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Take the Pledge, Support the Nominee [as long as it's not Romney or Paul. JimRob]
Human Events ^ | 12/23/2011 | Roger Hedgecock

Posted on 12/24/2011 2:43:58 PM PST by neverdem

Be thankful that the season of Obama media vetting of Republican presidential candidates is coming to a close as Republican voters in the primary states at long last get to have their say on who the nominee will be.

The last eight months of media focus on each of the "not-Romneys" has been like watching the picadors in a bullfight wound the bull with their lances before the brave matador steps into the ring to face the dying bull.

But already there's talk of third party campaigns if certain candidates' egos get bruised by voter rejection in the primary season.

All of us who are committed to the defeat of Barack Obama cannot let this happen. Candidates for the Republican nomination for President must pledge now to support the nominee chosen by the voters in upcoming primary elections. Failure to take the pledge should be a factor when Republican primary voters make their choice.

A second term for Obama would do unthinkable harm to this country. I know because I'm already living in Obama's second term.

I live in California, a former "golden state" now mired in bloated government, rising debt (despite a balanced budget amendment to the state constitution), higher taxes, 12% unemployment, with productive people and their businesses fleeing the state. California is awash in illegal aliens, failing schools, and pot hole filled roads.

Don't let California's present be your state's future.

Our incumbent president faces the voters having in just three years championed policies that more than doubled the annual federal deficit, added more than $4 trillion to the government's debt, nearly doubled the unemployment rate, and doubled the price of gasoline.

Based on this record of accomplishment, Obama went on 60 Minutes to claim with a straight face that he is the fourth best President in American history! To protect Obama from his Hugo Chavez moment, 60 Minutes edited out the claim in the on-air version of the interview.

To restore an America of opportunity and prosperity, not to mention humility, Obama must go.

But Obama will be re-elected if candidates rejected by primary voters, or self appointed billionaire blowhards, launch third party bids.

The first to threaten a third party run this week was libertarian Gary Johnson (who?). Wikipedia says Johnson was a two term governor of New Mexico.

Johnson advocates a 23% national sales tax, marijuana legalization, gay marriage, and an open border with Mexico. Johnson charges that "the Republican Party hung me out to dry" after he appeared on only two of the televised debates. Based on his platform, he got more time than he should have.

Johnson is not the threat. The threat is a third party run by Ron Paul, Mike Bloomberg, or Donald Trump. I'm not really worried about the billionaires either; they are most likely bluster and self promotion. I'm worried about a third party Ron Paul campaign re-electing Barack Obama.

Glenn Beck has said that should Newt Gingrich get the Republican nomination, Beck would back Ron Paul as a third party candidate. Glenn: Please reconsider.

According to a Washington Post/ABC News poll published this week, Ron Paul is within 5 points of Obama in a hypothetical November matchup between the two. But if Paul doesn't get the Republican nomination and makes a third party run, Obama will be re-elected when the conservative, right of center majority splits its vote between Paul and the Republican nominee.

What part of "Vote for Perot, Elect Clinton" do you not understand?

I've been down this road before. In 1992. I supported Perot. I was wrong. I won't get fooled again.

Any of the declared candidates for the Republican nomination are preferable to Obama. The choice of Republican voters in the coming primary season should be honored. Ron Paul and all the aspiring presidential hopefuls should pledge to support the nominee.

While I will personally vote in the primary for the candidate I think the most qualified and conservative, I will support the candidate who wins the Republican nomination, whether it be Paul, Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or even Governor Johnson.


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To: Windflier

I ask again.... tell us how they are the same??????


101 posted on 12/24/2011 4:55:54 PM PST by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: neverdem
The best times of a country are the ones in which the people decide their problems are their own. They do not blame them on anyone or anything. They realize they control their own destiny. One way or another, it's not about the leader, it's about the people. A country's leader is a manifestation of its people's character.

Through apathy, indifference, and dependence upon the government, we're about to be, once again, enslaved.

102 posted on 12/24/2011 4:56:52 PM PST by Errant
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To: OSHA
Tell me how they are rthe same.

Ah ah. You first. You're trying to make the case on this thread that a Romney presidency would somehow be better than a second Obama term.

You've stood up here and LOUDLY proclaimed this to everyone. Now explain your reasoning. What substantial difference is there between Obama and Romney?

103 posted on 12/24/2011 4:57:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fiji Hill; OSHA
I suppose there might be a Zimbabwean nickel's worth of difference between the two.

I'm trying to get OSHA to tell us what that Zimbabwean nickel's worth of difference is. He keeps insisting that Romney's better, but he refuses to explain how.

104 posted on 12/24/2011 5:00:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: neverdem
Nope. Can't do that. Time for the GOP to learn they can't keep tossing us bones. NO MORE!

The RINO GOP can suck the snot form my nose for all I care.

Want to replace Obama? Do it with a candidate I can support. No Doles, No McCains, NO RINOS!

NO MORE!

105 posted on 12/24/2011 5:00:57 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I say it’s organized voter fraud, and it comes from the top of the democrats on down


106 posted on 12/24/2011 5:02:08 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: prisoner6
Want to replace Obama? Do it with a candidate I can support. No Doles, No McCains, NO RINOS! NO MORE!

Thank You!

As Jim Rob would say, "Rebellion is brewing!"

107 posted on 12/24/2011 5:05:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; OSHA
Alright, so tell us. What's the substantial difference between Romney and Obama?

With Obama the country dies more quickly.

108 posted on 12/24/2011 5:05:55 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Fiji Hill
I recall a president named Nixon who campaigned as a conservative, yet when he got in, he embraced the Great Society, vastly expanded federal intrusion into the economy by creating the EPA and OSHA, started Affirmative Action, appointed the Supreme Court Justice who wrote Roe vs Wade, and tried to push through a guaranteed annual income.

People forget this. Nixon probably did at least as much to destroy this country as LBJ. By rights liberals should idolize him.

109 posted on 12/24/2011 5:07:20 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: neverdem

I’ll take the pledge, as long as it’s not Paul.


110 posted on 12/24/2011 5:08:37 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: neverdem
I voted for Sarah not the old machine or the RINOs. The Republicans and Democrats are too much alike for me. The tea party needs to start it's own party and not try to take over the tired old ideas republican party. The original Tea Party was against the Loyalists. The democrats and the republicans are the loyalists now and for real change we need a real party not run by the big money and world organizations.
111 posted on 12/24/2011 5:10:38 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: COBOL2Java; OSHA
With Obama the country dies more quickly.

Yep, we've pretty much established that Romney would take us down the same path as Obama, albeit without all the rush and fanfare. We'd be utter fools to believe that he'd change course in any meaningful way.

What I'm trying to find out from OSHA, is what the actual substantive difference is between these two big government liberals. He refuses to say, yet he insists that we vote for the pastel pink over the bold red.

112 posted on 12/24/2011 5:13:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: OSHA
"OBAMA is a racist, socialist, radical, redistributionist, totalitarian, apologist, Muslim, anti Christian, Anti Jewish, Pro terrosit, America hating POS."

You left out 1st, 2nd and 3rd semester pro-abortionist.

113 posted on 12/24/2011 5:17:29 PM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: NTegraT

Okay, that should be trimester. *gulp*


114 posted on 12/24/2011 5:21:29 PM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: COBOL2Java
With Obama the country dies more quickly.

Maybe it's a boil that needs to be popped. With a RINO in it just keeps festering.

NO MORE!

The country may die but The Constitution and FREEDOM will live.

From a dead, entitlement country perhaps a new land of opportunity will arise like The Phoenix from the ashes.

115 posted on 12/24/2011 5:26:13 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: DennisR
Rombot,

I would rather have Satan's brother in the White House than Romney or Paul. At least you know where he stands.

116 posted on 12/24/2011 5:27:52 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: OSHA

I agree with you OSHA.

I will support the Republican nominee and pray it’s not Romney or Paul.

Of the two I think Paul would be the hardest to support but he doesn’t have a chance.

Everyone wishes all the conservatives (except the one we like) would drop out and support one of the others.

Probably not gonna happen.

I’m guessing that if Bachmann drops out, she’ll support Romney (she’s never attacked him much)


117 posted on 12/24/2011 5:28:57 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
ALL polling shows that the lion's share of Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and Santorum supporters go to the remaining conservative, Newt.

It is what it is. Poor Romney.

118 posted on 12/24/2011 5:33:27 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: Windflier

>>Mad? No doubt about it. You’re stark raving mad.

Seriously?? It’s Christmas Eve and you can’t disagree with a person without insulting them?


119 posted on 12/24/2011 5:41:53 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: prisoner6; All
EVERY election from when I started voting in the 60's the GOP has used the scare tactic of "This is THE MOST important election in our lifetime" to get the gullible to vote for the RINO of the moment.

Then it's more of the same. Bigger government, higher taxes, less liberty.

Bring it on. Let's get it over with.

NO Rockefellers, Romneys, McCains, Doles, COUNTRY CLUB REPUBLICANS! NO!

In the 2008 election here in Pittsburgh I was chastised by the Hillman republicans when I went into the local HQ and not finding a sign with PALIN'S name on it was told to shut up, McCain was the nominee and Palin was nothing!

Go to Hades you non conservatives who will vote for anything with an R behind the name!

Take this RINO's and those who will vote for anyone but Obama:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

One of my favorite quotes from S Adams.

Yup, I'm ticked off, but I hide it so well...!

120 posted on 12/24/2011 5:43:32 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Bryanw92
Not insulting at all, IMO. That's the same line I've heard over and over again.

Get the D out and then we can >maybe< start building something new by holding their feet to the fire.

That has worked out SO well!

It ticks me off that I went along with it for so long!

NO MORE!

121 posted on 12/24/2011 5:47:39 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: neverdem

Romney? I might hold my nose. Note that I did say might.
Paul? Gack, that is not even a choice. It’s either stay home or move to Israel.


122 posted on 12/24/2011 5:50:13 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: neverdem

After Virginia, no-vote. No Nazis (not even the crypto- kind), no commies, no affirmative action candidates (no fascism), no globalists—no socialists of any kind.


123 posted on 12/24/2011 5:50:58 PM PST by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: DennisR; Psalm 144; mnehring; Dr. Sivana; Jim Robinson; fieldmarshaldj; Bedford Forrest; ...
If the trust fund babies succeed in nominating the Mitwit, then the Republican Party establishment will be causing the re-election of Obozo. Romney's election would merely destroy the Republican Party and any chance we may have of reversing Obozo'z damage to this country. The Mitwit IS Obozo disguised as a brainless Ken doll. He would make the GOP responsible for the disasters that are sure to result from Obozo's first four years. The Mitwit is no better than his father. George Romney turned traitor on the Vietnam War, claiming to have been "brainwashed." Anti-war Democrat Eugene McCarthy (who later endorsed Reagan in 1980 and 1984) memorably observed that George Romney needed only a "light rinse." That makes the Mitwit an hereditary idiot.

The Mitwit WILL, if given the chance, in OUR name as Republicans or Conservatives:

1. Perpetuate the slaughter of innocent babies whatever lies he may tell now to get in office;

2. Grab guns enthusiastically;

3. Support "marriages" between Adam and Steve and their ability to adopt (recruit) innocent children;

4. Regard military preparedness as an utterly unnecessary "luxury;"

5. Obsess on the care and feeding of trust funds by deporting American jobs, further destroying the industrial sector of the American economy and encouraging the further deterioration of the real income of most Americans, all cheered on by his pals down at the polo club who will unanimously agree with that and his obsession with protecting them through tax policies;

6. Further destroy the SCOTUS and inferior fedcourts by appointments in the despicable GOP establishment tradition of such appointments as Herod Blackmun, Sandra Day O'Connor, David Souter, Lewis Powell and their ilk;

7. Appoint a legion of environmental whackos to mske our lives more miserable and a swarm of bureaucrats who will "harass our people and eat out their substance" as the Declaration of Independence stated it;

8. Destroy further whatever is left of our civil liberties because we wogs will just have to learn our "place;"

9. Lie incessantly on each and every policy that matters because he is simply NOT one of us;

10. Bludgeon into line by the power of establishment money any GOP Congress member with Tea Party or pr-life or pro-gun or pro-family or pro-American rank and file income principles, turning the GOP caucuses further into the political equivalent of mashed potatoes. Do not believe any politically opportunist lie out of the leftist Ken Doll's mouth and certainly do NOT vote this despicable character into office. It would take us a generation to take over or destroy the GOP and/or create a new party of national clout. Oh, and his claimed Mormon faith has absolutely nothing to do with this any more than our opposition to Obozo has anything to do with his skin color.

Tokyo Rove can also go straight to hell as he has become the GOP's own Axelrod destroying or attempting to destroy any GOP candidate worth voting for on both the executive and legislative levels. Bush the Elder (of New World Order fame and a certified member of the clueless American community) has endorsed the Mitwit, What else do we really need to know?

124 posted on 12/24/2011 6:02:08 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: Gilbo_3; Carbonsteel
RE :”feel better now ??? get over yourself and your FEAR of the boogeyman...*if* a representative doesnt show up worthy of voting FOR, then the blame doesnt fall on the citizenry that had a *choice* between piss and vinegar...it lies squarely on the statist gubmint and the media lackeys that have driven the citizen legislator into extinction.

Vote for the RINO or we all die Gilbo. Maybe he will keep us alive an extra few months :)

I would never consider promising to vote for a generic Republican candidate ahead of time. Let them win the nomination then prove they are worthy of my support and vote.

Back in 2008, the choice either Obama or McCain was so terrible I decided to wait till the last minute an hour before poll close to decide if I was going to vote at all. By that time it was absolutely clear to me (and anyone paying attention) that McCain would lose anyway so it didn't matter.

The way things are going I will probably be put in the same situation.

125 posted on 12/24/2011 6:11:49 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: neverdem

I will never support Romney or Paul...not in primary or general.

In fact, GOP, I will actively work against him if he gets the nomination. I’m betting I personally can influence up to a thousand votes in Ohio.

I will support any 3rd party candidate who is a pro-life, pro-God, pro-gun, pro-American exceptionalism, pro-Israel, pro-constitution, pro-fiscal sanity conservative.


126 posted on 12/24/2011 6:53:14 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: neverdem

ABR


127 posted on 12/24/2011 6:53:28 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: neverdem
NO.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”

-- John Quincy Adams


128 posted on 12/24/2011 6:57:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: neverdem

If Romney is the nominee in the general election next year, maybe I’ll write in “Ross Perot.”


129 posted on 12/24/2011 7:01:28 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: CainConservative

“The Era of Reagan is over”
- Newt Gingrich, who then went to ally himself with Nancy Pelosi

Say no to NewtRomney.
Amnesty is permanent. It does not matter what we do otherwise if amnesty is passed. Once the “citizen amnesty review boards” get going, there is no going back.


130 posted on 12/24/2011 7:06:01 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: xzins

Dittos, MEGA dittos.


131 posted on 12/24/2011 7:28:15 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Lump it like the Conservatives did in 2008?

Conservatives DID NOT stay home in 2008. Moderates and Independents smacked the GOP like they did in 2006. They reversed course in 2010. That's why we now have the House. Do you need exit poll results? Search 2006exitpoll, 2008exitpoll and 2010exitpoll as keywords. I posted those results, or linked them for 2010, a sample of 17,504, IIRC, from CBS.

132 posted on 12/24/2011 7:38:02 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ScottinVA; OSHA

The only one I won’t vote for is Ron Paul. Other than that, ABO.


133 posted on 12/24/2011 7:41:36 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional conservative Republican who wants to win)
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To: neverdem
...I agree. In 08 I lived in KY and voted at the end of the day for reasons not needing explaining here. McCain won the electorate by a big margin, so, my vote was by default, meaningless. Rand Paul also got my vote for senator. Yes, we need more like him and less like McConnell.

I will endeavor at a local and state level here in VA if I stay to elect conservatives, but I don't have much hope for the WH. I'm done with Presidents, they're supposed to lead, but the last several have mucked up in too many ways. My Congressman is supposed to represent. That is my only voice in this. Thanks for the input. Merry Christmas.

134 posted on 12/24/2011 7:46:38 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: Carbonsteel
If we would stop letting the media pick our candidates for us and learn to think for ourselves, we wouldn't have this problem.

Speak for yourself. Just because I may prefer Bachman over whoever your choice is doesn't mean I can't think for myself.

You sound a lot like those liberals who keep lamenting that conservative voters don't vote in their best interests. That's bull as well.

135 posted on 12/24/2011 8:12:29 PM PST by MovementConservative (Go Mariners! 2012!)
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To: Nita Nupress; prisoner6; Jim Robinson; onyx; dixiechick2000; ntnychik

136 posted on 12/24/2011 8:20:18 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: jrg

“So will I unless it’s Paul or Romney.”

Heard the same crap in 2008 and we got McLame.


137 posted on 12/24/2011 8:29:35 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the media, you control its citizens.)
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To: PhilDragoo

LOL!


138 posted on 12/24/2011 8:38:19 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: neverdem

I think we need to nominate a tea party candidate and get independents on board.Screw the GOP.I am sick of the dog and pony shows.Dems win ruin everything GOP wins they only show nads when town halls happen and they are forced too..Dems win, GOP wins.They all say -every time- that they will close the borders and do term limits and stop spending.AND NOTHING CHANGES.Rinse and repeat rinse and repeat.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.IT IS INSANE.

Go tea party! We can do online nominating.


139 posted on 12/24/2011 8:43:22 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: DennisR; CainConservative
So you will not vote at all if it is Romney or Paul? Not likely it will be Paul, so we are talking Romney. If you do not vote for Romney, you will allow an Obama voter (of which there will be many) to have their vote counted and not negated. It’s simple mathematics - a nonvote by you is a vote for Obama. For all intents and purposes, you will be voting for Obama, no?

So, I would humbly suggest, DennisR, you get in there with the rest of us and make sure that Romney does not make it out of the Primaries, because otherwise, Obama wins.

Not just because a sizable majority of the base of the GOP refuses to vote for Romney, but because he just can't win.

He is the John McCain of 2012.
140 posted on 12/24/2011 10:05:46 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: xzins; Jim Robinson
In fact, GOP, I will actively work against him if he gets the nomination. I’m betting I personally can influence up to a thousand votes in Ohio.

Amen to that brother!

I'll bet I can do the same in California.

This should be our rallying cry!

This should be our warning shot across the bow of the GOP!
141 posted on 12/24/2011 10:08:56 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: neverdem

I took the pledge in 1972.

I’ve voted for the GOP nominee in 10 straight national elections.

My unrequited political prayer is that some way, somehow, the Democratic Party will commit suicide before the Republicans do.

I mean, if the Soviet Union can collapse, a Conservative can always dream.


142 posted on 12/24/2011 10:29:18 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: CainConservative

I will vote for a syphilitic camel over Obama.

Paul was my representative in Texas. He was glad to accept the support of the local racists.

Romney is a Mormon, a religion that was begun by a professional fraud, and furthered through perversion.

Yet I would vote for either of them over Obama.


143 posted on 12/24/2011 11:35:27 PM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t think the Republican party has clue one, how close it is to waking up one morning, and not having anyone registered in it’s ranks any longer.

Nationwide registration numbers look quite anemic from what I understand.


144 posted on 12/24/2011 11:40:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: RaceBannon

Don’t you think some of that has been taking place for the last thirty years. We do have Republican pole watchers out there. They must be protecting us somewhat, unless I’m way off base.

Reagan absolutely pounded Carter. A strong guy with a great message would have pounded Gore, Kerry, and Obama too IMO.

We’re not contrasting our guys with the likes of Obama. We run as close to a clone against him as we can, then wonder why the electorate votes for the ‘real’ Democrat.

If the RNC would spend it’s time on education, and the party as a whole followed Conservative ideals, we would be able to contrast wholesome values better against Democrat values.

Here we are poised to have Romney as the nominee. I know it’s not set yet, but this is the direction it looks like we’re headed in.

How do we contrast him with Obama? We have the worst president in our history, and our possible champion for November 2012, is his clone.

I don’t personally think Romney is as bad as Obama, but he is so bad that his candidacy will muddy the waters, and make it harder for folks to make a clean decision.

Frankly, I wish the Republican party would set a minimum level of standards, and if candidates didn’t measure up, they would boot them from the party.

We would be stronger for it in short order.


145 posted on 12/24/2011 11:49:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: OSHA

Wash, rinse, repeat with the corrupt GOP establishment then.

You can do that, that is your choice.

But, I will not be getting on the Comet heading into the Winston tunnel.


146 posted on 12/25/2011 2:41:52 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think you said a nice sentiment, but from what I have seen since 1996, I doubt we have good poll watching

While Dole was a clown, CLINTON was our worst president and enough people knew of his treason and were furious at him, yet he wins with a 60% margin??

Gore/LIEberman coming so close in 2000?

If Kerry wasn’t so pompous, I think it would have been closer, but in 2008, I just dont see all the millions of ballots that we KNEW were fraudulent and also commented on here so much then as being dismissable

we are in grave danger from voter fraud, and I am not happy at a national ID card, which if honest is the only cure


147 posted on 12/25/2011 5:15:41 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: OSHA

‘I love my country more than I hate Romney’

Right on!

If you love your country, kick out the usurper soetoro/soebarkah/barry/bounel/shabbazz/obama no matter what!
Not voing against the usurper means you want to keep obamacare, union thugs, acorn, voter fraud, czars, socialists/marxists, islamofascists, unprecedented deficits/debts, depressed economy, no future for your children and their children, hyprocracies and lies, hyper inflation........
Got it?
With a conservative congress, a vigilant people, even a Rino will be steered in the right direction.
One step at a time!


148 posted on 12/25/2011 5:24:42 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: neverdem
What part of "Vote for Perot, Elect Clinton" do you not understand?

I've been down this road before. In 1992. I supported Perot. I was wrong. I won't get fooled again.

Agree and AMEN. Before I'd ever vote for a third party candidate again we'd have to have runoff elections in place for public offices. Basically, anybody and everybody in the building in those pubby debates including the janitor and the guard dog would be a gigantic improvement over Barrack Obama.

149 posted on 12/25/2011 5:35:23 AM PST by varmintman
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To: EGPWS

I am not for Romney, but
Unlike soetoro/sobarkah/barry/bounnel/shabbazz/barrry/obama/whatever, Romney and all the other R candidates are Americans who love America! There will be no czars, less union thugs, no world-wide apologies, lower debts/deficits, less spending.......
A conservative congress and a vigilant people will be better positioned to steer even a Rino in the right path.
With 4 more years of the anti-constitution, anti-American usurper BHO/aka, USA will be finsished!


150 posted on 12/25/2011 5:35:35 AM PST by chrisnj
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