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Haredim threaten to boycott Mamilla Mall
Ynet News ^ | 25 Dec 2010 | Ari Galahar

Posted on 12/26/2010 9:28:42 PM PST by BlackVeil

The ultra-Orthodox community is threatening to boycott Jerusalem's luxurious Mamilla shopping complex due to electric ornaments resembling Christmas lights, which have been placed along the boulevard.

Wall posters calling on the public to boycott the mall's stores began appearing in haredi neighborhoods several days after the ornaments were placed in the shopping complex.

The ads – titled "Is Jerusalem becoming Christian?" – were signed by the Rabbis' Committee for the Sanctity of Jerusalem. They stated that "if this idol worship is not removed immediately, we will declare a consumer boycott against the mall and the Mamilla Hotel, owned by businessman Alfred Akirov."

The haredim are troubled by the fact that the Mamilla Boulevard is one of the most pleasant ways to reach the Western Wall, prompting tens of thousands of Jews to cross the mall on their way to the holy site, "forcibly exposing them to real paganism".

The shopping complex's management clarified that it had nothing against the haredi or religious public and was willing to cover the light bulbs with a large cloth if they violated Jewish Law in any way.

"Every year, from before Hanukkah through February, we light up the boulevard with these lamps in order to begin the holiday of Hanukkah with a lot of light, and then continue with the lights throughout the winter," explained the Mamilla Mall CEO.

"Because I don't wish to hurt anyone, I agreed to first of all remove the green plastic, which was aimed at covering the electricity system's cables, and because they interpreted it in a completely different way I decided to remove it. I apologize if I have caused anyone injustice."

According to the CEO, Christmas trees were never placed in the mall and will never be seen there.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; waronchristmas
What sort of "threat" is that? The luxury shopping mall is going to be boycotted by angry, miserable, heavily dressed religious types. A disproportionate number of whom are on welfare.
1 posted on 12/26/2010 9:28:48 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Total annihilation by Muslims..... pretty little lights from suspected Christians...

which is the bigger threat??

decisions, decisions!!


2 posted on 12/26/2010 9:32:44 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: BlackVeil

Can Israel really afford to keep these people as pets for much longer? Take them off the damn dole and make them work for a living!


3 posted on 12/26/2010 9:33:13 PM PST by sinanju
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To: BlackVeil

Looks like garland on upper right and Saint Nick on upper left to me.

4 posted on 12/26/2010 9:34:56 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be ustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: BlackVeil

Unfortunately, most Jewish children in Israel aren’t taught a thing about Christmas or Christianity.


5 posted on 12/26/2010 9:35:41 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: sinanju
Take them off the damn dole ...

There is a distinct tone, in that ad., of a group of men who badly need to go and get jobs.

6 posted on 12/26/2010 9:38:06 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

“the Rabbis’ Committee for the Sanctity of Jerusalem”

These folks need to get a real life...


7 posted on 12/26/2010 9:41:32 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
due to electric ornaments resembling Christmas lights
Oh no, can the economy take the hit?!? ;') Thanks BlackVeil.


8 posted on 12/26/2010 9:41:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: BlackVeil

Wow... you mean they are actually not going to blow the place up? How civilized.


9 posted on 12/26/2010 9:46:36 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

I think you have the Jews mixed up with the Moslems.


10 posted on 12/26/2010 10:19:32 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: BlackVeil

11 posted on 12/26/2010 10:29:42 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Amberdawn

Which, doubtless, is for fear that some might understand Christianity to be a logical or reasonable religion.

Just what are the Hanukkah lights supposed to be “idolizing” anyhow?


12 posted on 12/26/2010 10:48:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: sinanju; DManA; CynicalBear; M. Espinola; topcat54; ShadowAce; jy8z; The Theophilus; ...
Can Israel really afford to keep these people as pets for much longer? Take them off the damn dole and make them work for a living!

Can't say I really have a dog in this fight, other than the observation that work is a blessing that keeps a man sane. The old rabbis had a saying, "The man who tries to interpret scripture while not having a job will distort its meaning." (sorry, this is a third-hand paraphrase of something I think I read once. Correction welcome.

It's strange though -- an atheist, or one of these fanatical and malignant cultists, can be a Jew in good standing. A Jew who discovers Yeshua, however, "goes out to an evil culture" (is excommunicated).

13 posted on 12/27/2010 1:21:40 AM PST by RJR_fan (The press corpse is going through the final stages of Hopium withdrawal. That leg tingle is urine.)
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To: BlackVeil

Shouldn’t they stay out of malls and spend their time studying Torah (their one and only raison d’etre on this earth according to them) anyway?


14 posted on 12/27/2010 4:43:08 AM PST by Cecily
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To: upchuck
I think you have the Jews mixed up with the Moslems.

That was not my intent. I was aiming to contrast the protesting styles of these civilized Jews vs. the protest styles of the uncivilized barbarian Palestinian savages.

I apologize for the confusion.

15 posted on 12/27/2010 5:43:50 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: JoeProBono

I remember this street, thanks for posting it. You have a Happy New Year.


16 posted on 12/27/2010 5:56:17 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: RJR_fan
The more accurate view of work from the Historical Christian point of view is that it is one aspect of Adam's Curse. No?

work is a blessing that keeps a man sane

17 posted on 12/27/2010 6:58:25 AM PST by DManA
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To: GeronL; BlackVeil
Total annihilation by Muslims..... pretty little lights from suspected Christians...

Perhaps from a purely rationalistic, secular perspective this makes no sense. But from the viewpoint of Divine Law it most certainly does.

18 posted on 12/27/2010 7:01:51 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Bo' 'el-Par`oh; ve'amarta 'elayv, koh 'amar HaShem, shallach 'et-`ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: DManA
Well, the ground was cursed for our sake. By making it harder for us to provide for our families, God provided a character-building mechanism. This reverses, to a limited extent, the damage done to us and to our environment by the Fall.
19 posted on 12/27/2010 7:14:30 AM PST by RJR_fan (The press corpse is going through the final stages of Hopium withdrawal. That leg tingle is urine.)
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To: BlackVeil

Every freeper should know that “Black Veil” loves to post anti-Jewish and anti-Israel stuff. He lives nice and comfortable and atheistically in Australia and presumes to judge Israel a nation surrounded by 200 million hostile Muslims. He despises the religious Jews in Israel. I have religious cousins in Israel and have visited them and hung out with what Mr BlackVeil would condemn as the ultra-religious Haredi. They are very nice modest people who don’t live extravagantly. Their children don’t get spoiled, are so happy with the simplest toys and don’t get many of them. The women cook delicious food with Mediterranean influences... I ate in their homes.

BlackVeil— Plus you also teach in University. What a shock. If I am wrong about this Mr BlackHearted BlackVeil then let me know

Me— A Jewish American who supports all who fight against the worldwide Jihad and that includes Israel, the Serbs, Russians, Filipinos, Thais, Hindus etc. I never liked the communists and now it is the Muslim threat with the ChiComs also a big problem. Putin Russia is also very irritating


20 posted on 12/27/2010 7:16:42 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: RJR_fan

Is the threat of hell a character building exercise too?


21 posted on 12/27/2010 7:21:30 AM PST by DManA
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To: JoeProBono

So that’s it? Very nice. I recall reading that the “Jerusalem”-style architecture is such that you look at many buildings and think they are centuries old when they might go back only a few decades.

So it was the Christmas decorations the Haredim cannot abide? I guess they keep the window mannequins conservatively attired.


22 posted on 12/27/2010 9:18:57 AM PST by sinanju
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To: dennisw
Excellent post! Let him keep posting these things.....HaShem will deal with him.

Seems some Freepers freak-out about Xmas lights/trees in Israel, but tell the rest of the world not to dictate how the Jewish State should operate.

23 posted on 12/27/2010 9:21:22 AM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: papabrody

Thanks much! And I will be reposting this when BlackHearted BlackVeil posts more anti-Israel drek. The boy just can’t help himself. He’s like your average lefty with their promotion of Palestinian Jihad against Israel.


24 posted on 12/27/2010 11:54:22 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

Thanks for the info on our “friend,” dw.


25 posted on 12/27/2010 1:07:50 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Bo' 'el-Par`oh; ve'amarta 'elayv, koh 'amar HaShem, shallach 'et-`ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The ignorance of Jewish kids in state run schools is due more to the curricula, for the Orthodax, it’s purposeful. They don’t want their kids exposed to other religions period.


26 posted on 12/27/2010 2:45:35 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Orthodox, sorry. My point being that there are chauvinists in every religion.


27 posted on 12/27/2010 2:49:18 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: dennisw

Are you laughing at me? Anyway, of course I am not a young man, I am a middle-aged lady professor.

Everyone knows that.

Shall post what I like.

And stop being such a snob about Australia. It is a fine place. An Australian, Professor Indyk, went over and even was Israeli ambassador from Washington - and his accent was no better than mine.

This article is, in fact, a respectably sourced article from the Israeli national news service.


28 posted on 12/28/2010 2:11:13 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: DManA; RJR_fan

It seems inexplicable that so many of the Hassidic Jews in Israel are welfare dependent and even socially marginalised, when this is not the case in Western nations - there, they have extremely low rates of unemployment, and indeed are often prosperous.

There are a lot of factors here, but one is that it is virtually impossible to get a proper job in Israel - as a man - unless one has done military service. A great many of the Hassidic Jews prefer not to. Once they reach the age of 40, this requirement is lifted - but 20 years of unemployment is a bad start to participation in the workforce.

Ultimately, Israel might have have to drop compulsory, universal military service. As it is, the waves of exemptions are getting higher, more and more don’t serve, and it seems to be dividing the country.


29 posted on 12/28/2010 2:20:13 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
 

You are really tripping on yourself. Since when would Israel ever take advice from a nasty guy like you? They’ll get along just fine without you. The prayers of the Haredi reach Hashem and defend Israel same as the IDF and IAF. It is irrelevant whether you sitting in nice comfortable irrelevant Australia believe this or not.

I hope you have some kind of purpose and meaning in your life in aimless, beach loving, beer swilling Australia. Because the Jews of Israel have many, one of which is survival in a hostile sea of Muslims

I got an idea for you Mr. BlackHeart. Instead of obsessing over a million or so fundamentalist Jews in Israel why not take up a new hobby. Why not educate yourself about the very real threat of fundamentalist Islam which is 300 times larger that any body of fundamentalist Jews. But when I see your posting record this is not a concern of yours

In a way the Jew obsession of guys like you is a compliment. You are magnetically attracted to Israel by forces you do not know. Jerusalem is the City of David (King David), is the center of the world, and this gravitational field is pulling you in. Dittos for the Muslim Arabs who claim Jerusalem as theirs even though it is never mentioned in the Koran.

 

 

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30 posted on 12/28/2010 6:53:28 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: BlackVeil

Are you laughing at me? Anyway, of course I am not a young man, I am a middle-aged lady professor.>>>>>>

A Jew obsessed Aussie nutbag


31 posted on 12/28/2010 6:57:54 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
I have no dog in this fight, but it seems you are the angry one, Dennisw. Just an observation, not an attack. Take it FWIW. If you think I'm wrong, I respect your opinion.

CC

32 posted on 01/02/2011 4:50:27 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Good heavens Miss Takamoto, You're beautiful!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I’m angry so what. Lets say you are Irish. How would you feel if I liked to post trash about Ireland and the Catholic clergy?

Black Veil is just an Israel hating university professor. Very common these days


33 posted on 01/02/2011 8:12:38 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
Dude, the anti Catholic thing goes on her at FR often, until the mods tell them to knock it off. I just refuse to get sucked into anothers hatred. They think what they think,and I think what I think. To Me their hatred and ignorance are their handicap,not mine. But for future reference, I was told in a college sociology course to look closely at an argument. Whoever is yelling the loudest is usually the one losing.

CC

34 posted on 01/02/2011 8:46:43 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Good heavens Miss Takamoto, You're beautiful!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

There are one billion plus Catholics in the world. You would not feel the same way if there were only 14 million. There are 6 million Jews in Israel and 14 million worldwide

I can’t think of any Catholic country that is surrounded by 300 million hostiles who despise them because they are of another faith. This is Isreal’s situation

I’ll bet there are 75-100 million Irish Catholics in this world when you include Americans, Canadians, New Zealanders, Australians, Brits of Irish extraction


35 posted on 01/02/2011 11:22:38 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Dunno if you are Irish but maybe someday you will have a chance to read this book by an Irishman who was a great friend of Israel
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http://www.amazon.com/Siege-Saga-Israel-Zionism/dp/0671633104
great book on the history of Israel, December 27, 1998

This review is about: The Siege: The Saga of Israel and Zionism (Paperback)
So how did Conor Cruise O’Brien, a born-and-bred Irishman, come to be writing a history of Israel? As he tells it, the United Nations used to seat its delegates alphabetically: and so he, representing Ireland, found himself sitting right between Israel and Iraq. This began his interest in the history of Israel, and his research eventually produced this fantastic book — well-written, well-researched, and a pleasure to read. The subject matter itself is pretty interesting, and O’Brien has so many great turns-of-phrase that I found myself underlining as I went along. This book is highly recommended to anyone who wants to find out more about how Israel came to be.


36 posted on 01/02/2011 11:27:53 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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