Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Racism or reality?
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | March 20, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 03/20/2010 5:25:53 PM PDT by Graybeard58

African-Americans are overrepresented in America's prisons while whites and Asians are underrepresented. Is this a case of racism by police, judges and juries; or are black Americans more likely to commit felonies?

The statistics don't lie: African-Americans comprise 13 percent of the U.S. population, but 40 percent of all homicide victims are black, and 93 percent of their killers also are black.

It's no mystery; about two-thirds of black children live in homes without fathers, a sure formula for poverty and poor discipline during their upbringing. So why is the Obama administration seeking out racial disparities in the disciplining of black and white students in public schools, with an eye toward levying fines and other enforcement actions?

Faced with disparate numbers of students of one race or another that cause disciplinary problems, school officials have a choice between inflicting harsh discipline on well-behaved groups, or ignoring misbehavior by those that cause the most problems, just to equalize the statistics and throw the feds off the scent. We can't think of a more feckless approach to bringing about a safe, orderly learning environment in the schools.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-36 last
To: freedumb2003

“Its the system , man, we have to do our afri-american thang, its our identity and a tradition we have to uphold!”


21 posted on 03/20/2010 6:19:14 PM PDT by himno hero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Trod Upon

“All you have to look at is the violent crime committed by blacks against blacks in majority black areas and compare that to the per capita rates of other ethnic groups in areas they dominate. The race pimps won’t like the answers that bit of research will provide. It’s politically incorrect but, taken as a group, blacks are the most likely of any Americans to commit violent crimes.”

But the crime rate of any ethnicity shows the exact same pattern when poverty is also considered. Any ethnic group everywhere around the world (blacks, whites, asian, hispanic, et.al.) that has higher rates of poverty show proportionately higher rates of crime as perpetrators, victims, and inmates.

The real issue is not primarily of ethnicity, it is of poverty. The reality is that welfare handouts don’t fix poverty yet that’s just about all that liberal governments seem to want to do, instead of doing the hard work of incentivising family unit cohesion, good education outcomes, and job opportunities.


22 posted on 03/20/2010 6:20:04 PM PDT by AussieJoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
I suspected that is why our family was blessed with good teeth and gums, thanks for helping with that.

Oh by the way ,maybe you can explain why all the women, ya know, aunts, grannies and cousins, all had those big breasts and when they crushed you into their bosoms during a big hug I always detected the smell of roses and gardenias. Damndest thing!

23 posted on 03/20/2010 6:33:30 PM PDT by carmelanne (State and County Republican party leaders, your all finished.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: carmelanne

We count on good dentists ~ did you realize that the Japanese-American population in the United States has possibly the largest percentage of dentists of any group on Earth.


24 posted on 03/20/2010 6:35:20 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

One of Obama’s plans is to release all blacks/minorities imprisoned for drug offenses. He’s already declared them ‘entrepreneurs’. So the idea is to put them in charge of his fatigue clad youth army. You remember those darling kids. Marching around, chanting Obama, with fists in the air. Fascism redux.


25 posted on 03/20/2010 6:36:22 PM PDT by hershey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

Black Americans will not be free of racism until they adopt strict “classism”. Respectable, responsible, and educated black Americans must perpetually distinguish themselves from irresponsible, criminal and uneducated black Americans.

This is terribly frustrating to middle and upper class black Americans. After much hard work and discipline, even living in integrated neighborhoods with other ethnic groups, they still have no “recognition” of their success.

It is an irony that among white people, especially, achieving the middle and upper classes is greeted with being ignored. Being left alone. But black Americans see it as a snub.

And there is no way for black Americans to show that they are cultured, erudite, and tasteful. As compared to some tacky, noveau riche black person, who uses their money to buy a gold and diamond “grill” for their teeth, and who sucks down bottle of Cristal champagne, the most expensive champagne you can buy in a truck stop.

So cultured and polite black Americans need some decoration to distinguish them from lower class blacks. And it must be recognized and respected by non-blacks.


26 posted on 03/20/2010 6:49:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

“We can’t think of a more feckless approach to bringing about a safe, orderly learning environment in the schools.”

We can’t either.

Thanks for the ping Graybeard.


27 posted on 03/20/2010 7:09:42 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: AussieJoe
The real issue is not primarily of ethnicity, it is of poverty. The reality is that welfare handouts don’t fix poverty yet that’s just about all that liberal governments seem to want to do, instead of doing the hard work of incentivising family unit cohesion, good education outcomes, and job opportunities.

This is because they have adopted and are mindlessly following the Marxist revolutionary edict of destroying the family to subvert capitalist society without understanding the origins or purpose of that agenda. The result is that they are destabilizing whichever stable society might potentially exist. Effing Leftist idiots.

28 posted on 03/20/2010 7:12:19 PM PDT by Post Toasties
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Post Toasties

And I should add that the less scrupulous in the Left don’t have a problem with establishing a dependent class with handouts, something that has worked very well for them politically so far.


29 posted on 03/20/2010 7:16:12 PM PDT by Post Toasties
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Post Toasties

Just this week our local paper had an article praising the valedictorian and salutorian in the regional high school. I live in an outer suburban area of one of the larger US cities, btw. One of them was black, Christian and was apparently born in Africa. I really wish there was more of this kind of news about education rather than the kind that is talked about in whispers.


30 posted on 03/20/2010 7:23:17 PM PDT by Post Toasties
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003

Don’t worry, the Obama administration and 111th Congress will create whole new classes of crimes, so we can all be criminals!


31 posted on 03/20/2010 7:36:20 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: AussieJoe
But the crime rate of any ethnicity shows the exact same pattern when poverty is also considered. Any ethnic group everywhere around the world (blacks, whites, asian, hispanic, et.al.) that has higher rates of poverty show proportionately higher rates of crime as perpetrators, victims, and inmates.

I think you'll find higher violent crime rates among blacks even controlling for socioeconomic factors, at least it was years ago when I was looking at such things. Apples to apples, yes crime generally goes up in poorer areas, but apples to oranges you still get greater overall rates across the spectrum in certain ethnic groups. There's either a cultural problem or something else. For example, poverty doesn't really explain terrorism. In that case, people at every stratum are driven to acts of murder primarily by Islam rather than economic factors.
32 posted on 03/20/2010 8:30:30 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Trod Upon

“I think you’ll find higher violent crime rates among blacks even controlling for socioeconomic factors, at least it was years ago when I was looking at such things. Apples to apples, yes crime generally goes up in poorer areas, but apples to oranges you still get greater overall rates across the spectrum in certain ethnic groups. There’s either a cultural problem or something else. For example, poverty doesn’t really explain terrorism. In that case, people at every stratum are driven to acts of murder primarily by Islam rather than economic factors.”

That’s interesting, If you happen to have any links to the research I’d be interested in reading it (not doubting you, but genuinely interested in the research). I’d also be very interested in getting my wife’s feedback on it as she working towards her postgrad in criminology.

The question of root causality behind terrorism is such a complex and emotive one that I wouldn’t even hazard a guess. I think it’s just too easy for the individual’s own ideological framework to come into play when trying to find an objective answer.


33 posted on 03/20/2010 11:39:43 PM PDT by AussieJoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Post Toasties

Just watch the show Lockup on MSNBC. Almost 99% of the inmates had an absent dad, or one who was locked up in jail.Not the best role models for kids, no matter what the race. And the predominance seems to be in black families. No dad to teach a young son how to behave and you get a young thug who starts ripping off people at the age of 10.


34 posted on 03/20/2010 11:45:51 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: centurion316
The answer is yes, but it has noting to do with race. It has to do with a culture nurtured and subsidized by liberals that destroyed the family, corrupted the schools, enabled widespread drug abuse, and pretended that nothing was going on.

Excellent points. Liberals create a culture that pretends there are no consequences to actions...but that isn't reality.

35 posted on 03/21/2010 3:32:47 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Happiness doesn't come from owning something; it comes from being a part of something)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: hershey

” So the idea is to put them in charge of his fatigue clad youth army.”

These are the guys who hold their glocks sideways. I’m writing a training manual for them, telling that if you hold your glock by your side and swing your arm up, around and forward like a pitcher delivering a fastball, that the bullets will come out faster.


36 posted on 03/21/2010 6:19:37 AM PDT by sergeantdave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-36 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson