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If McCain wins the nomination, will you support him?
01.09.08 | perdogg

Posted on 01/09/2008 8:11:46 AM PST by Perdogg

1) Vote for McCain

2) Vote Dims - Kevorkian vote

3) Don't vote

4) Third party?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; marines; mccain; nh2008; vanity
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To: tortdog
"I sure hope the Democrats have a bunch of like-minded voters (refusing to support a Demo candidate if their guy loses)."

If you guys nominate McCain, then I never was one of "you're guys". Pretty much that simple

1,001 posted on 01/10/2008 6:10:15 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: Lloyd227

No, I am going to teach America a lesson and let Hillary run the country for 4-8 years. /sarc


1,002 posted on 01/10/2008 6:12:17 AM PST by barryg
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To: Lloyd227

It’s called being part of a movement, with various sets of mind within that movement. People who refuse to support anything that doesn’t do everything that THEY want (especially when we are talking about a community of tens of millions of people) really are quite selfish.

That’s just my view.


1,003 posted on 01/10/2008 6:13:14 AM PST by tortdog
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To: TigersEye

I haven’t ever screamed it. I am not a McCain fan in the least. Hillary is evil.


1,004 posted on 01/10/2008 6:28:54 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I have as much right as you or anyone else to espouse my opinions on Free Republic and help to educate and shape the outcome of the nomination process. It will take a heck of a lot more than a few disgruntled hot heads on FR to suppress my rights! “The republicans don’t go out and select the candidates. The candidates choose to run.” They “choose” to run... but the media and the party machine seems to be selecting the winner from among this group. The polling debacle is a prime example of their biased machinations failing them.

Okay, I apologize for calling you an idiot. I did consider the statement about you being attacked as wrong.

Now, I do like your choice of voting uncommited. There are many on this thread that say they will not vote or vote 3rd party to teach the Repubs a lesson. I think that is completely idiotic.

I do not see how we can give the dims a chance to screw us for decades through the USSC. I don't like McCain as much as you do, but the alternative is much worse.

I believe the media has done more to select our candidates than any other group. Now that we have the alternative media, we can at least get some influence. If Madam Satan is President, our voices will not be listened to. We stopped the Harriet Myers nomination and the amnesty bill. We would not be able to that with Madam Satan as President.

1,005 posted on 01/10/2008 6:29:29 AM PST by saminfl (,/i)
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To: Sonora
"So, in effect, a vote for Hillary or Obama?"

Ah crap, not this dead horse again. I'm of the opinion that I will now only vote for the best candidate, not a vote against anyone or a vote for someone who has the best chance to win. I'm sick and tired of the Republicans taking my vote for granted. IF they want a RINO for their nominee, I take my vote elsewhere. Hell, if Hillary or Barak get in at least I know what we are in store for. I'm sick of being let down time and time again by our so called Conservative Republicans. If it's time to "blow up" the system then I'm all for it. The last time the Republicans actually did anything worth talking about was when we had a Clinton in the office. Maybe it's the only way to get back on track.

1,006 posted on 01/10/2008 6:50:06 AM PST by Trinity5 ("We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons..." - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Trinity5

Sounds fine, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. BTW - you now sound like a RINO!


1,007 posted on 01/10/2008 7:43:19 AM PST by Sonora
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To: Trinity5; All
CAVEAT: I don't like John McCain. I won't vote for him in the California primary. I am tired of RINOS.

Trinity5= Hell, if Hillary or Barak get in at least I know what we are in store for.

For all you FReepers who have been saying that Hillary is unelectable, I give you the above response. More than any place on the Internet, FreeRepublic knows that for which we are in store. We paid attention to the sale of missile technology to the ChiComs, massive illegal foreign donations, FBI files, abuse by the IRS, mysterious dead bodies, cocaine, perjury, suborning perjury, intimidating witnesses with PI thugs, calling us the VRWC because we wanted criminal behavior punished.

We know that there are Clinton moles in every department of government. They are in the Justice Department, State Department, Defense Department, etc, and they continue to do enormous damage to our country.

We know Hillary's view of the Constitution ---- NONE OF IT MATTERS TO HER. What matters is her agenda. She will not negotiate legislation; she will create executive orders. Who is going to impeach her? The GOP? FReepers who stayed home and helped her get elected?

Some of you think that Hillary would only get four years. America would learn its lesson, and there would be a conservative revolution. It would be another Jimmy Carter. Are you out of your mind? You know Hillary Clinton. You know what she is capable of doing. Given the power of the presidency, do you think she is going to try to get along with bipartisanship? No, it is scorched earth. She will personally destroy anyone who gets in her way.

If McCain is the president, we can keep the pressure on him. Look what we did with amnesty, thanks to FR and talk radio. When talk radio is shut down, how do we fight Hillary? No, not just modified in a misguided attempt to stop its influence just before an election --- ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN.

This evil woman is like nothing we have ever seen in American politics. She is above the law. She and her husband tried to fix a federal trial. A rapist actually walked the halls of power in our White House, while this evil woman was destroying people behind the scenes.

We can fight John McCain. Hillary is going to destroy the America we know.

Blow up the system and that will get us back on track? Are you kidding? We will never be on track. We will have blown up ourselves. It's hard to have an effect on policy when you are dead or in a re-education camp. Hillary will not change things for four years. She will change it forever.

For those who have not paid attention to Paul v Clinton, I have watched how a Clinton-appointed federal judge protected her. How the FEC protected her. How the DOJ protected her. How a US Attorney's office hid evidence and protected her. How the FEC protected her.

There is nothing this woman will not do to obtain power. When she has it, there is nothing she will not do.

1,008 posted on 01/10/2008 7:49:50 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: tortdog; barryg; MAK1179; briansb
"I am going to teach America a lesson and let Hillary run the country "

"It’s called being part of a movement"

Call it whatever you wish. If you nominate that sleazebag from Arizona, I am NOT part of your movement and the GOP can pound sand. Got little to do with teaching anyone a lesson and much more to do with my own core belief system.

John McCain is not my guy, not by a long shot. And, I am not alone in this.

Now go right ahead and nominate whomever you wish

1,009 posted on 01/10/2008 8:16:47 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: doug from upland
If John McCain is the best the GOP can agree on, this fight is already over... all we'll be doing is deciding if it's a slow burn or sudden collapse.

I'm with Trinity on this one, blow the system up now if this is the best you can do.

If McCain is our nominee, I'm done with supporting the Republican Party. Done forever even that means I have no party.

1,010 posted on 01/10/2008 8:20:30 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: doug from upland

excellent post 1008, Doug from Upland... you said it all. unless a miracle happens, this will be another election in which I vote against someone, instead of “for” someone.


1,011 posted on 01/10/2008 8:20:44 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: West Coast Conservative
I would have no problem voting for McCain over Hillary or Obama.

Agreed.

Remember how we got Bill and Hillary in the White House for 8 years?

Some folks thought that George Bush, the Elder was just not perfect enough and voted for Perot. As a result Bill Clinton reached the White House with less than 43% of the vote.

1,012 posted on 01/10/2008 8:29:44 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Sonora
"Sounds fine, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. BTW - you now sound like a RINO!"

WTF? Way to "win me over" to your side. And in what way am I a RINO? I pretty much agree with most of the Republican Plank. Too bad all of the Republican front runners don't. I'll be voting for Hunter in my Primary. Can't get anymore Republican then that can you? But I won't hold my nose and vote McCain, Romney, or Giuliani for President.

1,013 posted on 01/10/2008 8:36:05 AM PST by Trinity5 ("We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons..." - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Lloyd227
If John McCain is the best the GOP can agree on, this fight is already over... all we'll be doing is deciding if it's a slow burn or sudden collapse. I'm with Trinity on this one, blow the system up now if this is the best you can do.

"The GOP" does not chose who wins primaries.

The voters of America do.

Instead of lashing out at "the GOP", try changing the mind of other American voters.

1,014 posted on 01/10/2008 8:39:16 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
"Instead of lashing out at "the GOP", try changing the mind of other American voters."

I just did

1,015 posted on 01/10/2008 8:52:39 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: Perdogg

Yes, I will vote for McCain if he is the GOP nominee.

The Democrats will damage my country if they are in control of the executive branch of the federal government. A vote for the GOP candidate removes this threat.


1,016 posted on 01/10/2008 8:54:11 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Perdogg

The criticism against Mccain has been over the top here, while he is not my first choice , I would gladly support him if he wins the nomination.


1,017 posted on 01/10/2008 8:56:49 AM PST by GregH
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To: Senator Goldwater
"A vote for the GOP candidate removes this threat"

Dream on... most of the GOP candidates remaining at this point look an awful lot like the Democratic field in 1964. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party if so many are willing to support that sleazebag and traitor John McCain.

Hunter and Thompson are the only choices left and it's looking a lot like most Republican's are willing to compromise the whole country away to win an election.

1,018 posted on 01/10/2008 8:58:56 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: GregH
"The criticism against Mccain has been over the top here"

McCain's willingness to give away everything in the name of compromising with the left is what is over the top.

That amnesty bill was just the last straw in a long trail of decietfulness. McCain is no conservative. I and a lot more like me will no longer consider ourselves Republicans if McCain turns out to be the nominee.

Count on it

1,019 posted on 01/10/2008 9:01:32 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: Night Hides Not
And we almost got Harriett Miers.

What's that got to do with it? Bush yielded to complaints coming from conservatives. So we got Alito. You think we would have Alito if Kerry had won? I'm assuming you didn't vote in 2004 on the grounds that Bush was a RINO. The partial birth abortion bill was upheld last summer 5-4. If Kerry is president it goes down to defeat 6-3. I guess that means nothing to you.

Dubya's Daddy gave us Souter, although he nominated Clarence Thomas. That Souter pick has really worked out well, hasn't it?

He nominated Souter because he thought he could get through a Democrat controlled Senate - I think they had 55 seats - because he had made no public statements on Roe v Wade. Many people thought he would be much more conservative. You may recall most of the Democrat senators voted AGAINST Souter (on the other hand, you probably don't recall that). They were saying, among other things, he would be a vote to overturn Roe. It didn't turn out that way. He tried to get someone thought to be a conservative through in a solidly Democratic Senate and it didn't work out. That's the reality of a Republican trying to get a conservative approved when the Dems are in control. Thomas had to go through hell and got in only when he said that line about "high tech lynching".

Even Reagan gave us Sandra Day O'Connor.

So what are you saying? Was Reagan a RINO? If so, there's no point in your ever thinking about voting Republican. Come to think of it you should change your idea of what a Republican is. There's nobody out there in all likelihood who's not a RINO by your thinking. Like Souter, O'Connor was thought likely to be more conservative. A lot of Democrats also voted against her for that reason.

You probably didn't vote for Bush in 92. We got 9/11 - which wouldn't have happened in my view if a Republican was in the White House in the 90's. I guess that means nothing either. Nor do future 9/11's. You seem to be basing everything on a personal dislike of these people. I don't base my vote on liking or disliking the candidate personally. I try to be more of an adult and think about the country. I know McCain wouldn't do everything I want, but his likely, but not guaranteed, conservative SCOTUS appointees, conservative voting record on spending, his pro-life voting record are huge differences between him and Hillary. There's also the need to secure victory in Iraq. Those are all a big yawn to you. I think EVERYTHING is a big yawn to you.

1,020 posted on 01/10/2008 9:05:01 AM PST by lasereye
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