being stupid.

11 posted on 02/02/2012 7:16:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

I am pro-choice on sugar. It should be safe and legal. No more back-alley sugar buys.


12 posted on 02/02/2012 7:16:37 AM PST by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: wbill

Just another college professor with no marketable skills, who validates herself by denying other people the right to make choices of which she disapproves.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 7:17:50 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Don't you just love Liberal hypocrisy?


14 posted on 02/02/2012 7:18:36 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: grobdriver

I heard this about regulating sugar on the radio, yesterday. All I could think of was, yeah, legalize drugs and regulate sugar.


15 posted on 02/02/2012 7:19:17 AM PST by Eva
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To: AU72
• With apologies to Robert Michum.

Now let me tell a story, I’ll tell it from the top
About a mountain boy that ran illegal soda pop
Coca Cola made the tonic and Junior drove the load
And when his engine roared they called the highway Thunder Road

Sometimes into Worcester Sometimes Old Beantown
The revenuers chased him but they couldn’t run him down
Just when they thought they had him their Prius would explode
And he’d cruise by while they were standing still on Thunder Road

And there was thunder thunder on that Thunder Road
Thunder was his engine Jolt Cola was his load
There was Pepsi Pepsi to quench the devil’s thirst
The people swore they had rights but the Gub’ment took them first
[ guitar ]

Blazin’ right through Sturbridge on down the ol’ Mass Pike
It was just outside of Auburn where they made that fatal strike
They taxed him to death at ninety that’s all there is to tell
The devil sent the Marxists and they took us straight to hell

16 posted on 02/02/2012 7:19:39 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer





I expect enthusiastic police support for monitoring and confiscating objectionable materials.
17 posted on 02/02/2012 7:21:21 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
Laura Schmidt certainly thinks a lot of herself.

I can't understand why.

18 posted on 02/02/2012 7:22:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Eva

Right. It’s the same people who think nothing of poking holes in their body and getting tattoos or piercings. But don’t wave that scary cookie at them!


19 posted on 02/02/2012 7:23:55 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I went on the Prism diet in 1997 and lost 55 lbs in a few months. I learned that diet is more harmful to americans than cigarettes. That said, I am a conservative:

A conservative thinks too much sugar in his diet is bad, so he avoids sugar.

A liberal thinks too much sugar in his diet is bad, so he tries to pass a law making it illegal to eat too much sugar.

I abhor the liberal mindset.


20 posted on 02/02/2012 7:25:47 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: wbill
self-provided title and self-annointed arbiter of your life - " Major risk factors in chronic disease, of course, are alcohol, tobacco and junk food consumption. "

bad science at its best

21 posted on 02/02/2012 7:27:46 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
I am a medical sociologist

I study the health of whole societies

I've spent more than 20 years studying the best possible ways to address alcohol problems in societies

I work as a professor in the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine and at the UCSF Clinical and Translational Science Institute

You should have taken a course on Narcissistic Personality Disorder while you were at UCSF, you insufferable nag.

22 posted on 02/02/2012 7:29:08 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

“I am a Stand Up Philosopher.” - Comicus


23 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:03 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
Laura Schmidt

Flat out GUILTY!

24 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: CharlesThe Hammer; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
........and at the UCSF Clinical and Translational Science Institute.

This is the same group of wannabees that have given us smoking bans, increased tobacco taxes and are working to have moving ratings include the use of tobacco products as one of the criteria.

25 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:08 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Come to think of it, this could be fun. Like when my grandmother made homemade beer during Prohibition.

I could clandestinely sell back-alley cookies and fudge. Hmmmm, mysterious goings-on at married21’s house... kids arriving at all hours of the afternoon, with a crazed, hungry look in their eyes, leaving with little baggies...


26 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:30 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

I remember reading once (sorry, couldn’t find the source) that the three developed nations that consume the most cane sugar were Switzerland, Israel, and Singapore. Intuitively, that makes sense.

Of course, those are the countries where people are keeling over at age 50...

No, that’s wrong. Those countries all have average lifespans of over 80.

If anyone has a source that can confirm or refute my memory, please post. Thanks.


27 posted on 02/02/2012 7:31:37 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
I am 100% against regulation. People are responsible for their own decisions.

Unlike the junk science that is "global warming" however, the science behind America's enormous rate of obesity is simple and believable: high-fructose corn syrup - cheap sugar - is now the second or third largest ingredient in most packaged foods.

Sugar makes you fat, and pretty much everything we eat has enormous amounts of sugar added to it.

If someone puts five packets of sugar in their coffee people say: "Hey, want some coffee with your sugar?"

But a 12oz can of Coke has 13 packets' worth of sugar in it, and most people drink the 20oz nowadays instead of the can. The 20oz has the equivalent of 21 packets of sugar.

It's painfully obvious what's going on - there's no need for laws, just common sense.

28 posted on 02/02/2012 7:35:57 AM PST by wideawake
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To: CharlesThe Hammer; wbill; Mr. K
wbill ~ medical sociologist
Sounds like a self-provided title.

CharlesThe Hammer ~ Right, I’m a “political proctologist”...and business is booming! What other pseudo-professions can we invent?

I know an "actual" scientist...

29 posted on 02/02/2012 7:39:35 AM PST by null and void (Day 1109 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Navy Patriot

Pretty much what you would expect a female liberal busybody to look like.


30 posted on 02/02/2012 7:40:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Our man in washington
the three developed nations that consume the most cane sugar were Switzerland, Israel, and Singapore. Intuitively, that makes sense.

Not sure why Israel and Singapore "make sense", although Switzerland does due to their chocolate industry.

However, the most recent figures I found indicated Brazil, Australia and Thailand as the largest consumers.

This makes much more sense: cane sugar is cheap and plentiful in Brazil and is in everything sweet there, in lieu of corn syrup.

Australians eat pretty much like Americans do, but they also use sugar instead of corn syrup as their prime sweetener.

Thailand's national coffee beverage is famous for its extreme sweetness, it is drunk there by everyone of every age and again, they use sugar instead of corn syrup.

Brazil and Thailand have a lower life expectancy than the US and Australia has a higher.

America is fourth in consumption in terms of sugar and first in corn syrup.

31 posted on 02/02/2012 7:48:43 AM PST by wideawake
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To: andy58-in-nh
From her bio:

Her research program broadly focuses on the social dimensions of health and illness, with an emphasis on the political and organizational contexts in which health care is provided. Substantively, she studies several areas of concern in health policy today. A major strand of her research agenda has focused on the health care market, including studies of for-profit health care and her upcoming book on organizational change in American health care since 1965, Building the Health Care Market, under contract with Princeton University Press.

You don't have to read the rest of this verbal diarrhea to understand her political nuance.

32 posted on 02/02/2012 7:51:43 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

I don’t need a mommy telling me to eat my vegetables and wash behind my ears.


33 posted on 02/02/2012 7:54:00 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: cuban leaf
A liberal thinks too much sugar in his diet is bad, so he tries to pass a law making it illegal to eat too much sugar.

Well said.

34 posted on 02/02/2012 7:55:01 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Thommas; cuban leaf

Liberalism in a nutshell:

someone poops their pants and we all have to wear diapers


35 posted on 02/02/2012 7:55:38 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

—Liberalism in a nutshell:

someone poops their pants and we all have to wear diapers—

I think I may like that one even better than mine. :-)


36 posted on 02/02/2012 7:57:28 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: wideawake
It's painfully obvious what's going on - there's no need for laws, just common sense

sure it is but no one pays attention to common sense, mostly because it's free.

Eating all that sugar would not be that bad if not for the fact that many people, including kids, live a more sedentary life now. I know kids that can't wait to get home from school or whatever to sit in front of a box to play video games. I sit in front in front of box all day, and spend at least two hours in a box to get to and from the box that I sit in front of all day.

Our "culture" (hate that word) now looks down upon physical labor and allows only sanction physical activities - I wonder what would happen if I'm ever found climbing a tree?

37 posted on 02/02/2012 7:57:30 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: MrB

If only pantie poopers wore diapers, it would single them out for ridicule.

That wouldn’t be fair to pantie poopers...


38 posted on 02/02/2012 8:01:00 AM PST by null and void (Day 1109 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: NativeSon
I wonder what would happen if I'm ever found climbing a tree?

5150...

39 posted on 02/02/2012 8:02:18 AM PST by null and void (Day 1109 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Eating to many refined carbohydrates causes as much damage as to much sugar. Is she going to ban bread also?


40 posted on 02/02/2012 8:03:19 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Isn’t it great that we gave the federal government the power to regulation what we eat, drink and smoke. Now the feds can save us from evil sugar. Yea! /s


41 posted on 02/02/2012 8:04:04 AM PST by jpsb
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To: null and void

Lefties may justify their position on the diaper requirement in that way,

but it’s more about their own inflated sense of “knowbetterism”.


42 posted on 02/02/2012 8:05:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer; All
Laura's idea is at least as good as having the government take DDT out of the environment or put MTBE into it.

Perhaps she can beat those records.

43 posted on 02/02/2012 8:08:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

We should regulate the press to prevent such moronic articles.


44 posted on 02/02/2012 8:09:40 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: desertfreedom765
Is she going to ban bread also?

You need to ask?

45 posted on 02/02/2012 8:10:20 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
Notes about Laura A. Schmidt, PhD, MSW (Masters in Social Work), MPH (Masters in Public Health). 1) She is an "Associate Professor in Residence", which means that she is non-tenured, nor does she have a permanent teaching or research seat at the university. She is a guest, paid for by someone else. 2) She is at the Institute for Health Policy Studies and the Department of Anthropology, History and Social Medicine. This is a convoluted blend to could be called the "Social Engineering Department." 3) Her organization has recommended using taxation, controlling access to sugary products and tightening licensing requirements to sell sweet snacks and drinks in schools and workplaces. Dr. Laura Schmidt said "We're not talking prohibition. We're not advocating a major imposition of the government into people's lives. We're talking about gentle ways to make sugar consumption slightly less convenient, thereby moving people away from the concentrated dose. What we want is to actually increase people's choices by making foods that aren't loaded with sugar comparatively easier and cheaper to get." As far as Dr. Robert Lustig goes, he has long been a major opponent to sugar, however, he tends to use outdated information from less comprehensive studies. Some of the criticism: "While Lustig correctly points out that the nation’s overall caloric consumption has increased, he proceeds to blame carbohydrates as being the primary constituent... (using) data spanning from 1989-1995 on children aged 2-17... "(However) data from the USDA Economic Research Service (ERS), which tracked the percent of total daily calories of the range of food groups from 1970-2007, it appears that the rise in obesity is due in large part to an increase in caloric intake in general, rather than an increase in added sugars in particular." "According to the research, it’s (also) possible that over the last couple of decades, we’ve become more sedentary." "It’s also safe to say that all this finger-pointing at carbohydrate is just as silly as the finger-pointing toward fat in the '80′s. Lustig takes the scapegoating of carbohydrate up a notch by singling out fructose. Perhaps the most passionate point he makes throughout the lecture is that fructose is a poison... The answer is not an absolute yes or no; the evilness of fructose depends completely on dosage and context. A recurrent error in Lustig's lecture is his omission of specifying the dosage and context of his claims."
46 posted on 02/02/2012 8:16:36 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Navy Patriot
Laura's idea is at least as good as having the government take DDT out of the environment or put MTBE into it.

Perhaps she can beat those records.

Touché!

47 posted on 02/02/2012 8:21:51 AM PST by null and void (Day 1109 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

“I study the health of whole societies.”

Says it all right there: She can’t think or write clearly, nor think in terms of human freedom.

I suppose she means the health of the individuals in entire societies, which is much different from what she said.

Either way, neither the health of the individuals, nor the “health” - i.e. proper functioning - of entire societies is enhanced by totalitarian tyranny.

A classic fool, in her element at her current location and position.


48 posted on 02/02/2012 8:27:17 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
You've obviously been bought by "Big Sugar."

[Dear God, please don't tell me I need to add a sarcasm tag!]

49 posted on 02/02/2012 8:33:45 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: wideawake

It was only within the last year or so that I discovered that high fructose corn syrup plays havoc with my system. I usually avoid it, but yesterday was my birthday, so I had ice cream and cake last night, even though a little voice was telling me I would be sorry.

Result: Restless night. Two hours of sleep followed by 5 hours of wakefulness. Followed by GI distress.

HFCS is horrible stuff. But, as you said, we need to exercise common sense and personal responsibility.

And if people stop buying products that contain HFCS, market forces will make that junk disappear,


50 posted on 02/02/2012 8:33:45 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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