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SETI Invites Alien Talk ("I see unseen cosmic entities")
CEH ^ | May 24, 2009

Posted on 05/25/2009 9:07:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

SETI Invites Alien Talk 

May 24, 2009 — They may not be saying much to us, but we can think about what to say to them – aliens, that is.  Space.com reported on the latest project from the SETI Institute: invite people all over the world to ponder, “What would you say to an extraterrestrial civilization?”    

The SETI Institute is launching a new website, Earth Speaks, to gather people’s ideas about what we should say to an alien civilization should contact be made.  “By submitting text messages, pictures, and sounds from across the globe,” CEO Thomas Pierson explained, “people from all walks of life will contribute to a dialogue about what humanity might say to intelligent beings on other worlds.”  So far it’s a monologue, but people have been recording all kinds of trivial things that might be included in our first care package – sounds of walking on stairs, rattling of bracelets, the sizzle of grilled chicken.  The website opens with internet tags on a “web cloud” that will grow in size as items become popular.    

A debate rages on how to respond to aliens.  What if they are hostile?  Should we reveal too much about ourselves?  The SETI Institute is not planning to send a message – just get people talking about what they would say.  Perhaps the Institute takes a default position similar to that expressed by SETI father Frank Drake, who once said we might as well try to be friendly.  Indeed, friendship and hope are some of the popular themes on Earth Speaks.  Pierson said, “Through Earth Speaks, the SETI Institute also hopes to foster an open and thoughtful debate about the pros and cons of sending messages to other worlds.”  The report ended:

Earth Speaks is founded on the belief that first impressions matter, especially when there is no quick way to correct them – which could well be the case when your partner in conversation lives trillions of miles away.  Indeed, the initial messages we send to an extraterrestrial civilization could set the tone for a conversation lasting hundreds or thousands of years.  It is only fitting, then, that as we ponder how we would represent humankind to another civilization, the decision should be made by people around the world.
It’s too late to control our first impressions, though.  Episodes of I Love Lucy have probably been leaking out at the speed of light for decades.  Broadcast TV, the Arecibo Message, and the Voyager Records are already out there.  Former president Jimmy Carter wrote to the space inhabitants on the Voyager record that “We hope someday, having solved the problems we face, to join a community of galactic civilizations.”  The aliens, our friends, could be on the way in their flying saucers any time now, carrying a book, How to Serve Man.

Exercise: compare and contrast this program with pagan religion.  There are powerful, unseen cosmic entities all around us.  We don’t know who they are, or how powerful they are, or what they are thinking, but we must offer supplications to them to appease them.  We need to let them know we wish to stay on their good side, lest they destroy us.  Our shamans at the SETI Institute, who consult and peep and mutter, decide what offerings are needed.  The offerings go nowhere but at least make us feel good.    

These are the same people, you recall, who ridicule Christians for communicating with Someone who has communicated – and even visited, bringing a message of love, grace, and salvation.  But this is different.  This is Science.  Now stop complaining.  Go to the website and make your offering.

Next headline on:  SETIDumb Ideas



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; belongsinreligion; catholic; christian; creation; evolution; godgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; notanewstopic; science; seti
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1 posted on 05/25/2009 9:07:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Finny; vladimir998; Coyoteman; allmendream; LeGrande; GunRunner; cacoethes_resipisco; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/25/2009 9:08:03 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think friendly is our only choice. If a civilization is advanced enough to reach us, we don’t stand a snowball’s chance in you know where to resist if they’re hostile. Play the cards we’re given right now.


3 posted on 05/25/2009 9:10:45 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I have many conversations with my friends deep inside the earth.


4 posted on 05/25/2009 9:11:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: All

Best-In-Field-Fallacy

5 posted on 05/25/2009 9:13:05 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
“What would you say to an extraterrestrial civilization?”

Wanna trade?

6 posted on 05/25/2009 9:15:08 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Any civilization advanced enough to reach us would probably treat us the same way we treated the indians when we arrived here. Only more so


7 posted on 05/25/2009 9:15:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unabel to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: GodGunsGuts

I had some of the same thoughts the author had. My first thought of what to say was: “Even though this is a huge waste of time, since you don’t exist aliens in this time and space, and we haven’t heard from you, and have no reason to believe you exist . . . Jesus may love you. You’ll have to ask him for the details.”


8 posted on 05/25/2009 9:16:27 AM PDT by Woebama (Paying for my neighbor's mortgage and Wall Street's bonuses sure is hard.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
“What would you say to an extraterrestrial civilization?”

I taste really, really awful...

9 posted on 05/25/2009 9:17:25 AM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well we are in a kind of cosmically empty area of the neighborhood.

Should be about a 70 lightyear sphere around the earth of existing broadcasts. Our only hope of detecting anything would probably be similiar. We would suddenly pick up the equivalent of a alien radio variety hour.


10 posted on 05/25/2009 9:19:07 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Whatever we say, it should be in Spanish if we are talking to aliens.


11 posted on 05/25/2009 9:19:39 AM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: GodGunsGuts

What I’d say...

I ask you, how can we, as symbolically the children of the future aliens, expect you to meet our needs, the needs in housing and in crime and you name it.

Yup, that’s what I’d say.


12 posted on 05/25/2009 9:29:19 AM PDT by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"What would you say to an extraterrestrial civilization?”

Take my wife President, - PLEASE!
And Congress, too.

13 posted on 05/25/2009 9:47:47 AM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right, and everyone's responsibility.)
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To: All
They would probably have an ALMOST indecipherable book entitle "To Serve Man".
14 posted on 05/25/2009 9:53:57 AM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Same thing we tell our own aliens....Go Home!


15 posted on 05/25/2009 9:56:44 AM PDT by wolfcreek ( The Republican Party shouldnÂ’t open itself like a whorehouse to new voters)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Salamander
In comparing the possibilities of alien contact with Divine Revelation, I am reminded of an "earthy" saying often uttered by an old friend of mine, who happened to be a Cajun.


"Boy, you jus' steppin' over dollars to pick up nickels."
16 posted on 05/25/2009 10:01:11 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: shibumi

That’s awesome! I have just incorporated that into my list of wise sayings :o)


17 posted on 05/25/2009 10:02:53 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

A waste of time and money.


18 posted on 05/25/2009 10:02:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Salamander

The aliens have already arrived and are living in our midst.

They can be ientified by their aspiration to high public office and their lack of Birth Certificates.

(Anybody got any bubblegum? No? well then i guess it’s time.....)


19 posted on 05/25/2009 10:05:10 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: onedoug

SETI is a waste of money. The Drake equation is an example of creative pop culture mathematics with little scientific value.


20 posted on 05/25/2009 10:09:34 AM PDT by GunRunner
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