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Constitutional Work Around: New Jersey Legislators Move To Ban Ammunition
SHTF Plan ^ | 1-30-2012 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 01/30/2012 1:45:21 PM PST by blam

Constitutional Work Around: New Jersey Legislators Move To Ban Ammunition

Mac Slavo
January 30th, 2012

While the second amendment protects our right to bear arms, some anti-gun advocates think they may have found a loophole. This afternoon the New Jersey Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee is set to consider two bills (Assembly Bill 588 and Assembly Bill 1013) that would essentially ban all handgun ammunition in the state, as well as some (or potentially all) rifle ammunition.

Sponsored by Assemblyman L. Grace Spencer (D-29), A588 is cleverly disguised as police safety legislation aimed at armor piercing ammunition (which is already prohibited under federal and state law). The measure actually opens the door to a sweeping ammunition ban by an unelected public official by executive fiat.
Common hunting, target, and self-defense ammunition would be subject to ban, along with BB’s, airgun pellets, and non-metallic ammunition like plastic airsoft pellets, if the Attorney General decides that they pose a threat to the safety and well being of law enforcement.

Although the bill only mentions handgun ammunition, it is in fact not limited to handgun ammunition, and would apply to all rifle ammunition for which a handgun is ever made. As an increasing number of gun manufacturers make handgun models that shoot rifle caliber ammunition, the line between “handgun” vs. “rifle” ammunition has become blurred, and the New Jersey State Police have already begun treating rifle ammunition in this category as if it were handgun ammunition for regulatory purposes. As long as a handgun exists that shoots a particular caliber of rifle ammunition, New Jersey treats that ammunition as if it were handgun ammunition.

Source: NRA Institute For Legislative Action

As Aaron Dykes of Infowars points out, the bills themselves would not outlaw the ammunition, but they “would enable the state’s Attorney General to instate a de facto restriction of the Second Amendment via executive fiat.”

In essence, if the Attorney General determines that a particular type of ammunition poses a threat to the police or government officials, that ammunition could be completely banned under this new legislation.

The goal, of course, is to render the Second Amendment impotent – the ultimate endgame of those who would brink the darkness of tyranny over our great nation.

By all accounts, as SGT Report highlights in their latest micro-documentary (available below), the government has rebelled against the people, and they are working feverishly to eliminate, one by one, each of the Constitutional protections that have ensured the peoples’ right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for over two centuries.

I want to make the case that there has been a rebellion.

This government has rebelled against the Constitution and against the citizens of the United States. The invasion of the public safety has been made by the representatives of the people.

the public safety could not be more at risk now, that the NDAA containing S1867, is law. The signing of NDAA was the crossing of the Rubicon. The government has now pushed farther than could have been imagined even 12 or 18 short months ago.

I have long believed that the final straw will come when this government attempts to ban guns or ammunition, or declare a confiscation of precious metals.

They will keep pushing, as all tyrants do, until the people push back. This latest transgression of our freedoms may be limited to a single state, but if approved, would open the door to similar bans across the entire country.

As Alex Jones warns in a recent update, those who would make us slaves and strip us of our natural rights are doing so at an accelerated rate.

It’s really simple. We’re getting down to the wire here. Tyranny is out in the open. The destruction of our basic liberties, the overthrow of our republic and basic protections, and basic checks and balances, is in overdrive right now.

Four years ago, had someone told you that the government would take over major financial institutions, manufacturers, and insurance companies, or that they would legislate universal health mandates or indefinite detention of American citizens without trial, or that they would grope your children at public venues and transportation hubs, would you have believed them?

Most Americans would have balked at the very thought of such things.

Yet here we are. And the scary thing? They’re not finished yet. They won’t be; not until the Constitution of the United States is relegated to nothing more than a historical text in some museum rather than what it was meant to be – the fundamental law of the land.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bloodoftyrants; constitution; corruption; cwii; democrats; donttreadonme; govtabuse; guns; liberalfascism; liberals; lping; newjersey; progressives; tyranny; waronliberty; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: neverdem; blam

>> Source: NRA Institute For Legislative Action

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21 posted on 01/30/2012 2:13:19 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: 92nina

That was funny. Ever see his 10 minute youtube on racism?


22 posted on 01/30/2012 2:14:32 PM PST by houeto
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To: wac3rd

Sorry, “From the esteemed Lefty gun-grabber”


23 posted on 01/30/2012 2:15:22 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: blam
Constitutional work-around? I wonder what would happen to tax receipts if the citizens of the state would start requiring the state to comply with Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution...

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility

24 posted on 01/30/2012 2:23:53 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: blam

Wow, what a bunch of psychotics...

They need some medical attention for their obsessive-compulsive disorder, it sounds like.


25 posted on 01/30/2012 2:40:55 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: FrankR
I can see their new car tags...instead of "The Garden State", it will be "The UNArmed State"...(criminals welcome).

Two things:

1 - The State would be very well armed; it's the law-abiding People who would be unarmed.

2 - The criminals don't need to be welcomed into New Jersey; they already run the place.

26 posted on 01/30/2012 2:42:57 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: jakota
It’s becoming very stylish to be a scofflaw!!

“when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns” Guess which side I will chose? (hint: my Tagline.)

27 posted on 01/30/2012 2:43:17 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

What is the position of that great “conservative” Governor Christie on this issue?


28 posted on 01/30/2012 2:52:56 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: blam
Hmmmmm...wonder what Romneys main dough boy Chris Christie has to say about this?
29 posted on 01/30/2012 3:19:13 PM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: MrB
let’s make crime illegal.

Surely, you jest, who would be left to vote for Bolshecrats.

30 posted on 01/30/2012 3:32:07 PM PST by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: littleharbour
What is the position of that great “conservative” Governor Christie on this issue?

Christie is an NJ conservative.
which means economic not social.

Christie gave a reprieve to Brian Aitken who was in the process of moving back to NJ from out west....he had guns in his trunk and received a “welcome back” sentence of 7 years in prison.

Christie could have given him full pardon and no mark on his record, but he gave him a reprieve from prison.

so Aitken is still a convicted felon and Christie is still an antigun social leftist.

but none of this is news

31 posted on 01/30/2012 3:35:33 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: blam
Just like fireworks.

"Look at all those ammo stores springing up across the state line."

32 posted on 01/30/2012 3:42:21 PM PST by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council; 'Frog - The other green meat')
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To: Never on my watch

DITTO!


33 posted on 01/30/2012 3:44:20 PM PST by Renegade
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To: blam
It would be clearly unconstitutional to enact such a ban.
In inexact analogy would be selling someone a new car without an engine.
34 posted on 01/30/2012 4:00:15 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: blam

If this should happen the people of NJ move to ban the new jersey legislature.


35 posted on 01/30/2012 4:05:38 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Vaquero
Christie could have given him full pardon and no mark on his record, but he gave him a reprieve from prison.

so Aitken is still a convicted felon and Christie is still an antigun social leftist.

and Christie still backs Romney like he's the Messiah (gee, wonder what that says about Romney?).

but none of this is news

There, fixed it.

36 posted on 01/30/2012 4:22:17 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: blam
Can't take your guns, we'll control the Ammo (my title) 10/18/2000
"No bullets, they can't fire the weapons."

They aren't even bothering with the "green" route.

37 posted on 01/30/2012 4:27:15 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Durus
The 2nd Amendment protects arms, not “guns”. Arms includes ammunition.

In this context, the key part of the 2nd Amendment isn't "arms", but rather "bear".

The Amendment doesn't say "own" or "possess" or even "carry". It says "bear", which involves the ability to not only own/possess/carry, but also EMPLOY - if needed. You can own/possess/carry a firearm without needing ammo. You cannot "bear" without the ability to have ammo as well.
38 posted on 01/30/2012 4:31:31 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: blam
In essence, if the Attorney General determines that a particular type of ammunition poses a threat to the police or government officials, that ammunition could be completely banned under this new legislation.

That ban won't save the traitors from the rope.

Like the t-shirt says: "Our Forefathers would be shooting by now."

39 posted on 01/30/2012 5:14:51 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: Sudetenland

The Civil War happened too early; 150 years later and Washngton DC would have fallen in a week.


40 posted on 01/30/2012 5:28:32 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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