Skip to comments.Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?
Posted on 10/09/2011 5:21:04 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
He is the latest Tea Party favourite to burst through in the increasingly heated race for the Republican presidential nomination and see their poll numbers rocket them to frontrunner status.
However, unlike previous rightwing darlings such as Texas governor Rick Perry and Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann, wealthy businessman Herman Cain, 65, can claim to be cut from a very different sort of cloth from the average Republican candidate.
First, he is not actually a politician. Cain, whose CV includes being a radio show host, a navy ballistics expert, a Baptist minister and a Federal Reserve official, has never held elected office in his life. His most famous job was as chief executive of the fast-food firm Godfather's Pizza.
Yet none of that seemed to matter to the cheering crowds at the Values Voter Summit in a Washington DC hotel late last week. There was much to celebrate. A Zogby opinion poll had just boosted Cain into first place in the race, with 38% of the vote, compared with 18% for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Perry trailed in third place with 12%. The study even showed Cain beating President Barack Obama in a match-up by 46% to 44%.
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When one is losing the argument, you play the race card. Just try using that everytime you defend your candidate.
Doesn’t scare me. Keep it up and you will soon see how many new supporters you win here.
Look at it this way; Whom ever they support, consider that candidate's days to be numbered.
I knew Pavlov, Pavlov was a friend of mine, and I can see that you know him too.
*DING DING DING* LOL
Your remarks don’t help your candidate and I will call Barack Obama “boy” anytime I feel like it.
They have a new weapon they didn’t have before.
I think they know. I think they want to pretend they don't.
Lot’s of information there at his website. I won’t try to forecast where we’ll be a year form now, but he seems like a force to be reckoned with...from his site:
“In 1994, as head of the National Restaurant Association, he had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, Herman challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed. President Clinton attempted to assure him and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.
Herman was skeptical. Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect, he said. In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesnt work that way. His words echoed across America, and Newsweek named Herman Cain the primary saboteur of Hillarycare.”
He’s still moving about the planet, which is more than can be said for many who encountered the most corrupt president our country has seen. There’s a link to a YouTube clip of the same scene there at his site.
Shouldn't that be "second most corrupt"?
I think Cain and anyone else with a mind realizes that Romney doesn’t have a chance. At this point, it is a Cain Perry race.
Just wondered if you have seen this article?
well.... not ANY. There are three that are not getting my vote, no way, no how. Then there are those so far behind that they should drop out.
He assumes companies will give everyone a 15.3% pay increase, which I don’t believe would happen. Right now only 5.65% of your gross pay goes to Social Security and Medicare taxes. The other 7.65% is what the company pays, but there is no requirement that the company must give you that 7.65%.
Is there something in place to prevent Congress from tampering with our present tax code?
That's wrong right off the bat. The overwhelming majority of people don't work for themselves. They pay a FICA that is currently 5.65%. That's less than 9% even before you factor in the 9% sales tax.
Cain explained that the proposed 9% national sales tax would only be applied to new goods that change hands and not to the sale of used goods
His own website makes no such claim. It speaks of a 9% sales tax, period. No exclusion for used goods or food or services or housing or anything. So virtually anything you buy goes up 9%.
Oh yes, you just got 3 more votes for your candidate by playing the race card.
You think its the ultimate insult to anyone who disagrees with a black man.
It won’t work here.
What an asinine thing to say. Cain is a mathematician. So, as a business man, he sure would hire himself!
999 is just a selling slogan. Herman is realistic, reasonable, and solid enough to iron out the wrinkles.
One thing is for sure.
We don't need another POLITICIAN.
Point, Match, HC.
Sorry, correction, Cain was asked to and considered running for NE senate but declined in favor of running for POTUS in 2000. So 2 failed elections. However, he was active in NE politics and definitely has a record there, including endorsing a Democrat over a Republican. Who and why I haven’t found yet.
There are many sites that talk about his positions and the pro civil rights platform he ran on in Georgia. The following is just one of many with a summation of some of Herman Cain’s positions:
Cain’s abortion stance is a mess. He needs to clarify that and his 2nd amendment stance has already been ruled unconstitutional. What is his position?
Herman Cain needs to be vetted NOW, by his supporters. If I can find this info with my limited research skills and a simple google search, you can bet the MSM and Obama team have it.
Cain’s first degree was a BS in Math if I have the detail right———He got his MS while he was doing ballistics work for the US Navy-——I’m just itching to watch a bunch of lawyers try to take him on with the numbers! It won’t even be a fair fight. Makes me think of one sheep dog with teeth herding a bunch of mutton that has nothing but butts and hair.
Maybe he will offer them a tuition discount! /s
Cut your insults. I call lots of guys boys including my husband and he likes it. He’s 67 years old.
But he’s not black, is he?
I think that is what it is. I haven't looked but does ghetto only refer to black neighborhoods or is it a general term for badly run down neighborhoods?
noun, plural ghet·tos, ghet·toes.
1. a section of a city, especially a thickly populated slum area, inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.
2.(formerly, in most European countries) a section of a city in which all Jews were required to live.
3. a section predominantly inhabited by Jews.
4. any mode of living, working, etc., that results from stereotyping or biased treatment: job ghettos for women; ghettos for the elderly.
Ghettos seems to apply to a lot of different people, NOT JUST BLACKS.
I think he is on the right track. Improve these areas to help bring business back to these areas and thus employ people ala job creation!
Who dry cleans sheets? Does anyone do that? And what does clean bedding have to do with any of this??
Seriously though, the race card is pretty lame. I play rough and don't mind if others do too. I can be a very cranky critic, and so I have to accept the same in return. But the race card? That's just nonsense.
Cain has one outstanding defect against his candidacy:
Playing the Niggerhead card against Perry!
He should have kept his mouth shut about this non-issue!
No and No.
You obviously haven’t been in the upper 20% of the population who have to mark their every move on that ridiculously complicated and byzantine tax code. My time and privacy mean more to me than to spend hours keeping books specifically for the government.
Perhaps we could come up with a system where people who enjoy being b-——s for a bunch of authoritarian a———s and wasting hundreds of hours a year under the whips of a bunch of ignorant, effete, and officious bastards could opt for that, instead of just simply paying straight taxes.
Cain would negotiate the numbers, and by the way, his 9 9 9 would include that for Social Security, etc. I didn’t see that added in to your figures.
Originalists among the anabaptist movement do not, in fact, consider themselves to be part of the Protestant movement at all since they never bought into the state church thing dating back to the time of Emperor Constantine.
Jan Hus is the most famous of the anabaptist martyrs. However, there is ample evidence that Roger Williams, the American icon of religious freedom, had anabaptist leanings as well.
This is the kind of statement psychologist Paul Meehl identified and called a 'barnum statement." It sounds uniquely meaningful but could be applied almost anywhere about any subject.
"Being a general is much different than being a President."(Washington, Eisenhower) "Being a Secretary of State is much different than being President"( Jefferson, Madison, Monroe). Being a movie actor is much different than being President(Reagan).
Maybe we should stick with governors like Clinton and Carter. Should have given Dukakis a try. All that "political experience" really paid off for the nation.
What makes you so sure of that.
Cain would negotiate the numbers, and by the way, his 9 9 9 would include that for Social Security, etc. I didnt see that added in to your figures.
Then read it again. I pointed out that the average family of 4 with the median income likely pays nothing but FICA, currently at 5.65%. So Cain's plan is an income tax increase on them right off the bat. Add to that the 9% sales tax on virtually everything they buy and it more than doubles their federal taxes.
Reducing Herman Cain to a “Pizza Delivery” man just shows your ignorance,or perhaps bias.
“running a corporation is much different than being president of the Nation.” How is it much different? To run a corporation you need to be a problem-solver. To run this country you need to be a problem-solver.
A good problem-solver can solve problems... wherever they are. We need a problem-solver to run this country because the current president has created more problems than he has solved. He is not a problem-solver. He’s the last of the big spenders (of our tax money).
Cain doesn’t need any political experience to solve problems. That’s a major misconception that many people have.
Perhaps, but were they generals?
FICA is not 5.65%. It is 7.65% x 2 = 15.30% IIRC.
Check your paycheck. The employee contribution has been 5.65% since the first of the year.
Check your paycheck. The employee contribution has been 5.65% since the first of the year.
I couple of them were.
My crooked brother pays me as an “outside contractor,” he doesn’t take out the taxes.
Then if everyone worked for a crooked brother then everyone would make out under the 9-9-9 plan.
That’s good to know. (as an aside, my brother is a sociopath and has no contact with anyone in family including me-)