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George Will: Racing Past the Constitution
townhall.com ^ | April 12, 2009 | George Will

Posted on 04/12/2009 7:29:21 AM PDT by kellynla

Edited on 04/12/2009 7:34:58 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Rampant redistribution of wealth by government is now the norm. So is this: It inflames government's natural rapaciousness and subverts the rule of law. This degeneration of governance is illustrated by the Illinois Legislature's transfer of income from some disfavored riverboat casinos to racetracks.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; constitution; georgewill; porky; spreadthewealth; vichyrepublican
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To: wintertime
I disagree. It depends on where you live as far as the schools are concerned. We live in West Seneca, NY (near Buffalo a very democrat area) and the schools in my town are very good. The town still puts up a manger scene in front of Town Hall every year at Christmas.

The public schools here are very good and turn out good citizens. My kids went to CCD classes for religion and all are very conservative just like the old man.

So it really does depend on two things, where you live and the involvement of the parents.

41 posted on 04/12/2009 10:28:48 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: mc5cents; wintertime; rbg81
There was a time when the percentage of schools were mostly like yours. If any of that is left, it's there on the last wave of the past.

And rust never sleeps. As wintertime notes, schools come under federal and state regulation. Some districts may be more accountable to regional preferences, but the meaning of public is not just that you come out OK. What is the meaning of "public education." Carefully consider what winterime said: "there is never a religious vacuum." This doesn't mean private or parochial education is sufficient to restore educational health. Very often mere ambition to counter is emotion without knowledge, fist-fighting without a head. For any forms of resistance there will ever be a temptation to seize the seats of power. Ask Frodo what it means to carry the ring.

42 posted on 04/12/2009 10:50:24 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: bray

Exactly, Will is a Vichy Republican, let us not also forget that he was among the select group of ersatz “Conservative Columnists” who had dinner with Obama and no one spoke about what was said at the meeting.

Will, Noonan, Brooks...Vichy Republicans one and all.


43 posted on 04/12/2009 11:22:57 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: kellynla

bfl


44 posted on 04/12/2009 11:24:30 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Good riddance, UAW.)
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To: Glenn
He's a one of a kind mind, I think.

I don't know. He seems part of the less than special group of apparent conservatives that couldn't see the most obvious thing last fall; that Obama is a radical leftist. He spent his whole life acting smart, but he gave in to the fashion of the day. His behavior was no different than the teenage girl that sucks up to the popular but deranged popular girl just to fit in. One of a kind? More like dime a dozen.

45 posted on 04/12/2009 2:11:29 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn
One of a kind? More like dime a dozen.

You're following the crowd.

46 posted on 04/12/2009 2:12:59 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Glenn
You're following the crowd.

It's Mr. Will that abandoned his stated principles and followed the crowd. Obviously, his damn-near endorsement of Obama didn't make the difference by itself. Still, his actions were deeply demoralizing; allowing the left to say "See, even George Will thinks Obama is the coollest". Unforgivable.

47 posted on 04/12/2009 2:24:27 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Huck

Have I argued this before with you?

When matters are considered, one should realize what led to the events at the time of the writing....the time of the Articles of Confederation. Our nation was failing.

Madison argued well on the Cod Fisheries issue; and won. If the Constitution were faulty, he would have lost.

The AntiFeds had points, but they never offered a good alternative government; they just complained about the lack of perfection and the problems that would have arisen from what was really any government. Human nature never changes.

More later....I’m going to the Laker’s game....4th row, center court. :^O


48 posted on 04/12/2009 3:20:38 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If Christians cannot unite in battle to save this nation, it will be lost)
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To: rbg81; mc5cents
The last thing I want public schools to do is touch religion.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Public schools are **not** religiously neutral.

**No** school is religiously neutral. I know that is hard for many to wrap their heads around. A religiously neutral school can not exist. It is axiomatic.

There is no such thing as a religious vacuum. Everyone ( and **all** schools) have a religious worldview. There are only 2 choices: godless or God-centered.

Both religious worldviews ( godless or God-centered) have non-neutral religious, political, and cultural consequences.

That is why government schools must be abolished. Government should never be in the business of **establishing** one religious worldview over another. It a First Amendment Right as well as human right.

If parents want an atheistic, secular humanist, Marxist oriented religious worldview for their children, then they should send their kid to a private atheistic school. They shouldn't expect taxpayers to pay for it. Neither should those wanting a God-centered education.

49 posted on 04/12/2009 4:30:32 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

The problem you run into with religion and public schools is WHOSE RELIGION do you advocate? Protestant? Catholic? Jewish? Muslim? You can’t win here. I have no problem with voluntary (no coerced) school prayer or vanilla references to God (like in the Pledge of Allegiance). Beyond that, you’re treading on very thin ice. Any demonination is going to feel slighted if they feel they are in any way subsidizing someone else’s religion being pushed down their kids throats.

Same thing goes with ideology.


50 posted on 04/12/2009 6:00:04 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: kellynla
That is one reason the U.S. Supreme Court should take the Illinois case and reject the preposterous idea that money is not property within the scope of the takings clause -- an idea that licenses legislative confiscations. Another and related reason why the court should take the case is to reconsider its 2005 ruling that rendered the "public purpose" requirement empty.

Could Kennedy make atonement for his idiocy in Kelo?

51 posted on 04/12/2009 6:38:04 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: rbg81

The problem you run into with religion and public schools is WHOSE RELIGION do you advocate? Protestant? Catholic? Jewish? Muslim? You can’t win here.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You forgot atheism.

And,....I agree with you. It is impossible to win. That is why government schools must be shut down.


52 posted on 04/12/2009 6:43:56 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Don Corleone

to clarify;

The Chicago machine is getting a bigger cut from the ponies than they were getting from the casinos.


53 posted on 04/12/2009 8:02:04 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: nathanbedford
The bleat of Winston Smith .....
54 posted on 04/12/2009 11:01:01 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: wintertime; rbg81
[rbg81] The problem you run into with religion and public schools is WHOSE RELIGION do you advocate? Protestant? Catholic? Jewish? Muslim? You can’t win here. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[wintertime] You forgot atheism.

Or as it is sometimes known, scientific materialism. Some of these materialist atheists like to refer to themselves as "Brights" (as a way of slandering theists) and do engage in polemic.

If scientists are going to declare themselves foursquare materialists and polemicists in metaphysics, then that creates a problem with the ubiquity of scientism in schools under the Establishment Clause.

55 posted on 04/12/2009 11:07:41 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Read Will’s awesome book on baseball, MEN AT WORK

Might be good but "Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty" is a better book.

:)

56 posted on 04/12/2009 11:17:43 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Rampant redistribution of wealth by government is now the norm. So is this: It inflames government's natural rapaciousness and subverts the rule of law.
Thanks neverdem.
57 posted on 04/13/2009 2:19:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: kellynla; Glenn; SunkenCiv; bamahead; socialismisinsidious; governsleastgovernsbest; Red Steel; ...

I’ve never thought of George Will as a constitutional scholar, but he nails this one. Perhaps the SCOTUS may finally dredge up the courage to put a bit of restraint on government picking winners and losers in the private sector.


58 posted on 04/13/2009 2:44:56 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Wash Post syndicate writers must be excerpted

I guess I understand about excerpting from the Washinton Post, but how would one know that George Will is a so-called "Wash Post syndicate writer" from the article posted at Townhall? If Townhall doesn't have to give obeisance to the Washington Post, why is FreeRepublic required to?

ML/NJ

59 posted on 04/13/2009 4:59:42 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: cookcounty
George Will has to tithe at the Church of Liberalism to keep his favored position. If he would stop selling out and retrieve his integrity he'd be a beacon once more as he was decades ago.
60 posted on 04/13/2009 5:31:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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