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Purpose of FR and why we can never support Mitt Romney
vanity | Oct 15, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 10/15/2011 1:51:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 10/15/2011 1:54:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Our purpose and goal on FR is to restore, defend, preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States and to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity!!

The goal of the domestic enemy (the left), i.e., the statist liberals, Marxists and progressives is just the opposite.

The goal of the establishment RINO is to gain control of political power, but not to otherwise rock the boat. The boat continues taking on water and listing sharper to port every time the left takes over, but the unprincipled RINOs do absolutely nothing to right her when they get a chance. In fact, the RINOs actually tack on plenty of their own unconstitutional baggage when they're in power and so our ship of state today is in pretty bad shape.

RINO Romney is one of the worst. We can thank him for being the chief architect of ObamaCare, which if we cannot get overturned and repealed, will finally accomplish the left's major objective of shredding the final remnants of our tattered constitution and ending our God-given Liberty forever (they think).

The liberals believe our constitution is a flawed document written in a different time for different circumstances by rich old racist white men and no longer applies to today's circumstances. They're now even trying to promote the idea that the constitution was never intended to limit or restrict the powers of government.

Like hell! That was and is its primary intent! And we who have sworn an oath to defend it, will defend it--from all enemies, foreign and domestic!

And that's FR's purpose and reason for being.

Romney may be a Republican, and that's questionable, because he's violated nearly every plank in the Republican party's official pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Family, pro-Constitution, pro-Liberty platform, but he's definitely no conservative. In fact his record is that of a statist liberal progressive. And he's a total fraud to boot, with a nasty habit of lying--about everything. He'll do and say anything if he thinks it will help him get elected. He's a two-bit, unprincipled political whore.

Here's Romney's record on some of our primary issues of concern compared to Obama's:

Issue: Obama Romney
Pro-Abortion check check
Gun-grabber check check
Gay rights check check
Gov forced healthcare check check
Tax payer funded abortion check check
Man-made global warming check check
Liberal judges check check
Liberal appointees check check
Ted Kennedy pal check check
Proven liar check check
Fraud check check
Liberal Progressive check check
Enemy of Reagan/Bush check check
Enemy of the tea party check check
Enemy of Liberty check check
Defender of the Constitution no no
Conservative no no
Works across the aisle no yes
Architect of ObamaCare no yes
Domestic Enemy check check
Useful idiot check check

All of the above plus much more is documented in the RomneyTruth files on FR. Click the RomneyTruthFile keyword at the top of the main page. Also watch the "New Romney Campaign Video" also linked at the top of the main page. Watch it all the way through. I even saw some clips I'd never seen before. Pretty damning stuff for anyone running for president as a Republican.

Let's face it folks, the elite establishment RINO corps hates the tea party, hates conservatives, are afraid and even ashamed to have us identify ourselves as Republicans, feel we are dangerous extremist, racist, bigoted bible thumping, gun-toting, flag-waving neanderthals. The tea party is the best thing to happen for America since 1776 and our tea party candidates are the best thing for the GOP since Ronald Reagan, but what do the elite establishment RINOs do? They declare us the enemy! They went after Sarah Palin and some of our other tea party candidates with bared fangs and talons. Karl Rove and company were and continue to be as nasty and shameless on the attack as the nastiest lying liberal. Sarah Palin was the most exciting new face in GOP politics in a century and would have been a landslide 57 state victory over the corrupt, lying Marxist/progressive Obama. But the good ol' boys, i.e., the elite establishment corrupt crony capitalist GOP bastards could have none of that. Instead, they've opted to go all in with a corrupt, lying statist/progressive of their own: Willard (the Rat) Romney.

Well, good luck getting the Rat elected without the committed grassroots, pro-life, pro-constitution conservatives or the majority of the tea party.

FR, for one, will not play that game. NO MORE RINOS!!

No Romney. NOT ON FR!! NOT ON MY WATCH!!

Should Romney be "the one," I'll vote for the down-ticket conservatives on the ballot, but I will not vote for an abortionist, gay-rights pushing, gun-grabbing, global-warming advocating, big government healthcare mandating statist/progressive for president!! I'd rather write-in the name of the tea party conservative who best matches my beliefs. Romney is no 80 percenter. Not even close! He's the backstabbing enemy within.

God bless America!!

Long live the Republic!!


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To: Jim Robinson

NO more Settling for some wishy washy Rino on Pro-life and everything else you listed.

It’s time to clean house.

And apparently it’s going to take a lot of disinfectant.


201 posted on 10/15/2011 2:52:11 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Dr. White

I hate n00bs.


202 posted on 10/15/2011 2:52:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
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To: TruthHound

You think you will defeat Obama by voting for Obama-lite.


203 posted on 10/15/2011 2:52:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: bboop

Then you are part of the problem.


204 posted on 10/15/2011 2:52:31 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: cdefreese; Jim Robinson
I’d rather have a guy I agree with 40% there than a guy I agree 4% on.

Let's see, Myth is:

1. Pro-abortion.
2. Pro-homosexual agenda.
3. Pro-gun control.
4. Pro-socialized medicine.
5. Has a history of appointing leftist judges.

What's the 40% you agree with?

205 posted on 10/15/2011 2:52:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Lazamataz

“So, the answer is to allow Obama another 4 years?”

Yes. The answer is to allow Obama another 4 years.

Do you want to know why?

Because Romney will govern no differently than Obama. Not even slightly. Romney is an abortionist, gay-rights pushing, gun-grabbing, global-warming advocating, big government healthcare mandating statist/progressive. I’d rather not disillusion the mainstream Republicans by having a Republican govern like a radical leftist. Let that be the hallmark of Obama.

This is not a good idea at all. Romney may not be the best, and he may be a disappointing nominee, but unless some miracle happens (who knows, maybe God will intervene), it looks as though we may be stuck with him.

Nonsense. I swallowed that shit sandwich ONE TOO MANY TIMES, with McCain. This tired and worn argument, I swore, I would never sign on to again.

They don’t need my vote, but if they want it, do not present Romney. PERIOD.
_______________________

Hear hear!

After McCain, I vowed that I was *done* with RINOS. I will vote my conscience. I will vote for the candidate that I believe in. I will never compromise again.


206 posted on 10/15/2011 2:53:14 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: cdefreese; Lazamataz
And what 60% do you DISAGREE with Romney on?

To: cdefreese; Jim Robinson

I’d rather have a guy I agree with 40% there than a guy I agree 4% on.

Okay, YOU said this, NOW DEFEND IT.

WHAT 40% DO YOU AGREE WITH ROMNEY ABOUT?

196 posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:49:53 PM by Lazamataz

207 posted on 10/15/2011 2:53:47 PM PDT by Dr. White
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To: Jim Robinson

That is what I was hoping to hear!


208 posted on 10/15/2011 2:54:33 PM PDT by Marak (I don't deal with reality.)
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To: Lazamataz
Why should that bug us? How important has Biden the Invisible been?

Exactly, with the exception of Cheney, very few VPs have had any real influence.

209 posted on 10/15/2011 2:54:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: shield

“There are a lot of Romney supporters here disguised as Cain supporters.”

And you are unbiased, right?


210 posted on 10/15/2011 2:54:50 PM PDT by Grunthor (Isn't Herman Cain just Steven Urkel at 65?)
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To: Lazamataz
I hate n00bs.

And brussels sprouts.

I really hate brussels sprouts.

211 posted on 10/15/2011 2:55:03 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Jane Long

Oh come on...there have been many Paul supporters doing the identical thing. And some of them act like Perry supporters....and some of the Perry supporters could be Romney supporters attacking Cain on Cain threads. It is not all one sided works both ways. We just need to find these Romney supporters dressed as Perry supporters or Cain supporters.


212 posted on 10/15/2011 2:55:07 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That slimy SOB is going to be the party nominee - you just watch.

This will be the same old worn-out political process where the party elite selects someone who is ‘middle-of-the-road and shows just how wonderful and inclusive we are’ crap.

The whole thing sickens me to the core.


213 posted on 10/15/2011 2:55:24 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: shield
This is important statement. There are a lot of Romney supporters here disguised as Cain supporters. I wish you luck in finding them and zotting them.

Please name them.


214 posted on 10/15/2011 2:55:38 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Jim Robinson

If mitt somehow gets the nomination (God Forbid!), then for the first time in my life, I would abstain from voting for POTUS. Or write in someone else...


215 posted on 10/15/2011 2:55:43 PM PDT by ph12321 (We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jim Robinson

Can anyone think of a way to let the Republican establishment that WE don’t want and will not go along with the next in line? Something before the primaries.

Something with impact or should we just wait until the primaries and hope for the best?


216 posted on 10/15/2011 2:55:53 PM PDT by 30Moves
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To: bboop; Jim Robinson

Romney is just as evil as Obama, but he is a better liar.


218 posted on 10/15/2011 2:56:10 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
"This is important statement. There are a lot of Romney supporters here disguised as Cain supporters. I wish you luck in finding them and zotting them."

Noticed that too.

Name them.

219 posted on 10/15/2011 2:56:43 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: cdefreese

I’d rather have a guy I agree with 40% there than a guy I agree 4% on.

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Really? Look again at Jim’s checklist of issues. Where Obama and Romeny are identical on the issues.

So tell us. What 40 percent of Romney’s positions do you agre with?

We’re waiting.


220 posted on 10/15/2011 2:56:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Dr. White

“And what 60% do you DISAGREE with Romney on?”

You might be in the wrong place.


221 posted on 10/15/2011 2:57:50 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: edzo4

The majority of the people that I have talked to here are with you. As am I.


222 posted on 10/15/2011 2:58:31 PM PDT by Grunthor (Isn't Herman Cain just Steven Urkel at 65?)
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To: cdefreese

I’d rather have a guy I agree with 40% there than a guy I agree 4% on.
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So you would choose <40% Romney over 94<% Cain ???


223 posted on 10/15/2011 2:58:34 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Lazamataz

Attacking someone based upon their sign-up date at Free Republic is a horrible approach to building any organization.


224 posted on 10/15/2011 2:58:45 PM PDT by Dr. White
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To: Ramius; Jim Robinson

I will not vote for Obama however, as the romney-haters here will do. I just won’t do it.

- - - - -
I am one of those ‘Romney Haters’ and I won’t vote for Obama and I won’t stay home. I will however vote down ticket and for a 3rd party even if I have to write in a candidate.

ROMNEY IS NOT AN OPTION!!!! EVER!!


225 posted on 10/15/2011 2:58:45 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: DCBryan1
HONKIES FOR HERMAN!

Kinda has a ring to it.

226 posted on 10/15/2011 2:59:19 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Dr. White; DCBryan1
So you are a rude and crude individual as well as a racist

Say there n00b, with a name like 'DR WHITE', I wouldn't be slinging that racist-word around.
227 posted on 10/15/2011 2:59:44 PM PDT by mkjessup (Herman Cain is a God fearin', Jesus-lovin', Constitution-revering PATRIOT. What's not to like?)
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To: Dr. White; DCBryan1; Jim Robinson
So you are a rude and crude individual as well as a racist.

Let me get this straight newbie, you are calling a long-time FReeper a "racist" for SUPPORTING a Black candidate for president?

228 posted on 10/15/2011 2:59:56 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: APatientMan
For seeking a clear establishment of positions?

If that draws fire, then probably so.

229 posted on 10/15/2011 3:00:03 PM PDT by Dr. White
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To: reaganaut

Im mean and I like it when I can make a RomneyBot cry...

LOL


230 posted on 10/15/2011 3:00:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen. And i would add,,, who is the greater enemy, the one openly attacking you,, or the one who claims to be your friend, but works to help the enemy agenda?

The GOP must be reformed,,THIS TIME,,THIS ELECTION, or it must be abandoned.


231 posted on 10/15/2011 3:00:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: wagglebee

For using racist terms.


232 posted on 10/15/2011 3:00:54 PM PDT by Dr. White
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To: Lazamataz

It would bug me. How important was Bush when he ran with Reagan? I really don’t want a ticket that would elevate the election of Romney now or in the future.


233 posted on 10/15/2011 3:01:05 PM PDT by Marak (I don't deal with reality.)
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To: Grunthor
I have identified some Perry supporters who I think are Romney and Paul supporters. They end up on Cain threads attacking Cain. It isn't a one way street it works both ways. The important thing is to identify them. They are disrupting both Cain and Perry threads.

I am happy Jim Robinson has written this article. He doesn't want Romney supporters here infecting Cain or Perry threads.

234 posted on 10/15/2011 3:01:05 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Inyo-Mono; shield; Jim Robinson

I am still waiting for your two to begin naming Cain supporters who are closet Romney supporters.

I’m sure Jim would *love* to know their names. As a matter of fact, so would I.

Please.

Enlighten us.


235 posted on 10/15/2011 3:01:54 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Jim Robinson
Should Romney be “the one,” I'll vote for the down-ticket conservatives on the ballot, but I will not vote for an abortionist, gay-rights pushing, gun-grabbing, global-warming advocating, big government healthcare mandating statist/progressive for president!! I'd rather write-in the name of the tea party conservative who best matches my beliefs.

I'm glad you added that. The worst thing we can do is stay home on election day and throw away the House and the Senate. But if I see the name Palin anywheres on that ballot I'll be happy to check that box.

236 posted on 10/15/2011 3:02:12 PM PDT by McGruff (www.conservativepartyusa.com - Check it out)
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To: Dr. White
And what 60% do you DISAGREE with Romney on?

Well, you hairy-eyeball n00b POS (GOD I hate freakin n00bs):

  1. He likes MM Global Warming. I don't.
  2. He believes in gay marriage. Not me.
  3. He instituted Romneycare, the forerunner of ObamaCare. Bzzt.
  4. He raised taxes prodigiously and called them fees. He lies AND acts like a liberal.
  5. He helped Planned Parenthood RAISE MONEY and thusly demonstrated his view on abortion.
  6. He placed more regulations and upped taxes on gun owners. No go Tokyo.
Need you more?

And in case your comment was more directed at the other fellow, please strip the snarkiness out of my message and then read it.

237 posted on 10/15/2011 3:02:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
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To: Dr. White

Attacking someone based upon their sign-up date at Free Republic is a horrible approach to building any organization.

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Not really. We’ve been doing it for years. It works.

lolol

Now zot off Dr. Cracker.


238 posted on 10/15/2011 3:02:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Dr. White; Lazamataz; Jim Robinson
Attacking someone based upon their sign-up date at Free Republic is a horrible approach to building any organization.

Hey newbie, FR is BY FAR the most important and influential conservative forum in the world.

FR brought down Dan Rather, we're way beyond the "building" stage.

What we DON'T need is a troll who accuses people of being a racist for supporting Black conservative.

239 posted on 10/15/2011 3:02:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Gumdrop; Jim Robinson

If Romney is the pubbie nominee, we can kiss the GOP goodbye along with a conservative president for the next 20 years and this country cannot afford that.


240 posted on 10/15/2011 3:03:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Or make them cower in the corner and cover their ears...


241 posted on 10/15/2011 3:04:15 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Dr. White
Sorry, but it matters, n00b. People who have been consistently here for (in my case nearly 12) years, day in and day out, consistently fighting for freedom and a return to the Constitution, get greater 'props' than anyone new.

Put in your licks, like the rest of us had to.

Respect on FR is EARNED.

242 posted on 10/15/2011 3:04:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
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My hope is that more people reading this will work to defeat Romney in IA or NH or SC.

If it’s important enough to defy him next NOV, it’s important enough to defeat him this winter.


243 posted on 10/15/2011 3:04:45 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (I might go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Here comes the stirring of the hornet’s nest.

Believe me, I can’t stand Rompit. I curse the corrupt machine that would consider him the best that the Republicans can run against Ø. Is it any wonder I’m not registered a Republican, but a conservative independent?

I’m just wondering what this neck of the woods is going to look like if god forbid Mittstake is on the marquis at the 2012 RNC. Painful as it may be, it’s a fact that if that’s the choice for the RepNom, it’ll either be Mitt Romney or Barack Hussein Øbama who will take that oath a year from January. Any other proposed outcome is a break from reality. So your noble and justifiably principled opposition to MR would make FreeRepublic a de facto pro-Obama website that ill-fated day Romney is seen as inevitable candidate.

My complicity in such a resolute disposition would be a tough sell to my future grandchildren when they look me in the eye and ask what I did to oust the admitted Marxist President back in 2012 whose re-election fundamentally transformed their liberties onto the ash heap of history.

Again, DAMN the Republican establishment who may propel the least conservative on the stage to the nomination. And BRAVO in your efforts to avert such a calamity during this historically critical primary. But to say there’s “no difference” between him and a full-on Marxist who is so obviously intent on the destruction of any semblance of Unity in the United States... that’s pure hyperbole and I know you’re too intelligent not to admit it.

I love this site and the last thing I would want is a political pissing match with Jim Robinson over this election. But if you are determined to use Free Republic to actively work to defeat any man who would dethrone Øbama, this is going to be an interesting—albeit lonely place.


244 posted on 10/15/2011 3:04:47 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Marie

Another poster the other day brought up the point of congress and the house. We need to ALSO be working hard to get conservatives in there - and doing it NOW. Along with your non-Romney Republican of choice for the nomination.

And don’t vote for Romney. If Romney is in, his liberal ideas, liberal judges, etc. will be more likely to pass congress/house if we have a majority R. (Hey - we’re all republicans, right?!) But the Rep. congress/house will make it tough for Obama to get his crap (including liberal judges) through.

And of course a Romney presidency just furthers the idea that only a “moderate” Republican can ever get elected.

I thought that was a good point.


245 posted on 10/15/2011 3:05:32 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: wagglebee
What we DON'T need is a troll who accuses people of being a racist for supporting Black conservative.

Nice. Like it.

246 posted on 10/15/2011 3:06:04 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
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To: reaganaut

Being shielded by a big victim card...

:)


247 posted on 10/15/2011 3:06:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Lazamataz

Bingo!


248 posted on 10/15/2011 3:06:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: TruthHound

Romney will have no chance against Obama if he’s the nominee.


249 posted on 10/15/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: shield

“I have identified some Perry supporters who I think are Romney and Paul supporters.”

I must have missed that, can you give me a name or a link please? I really don’t want to be fooled by one of these nefarious sleepers.

“They end up on Cain threads attacking Cain.”

Um...really? Because the ones I see attacking Cain can be tracked back most times directly to Perry threads, supporting him.

“I am happy Jim Robinson has written this article. He doesn’t want Romney supporters here infecting Cain or Perry threads.”

I agree with you. I hope this policy stands even after the nomination process is over.


250 posted on 10/15/2011 3:07:03 PM PDT by Grunthor (Isn't Herman Cain just Steven Urkel at 65?)
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