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Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?
guardian.co.uk ^ | 8 October 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/09/2011 5:21:04 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

He is the latest Tea Party favourite to burst through in the increasingly heated race for the Republican presidential nomination and see their poll numbers rocket them to frontrunner status.

However, unlike previous rightwing darlings such as Texas governor Rick Perry and Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann, wealthy businessman Herman Cain, 65, can claim to be cut from a very different sort of cloth from the average Republican candidate.

First, he is not actually a politician. Cain, whose CV includes being a radio show host, a navy ballistics expert, a Baptist minister and a Federal Reserve official, has never held elected office in his life. His most famous job was as chief executive of the fast-food firm Godfather's Pizza.

Yet none of that seemed to matter to the cheering crowds at the Values Voter Summit in a Washington DC hotel late last week. There was much to celebrate. A Zogby opinion poll had just boosted Cain into first place in the race, with 38% of the vote, compared with 18% for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Perry trailed in third place with 12%. The study even showed Cain beating President Barack Obama in a match-up by 46% to 44%.

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To: altura
I just found the post you referenced, about dry cleaning sheets. I didn't know anyone dry cleaned sheets. I thought they just washed them.

Seriously though, the race card is pretty lame. I play rough and don't mind if others do too. I can be a very cranky critic, and so I have to accept the same in return. But the race card? That's just nonsense.

281 posted on 10/09/2011 5:33:22 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: ml/nj

Cain has one outstanding defect against his candidacy:

Playing the Niggerhead card against Perry!

He should have kept his mouth shut about this non-issue!


282 posted on 10/09/2011 6:13:24 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: SoJoCo

No and No.


283 posted on 10/09/2011 8:02:12 PM PDT by Nucluside (ready)
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To: SoJoCo

You obviously haven’t been in the upper 20% of the population who have to mark their every move on that ridiculously complicated and byzantine tax code. My time and privacy mean more to me than to spend hours keeping books specifically for the government.

Perhaps we could come up with a system where people who enjoy being b-——s for a bunch of authoritarian a———s and wasting hundreds of hours a year under the whips of a bunch of ignorant, effete, and officious bastards could opt for that, instead of just simply paying straight taxes.

Cain would negotiate the numbers, and by the way, his 9 9 9 would include that for Social Security, etc. I didn’t see that added in to your figures.


284 posted on 10/09/2011 8:22:03 PM PDT by Nucluside (ready)
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To: RoosterRedux
Correct. My understanding about Baptists (both from friends who are and services I've attended) is that they are a pretty diverse bunch. One school is tied fairly closely to the mainline Protestant sects. Another is tied more closely to the originalist anabaptist movement who, back in the 15th thru 17th centuries were targeted by Catholic and the emerging Protestant sect powers alike.

Originalists among the anabaptist movement do not, in fact, consider themselves to be part of the Protestant movement at all since they never bought into the state church thing dating back to the time of Emperor Constantine.

Jan Hus is the most famous of the anabaptist martyrs. However, there is ample evidence that Roger Williams, the American icon of religious freedom, had anabaptist leanings as well.

285 posted on 10/09/2011 8:27:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TomGuy
Running a corporation is much different than being president of the Nation.

This is the kind of statement psychologist Paul Meehl identified and called a 'barnum statement." It sounds uniquely meaningful but could be applied almost anywhere about any subject.

"Being a general is much different than being a President."(Washington, Eisenhower) "Being a Secretary of State is much different than being President"( Jefferson, Madison, Monroe). Being a movie actor is much different than being President(Reagan).

Maybe we should stick with governors like Clinton and Carter. Should have given Dukakis a try. All that "political experience" really paid off for the nation.

286 posted on 10/09/2011 8:35:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nucluside
You obviously haven’t been in the upper 20% of the population who have to mark their every move on that ridiculously complicated and byzantine tax code. My time and privacy mean more to me than to spend hours keeping books specifically for the government.

What makes you so sure of that.

Cain would negotiate the numbers, and by the way, his 9 9 9 would include that for Social Security, etc. I didn’t see that added in to your figures.

Then read it again. I pointed out that the average family of 4 with the median income likely pays nothing but FICA, currently at 5.65%. So Cain's plan is an income tax increase on them right off the bat. Add to that the 9% sales tax on virtually everything they buy and it more than doubles their federal taxes.

288 posted on 10/10/2011 4:35:03 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: TomGuy

Reducing Herman Cain to a “Pizza Delivery” man just shows your ignorance,or perhaps bias.


289 posted on 10/10/2011 4:53:03 AM PDT by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: TomGuy

“running a corporation is much different than being president of the Nation.” How is it much different? To run a corporation you need to be a problem-solver. To run this country you need to be a problem-solver.

A good problem-solver can solve problems... wherever they are. We need a problem-solver to run this country because the current president has created more problems than he has solved. He is not a problem-solver. He’s the last of the big spenders (of our tax money).

Cain doesn’t need any political experience to solve problems. That’s a major misconception that many people have.


290 posted on 10/11/2011 11:14:21 PM PDT by oldbiker1 (We need an experienced problem-solver.)
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To: JDW11235

Perhaps, but were they generals?


291 posted on 10/12/2011 12:38:25 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: SoJoCo

FICA is not 5.65%. It is 7.65% x 2 = 15.30% IIRC.


292 posted on 10/12/2011 12:43:51 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: PghBaldy
FICA is not 5.65%. It is 7.65% x 2 = 15.30% IIRC.

Check your paycheck. The employee contribution has been 5.65% since the first of the year.

293 posted on 10/12/2011 4:21:49 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: PghBaldy
FICA is not 5.65%. It is 7.65% x 2 = 15.30% IIRC.

Check your paycheck. The employee contribution has been 5.65% since the first of the year.

294 posted on 10/12/2011 4:22:03 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: PghBaldy

I couple of them were.


295 posted on 10/12/2011 10:36:38 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: SoJoCo

My crooked brother pays me as an “outside contractor,” he doesn’t take out the taxes.


296 posted on 10/13/2011 2:20:41 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: PghBaldy
My crooked brother pays me as an “outside contractor,” he doesn’t take out the taxes.

Then if everyone worked for a crooked brother then everyone would make out under the 9-9-9 plan.

297 posted on 10/13/2011 4:11:58 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

That’s good to know. (as an aside, my brother is a sociopath and has no contact with anyone in family including me-)


298 posted on 10/13/2011 8:40:10 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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