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me ^ | 08/11/2008 | me

Posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:00 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99

I recently recieved a welcome letter from my daughter's teacher. My daughter is going into kindergarden at a catholic school. The letter included the phrase "learning how to help save the planet" which of course means global warming. My wife and I believe that global warming is a hoax built on junk science.

I don't want my daughter brainwashed by this liberal bullcrap. what should I do?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Florida
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1 posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:02 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Don’t send her to a Roman Catholic school would be my first.


2 posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:36 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Take her out of Catholic School and send her to Public School.


3 posted on 08/11/2008 11:42:16 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Homeschool.


4 posted on 08/11/2008 11:42:53 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
The mere fact that you are concerned tells me you know what NOT to do
5 posted on 08/11/2008 11:42:53 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Request a switch of teachers.

And also — ignore the Roman Catholic Church bashers.

(And no, I am not remotely RC, and respectfully disagree with bits and pieces of its theology.)


6 posted on 08/11/2008 11:43:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan ("Jesse Jackson was an important figure; paving the way for Osama bin Laden to appear" -- Dan Rather)
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To: BibChr

Could be Orthodox. Stunned it took you so long to go anti-Papist.
Could you be any more hateful?


7 posted on 08/11/2008 11:43:20 AM PDT by steve8714 (Curtis Strange ruined a man better than himself.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Pick a different school, or homeschool


8 posted on 08/11/2008 11:43:43 AM PDT by devere
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Quit your job and homeschool.


9 posted on 08/11/2008 11:44:04 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

This may not be an option for you, but home schooling is the best thing you can do for your child IMO. Get connected to your state’s home schooling resource. They’ll have the lesson plans you need and the support to help you.

To have a teacher express that level of ignorance to me right off the bat, would infuriate me.

Political correctness will be the death of this nation.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 11:44:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501316/The-Pope-condemns-climate-change-prophets-doom.html

Send this to the new Teach..............


11 posted on 08/11/2008 11:44:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I recommend you drink heavily.


12 posted on 08/11/2008 11:44:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Oh yeah...public school is SOOOO much better. /s


13 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:04 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: BibChr

but I AM CATHOLIC.


14 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:15 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Hey There Obama, Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Tell her to giggle any time she hears specific global warming catch-phrases like “eco-”, “warming”, “Al Gore”, “rain forest”, and other such words.


15 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:32 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Rich countries are clean countries. Socialist and poor countries are dirty countries. Ask that she teach Capitalism and Free Markets. They are societies proven to clean up the environment.


16 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

If globull warming is the only brain washing they do you’re ahead of the game.


17 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:36 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Confront the teacher, and the principal.
Don’t let them shame or bully you. If they don’t relent, your daughter is in the wrong school.
Saving the World, that’s what Jesus came here for.
Saving the planet, that’s beyond the capability of men.


18 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:46 AM PDT by steve8714 (Curtis Strange ruined a man better than himself.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I’d contact the teacher and ask for the course content on “helping to save the planet” and specifically say you do not want your child force fed global warming nonsense. At least it gives the teacher a heads up that you’re keeping an eye on them and you can review whether the material is propaganda at the same time.


19 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:52 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

You go in there and tell her that you don’t believe that Global Warming has been scientifically proven and unless she can prove to you that it is a reality you don’t want your daughter coming home with that phrase in her vocabulary. Junk science is not on the curriculum.


20 posted on 08/11/2008 11:46:10 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Educate her, I went to a public school where they constantly tried to indoctrinate us into the faith of the left, but I had conversations with my mother about stuff from an early age.

Be a bigger influence, watch the news with them and when you see a junk story point it out, show them the error..

Ill never forget when I was nine and came home elated

Me: ‘Mom do you know that under communism everyone owns everything!, thats great’

Mom: ‘Thats nice honey, but you do realize is all that means is nobody owns anything right? After all could you alone decided what to do with a toy that everyone owns?’

My flirtation with left think ended that day..


21 posted on 08/11/2008 11:46:22 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

A different private school. I am not being sarcastic or flippant. I know it was probably important to pick a catholic private school for you, but the RCC in general has bought into the global warming hype. You need to get a good secular private school, or there are some good LC-MS (lutheran/missouri synod) schools out there that are conservative and don’t teach junk science.


22 posted on 08/11/2008 11:46:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Alter Kaker

great, so they can teach her fisting as personal expression?

no thanks.


23 posted on 08/11/2008 11:46:48 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Hey There Obama, Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?)
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To: steve8714

counter what she learns at school with your views.

My daughter is 6, and she started the global warming stuff last year. I sat her down and explained to her that not everything she learns in school is always right. I told her if she had any questions on what she learns in school to come to me or her mother and we will help explain it to her.

The way I look at it is she is going to have to deal with this junk her whole life, and its better to start teaching her now how to deal with these views.


24 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:07 AM PDT by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

This will take wisdom. Respecting and being good stewards of God’s green Earth is fine and Biblical. But you will need to know when to call out blatant propaganda. This is something I need to do also with the secretary/director of our Church who has an obama sticker on her car.


25 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:28 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

My children went through 12 years of Catholic school. I was often dismayed at some of the liberal nonsense that they were spoon fed. However, one of my children attended public high school for 1 semester and I couldn’t believe the overall difference in attitude, discipline and quality of education. My overall experience was very positive with the Catholic schools but keep a watchful eye and make sure you educate at home. Don’t forget, all teachers are coming out of education schools that are extremely liberal.


26 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:29 AM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Homeschooling


27 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:29 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Why not just let her be a little kid and go along with the other kids? By the time she’s old enough to understand what you are talking about, there will probably be a whole new take on the subject.


28 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:38 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: AppyPappy
I recommend you drink heavily.

Listen to him, he's pre-med.
29 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:39 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: Alter Kaker

She is going to get the same global warming crap in public school. Don’t send her to public school if you don’t have to, or unless you know the school she’d go to is a quality school teaching real science.


30 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
...the RCC in general has bought into the global warming hype....

LOL

31 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:48 AM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
First, I would teach her the truth and that it's ok for her to respectfully speak up when she disagrees about something.

Then I would talk to the principal. He/she may not be aware. New teachers can only teach what they have been taught . If that doesn't work...look for another school or home school.

32 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:56 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Don't assume learning “how to save the planet” means global warming.

The enviro lobby has recently succeeded in making these synonymous, but in the past they were not. Learn not to litter, to responsibly recycle (like the old newspaper drives), and to clean up the community (volunteering to clean off old river banks, etc.) are certainly a small part of a good curriculuum.

34 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:12 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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And BibChr is a completely disinterested poster when it comes to whether or not to give a child a Catholic education, of course. /s
35 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:15 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Why not talk to the teacher? If you and your wife express your dissatisfaction, it should have an impact. If it doesn't, go over her head.

I believe the public schools are much worse, if it's any consolation.

36 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz

easy for you to say. I own my own company and work 16 hours a day.


37 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:59 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Hey There Obama, Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Calm down, and if you’re very concerned about the content of the cirriculum related to saving the planet, find out exactly what that content is. At that level, it may be things you agree with, like not littering, and turning off lights when you leave the room. Who knows?


38 posted on 08/11/2008 11:49:28 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Why not ask the school exactly what they are teaching about this. Even if you don’t agree with the global warming hoopla, there’s nothing wrong with taking steps to help take care of the earth God gave us. Ask to see the curriculum.


39 posted on 08/11/2008 11:49:43 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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Facts about Algore's Inconvenient Truth.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html

40 posted on 08/11/2008 11:49:55 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Nuclear Elephant

Context, NE. Years of ridiculous, vitriolic context.


41 posted on 08/11/2008 11:50:06 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Perhaps point out to her teacher’s that the Envirowacko Movement is an “Earth worshiping” alternative religion which would like to replace Christianity while promoting Socialism and Marxism, which are very much enemies of the Catholic Church.

The teacher’s have been brainwashed. There’s a reason Moses threw down the original tablets when he saw the Israelites worshiping idols.

The Earth has become an idol.


42 posted on 08/11/2008 11:50:15 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
First, I'd ask what the basis of the teacher is making her claim.
Second, I would ask if the teacher has looked at all the dissention that is going on in the scientific community about Global Warming.
Third, I would ask if the teacher is going to TEACH all views, not just their personnal preference.
Fourth. I would ask the administration, local and Archdiosece if this is THEIR position.

If none of the answers are to you satisfaction I would be making a lot of calls to the Archbishop's office and the school administration about putting an end to this.

43 posted on 08/11/2008 11:50:21 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Leadership without experience is dangerous. - Lindsey Graham NO B.O.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Not everyone can home-school their children. A more conservative-oriented Christian private school might be the answer.

On the other hand, if you like everything else about the Catholic school except their stand on one or two issues, then I would recommend teaching your child what you want her to know about the “global climate crisis” (and other issues) at home, and explaining to her that she might hear different things at school about this but that on THIS issue you and your wife are correct and the school is not.

There are diplomatic ways to tell your child that someone else is full of sh!t on a given issue without coming right out and saying it, and children ARE capable of understanding this. Besides, she’s gotta find out sooner or later.

If the school is intellectually honest, perhaps they will even let you prepare and present to her class a short program giving the the other side of the issue.


44 posted on 08/11/2008 11:50:23 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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No offense, but I think if you have to ask then the problems don't end with the teacher/school.

I'm half convinced this is a troll post.


45 posted on 08/11/2008 11:51:06 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: AppyPappy

that doesn’t solve anything. trust me, I’ve tried.


46 posted on 08/11/2008 11:51:23 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Hey There Obama, Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?)
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To: AppyPappy

...I’d listen to him... he’s Pre-Med...


47 posted on 08/11/2008 11:51:51 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: al_c

“taking care of the earth God gave us” is the very angle the Envirowackos are using to gain control of our youth’s impressionable minds.

What about good old-fashioned “conservation?”


48 posted on 08/11/2008 11:52:00 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
earning how to help save the planet" which of course means global warming.

Not necessarily. I would ask specifically what they mean by this and how this is integrated into the curriculum before making any decisions to switch schools.

49 posted on 08/11/2008 11:52:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: I see my hands

BGR99 is not a troll.


50 posted on 08/11/2008 11:52:30 AM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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