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To: Night Hides Not
And we almost got Harriett Miers.

What's that got to do with it? Bush yielded to complaints coming from conservatives. So we got Alito. You think we would have Alito if Kerry had won? I'm assuming you didn't vote in 2004 on the grounds that Bush was a RINO. The partial birth abortion bill was upheld last summer 5-4. If Kerry is president it goes down to defeat 6-3. I guess that means nothing to you.

Dubya's Daddy gave us Souter, although he nominated Clarence Thomas. That Souter pick has really worked out well, hasn't it?

He nominated Souter because he thought he could get through a Democrat controlled Senate - I think they had 55 seats - because he had made no public statements on Roe v Wade. Many people thought he would be much more conservative. You may recall most of the Democrat senators voted AGAINST Souter (on the other hand, you probably don't recall that). They were saying, among other things, he would be a vote to overturn Roe. It didn't turn out that way. He tried to get someone thought to be a conservative through in a solidly Democratic Senate and it didn't work out. That's the reality of a Republican trying to get a conservative approved when the Dems are in control. Thomas had to go through hell and got in only when he said that line about "high tech lynching".

Even Reagan gave us Sandra Day O'Connor.

So what are you saying? Was Reagan a RINO? If so, there's no point in your ever thinking about voting Republican. Come to think of it you should change your idea of what a Republican is. There's nobody out there in all likelihood who's not a RINO by your thinking. Like Souter, O'Connor was thought likely to be more conservative. A lot of Democrats also voted against her for that reason.

You probably didn't vote for Bush in 92. We got 9/11 - which wouldn't have happened in my view if a Republican was in the White House in the 90's. I guess that means nothing either. Nor do future 9/11's. You seem to be basing everything on a personal dislike of these people. I don't base my vote on liking or disliking the candidate personally. I try to be more of an adult and think about the country. I know McCain wouldn't do everything I want, but his likely, but not guaranteed, conservative SCOTUS appointees, conservative voting record on spending, his pro-life voting record are huge differences between him and Hillary. There's also the need to secure victory in Iraq. Those are all a big yawn to you. I think EVERYTHING is a big yawn to you.

1,020 posted on 01/10/2008 9:05:01 AM PST by lasereye
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To: lasereye
You missed my point on judges. Of course, we'd all like to see Alito/Roberts/Thomas/Scalia types on the bench. If anything is going to sway me to vote for a RINO for President, that would be one of the factors. You probably didn't vote for Bush in 92.

I voted for Bush in '88 and '92, and Dole in '96.

I don't base my vote on liking or disliking the candidate personally.

My decision to not vote for McCain is based on his record. His votes against tax cuts, his previous staunch support for amnesty for illegal aliens, the Gang of 14, etc.

I think EVERYTHING is a big yawn to you.

You sir, with all of your hyperbole and ad hominem attacks, are what's making me yawn. I don't take kindly to having my patriotism questioned, as one who served in this country's military over eight years.

I remain unconvinced that a venal and condescending man such as John McCain should be handed the keys to the White House. I saw enough in the recent debates that led me to that conclusion, which was buttressed by numerous commentators.

1,030 posted on 01/10/2008 10:00:59 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Hey, Fred! Time to put the spurs to the horse! Giddyup!)
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