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Supreme Court Strikes Down Voluntary Integration Plans
United States Supreme Court ^ | 6/28/07 | Not Available

Posted on 06/28/2007 7:25:43 AM PDT by Publius Valerius

The Supreme Court split 5-4 in striking down voluntary integration programs in Louisville and Seattle today. The opinions were authored by the Chief Justice.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; US: Kentucky; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: ruling; scotus
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To: Uncledave; GregH
The RNC doesn't have a monopoly on advancing conservative candidates or causes. I feel my money is better invested directly supporting conservative candidates for office rather than through the RNC.

ditto!

The RNC sometimes doesn't even advance conservative causes at all, but liberal ones. (ie., illegal immigration and supporting RINOs in the '06 election)
41 posted on 06/28/2007 12:53:00 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Publius Valerius
I guess I am not getting it. Voluntary for what reason? Are there still involuntary plans?

Who the heck would want to pour money down that rathole again?

42 posted on 06/28/2007 1:11:02 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Voluntary as in not under court-ordered desegregation. Much like in Grutter and Gratz, the school districts argue that integration is its own reward, and they should be doing it to provide a better education for the children.


43 posted on 06/28/2007 1:23:48 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Elpasser

It’s a reflection of CJ Roberts’ judicial philosophy that advocates judicial restraint. He argued that the SCOTUS should decide only on the matter that is brought to the court. More than that, I think, he considers it somekind of judicial activism.


44 posted on 06/28/2007 1:28:13 PM PDT by paudio
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To: mewzilla
``The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race,'' Chief Justice John Roberts wrote

He can't be a lawyer = that statement in clear, precise and easily understood.

45 posted on 06/28/2007 2:10:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: MrB
Harry Reid, commenting on this decision today, actually said: The Constitution requires that schools be racially diverse.

Ahh, anyone ask him to show us where?

What about schools reflect their neighborhoods - and kids get to go to the school nearest home?

It isn't as though 'people of color" are prevented from living where they choose...and there have been/are a great number of blacks who are/have been against forced busing.

46 posted on 06/28/2007 2:16:21 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Publius Valerius

Bush legacy at work. Probably the only good thing he has left for his legacy.


47 posted on 06/28/2007 4:20:40 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: mimaw
Given the population of some states a hard core conservative will not win. Better for us to win some of these states with a mushy moderate and at least get control then to cede to the left everything.

I'm sorry, but that sounds like a real cop-out to me. Why not invest in EDUCATING the people in those districts as to why a conservative is a better choice than playing a game such as what you propose?

The average citizens is not as stupid as a lot of people in politics seem to think -- most never even hear WHY socialist/Democrat proposals are bad. If you educate people then we'll have a real chance at keeping our country safe from socialism.

Arguing that we'll just go slower isn't an option at this point. So many so-called Republicans are pushing their own socialist agendas that people are already confused as to what the Republican party really stands for. More candidates that could run under either party's banner will NOT help the situation, and will not stop our country from "going left". Only an educated populace will stop it, and that includes offering people a REAL choice, and REAL explanations instead of feel-good, wishy-washy politicians who are afraid to stand on principle and explain WHY...

Is there any wonder the average citizen has such a low view of politicians when both major parties adopt attitudes such as this?
48 posted on 06/28/2007 5:05:38 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: MrB

Thanks for posting that. That’s really scary... Our legislators don’t even know what the Constitution says do they??? A comment like that just proves it.

What really gets me is that all of these people who claim affirmative action type programs such as diversifying schools are meant to “end racism” don’t realize that it achieves the exact OPPOSITE of the things MLK, Jr. preached during the Civil Rights crusade... It’s CONTENT OF CHARACTER — NOT color of skin... and that goes for ALL colors of skin. Race or ethnicity should not be used as any sort of criteria at all in our society if we truly wish to “create equality” of opportunities for all. You cannot create equality with preferential treatment.

I wish just once one of our politicians would realize that racism can go “both ways”...


49 posted on 06/28/2007 5:18:22 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: LibertyRocks

How bout that you pissant Bush bashers. In retrospection over all the dissapointments, Who would Gore or Kerry have appointed to SCOTUS? How would the response to 9/11 or the ongoing GWOT have been run? Many other things to add, but that alone is enough to say that voting for the President was the right thing to do - then and now.


50 posted on 06/28/2007 5:40:30 PM PDT by angrymarine (I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself.)
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To: angrymarine

Excuse me???? A pissant Bush basher? That doesn’t even deserve a response, but hell, I’m feeling generous, so here goes...

I have defended this President, and this administration numerous times over the last 7 years. I even quit a party that I worked very hard for over the WOT (the LP). I have done as much as I can (as a civilian) to support the WOT.

For you to pretend that I am only interested in bashing Bush, proves you don’t know very much about me at all. I call it as I see it, and if Bush or ANY other elected representative no matter what party they belong to chooses to ignore the Constitution, or refuses to enforce our laws instead picking and choosing which ones they ‘like’ then I will level the appropriate amount of criticism to each.

Speaking of the GWOT — How in the world does OUR President’s actions support the WOT when it’s not only Mexican Illegal Aliens, but ME TERRORISTS that could’ve gained amnesty??? There is far too much double-speak.

I would NEVER support a Democrat for President, and I would always work like HELL to stop them from getting elected, but don’t expect me to sit back and take it when we are being betrayed by an elected official — ESPECIALLY when that individual should know better than to pull the kind of crapola they have in the last few months.

It is not enough to simply elect someone and then let them do whatever the hell they want while in office. THAT is why our system works — we have a voice and I’ll be damned if I don’t use it. There is a difference between demanding accountability, and offering no respect. President Bush is OUR President, and I respect him as such. Just because I don’t praise every action no matter what the consequences would be doesn’t place me among those on the left that LIE and MAKE-UP reasons to “bash Bush”.

I’m getting really tired of the condescension among those who can’t see beyond their political party. It is one thing to support your party during an election — quite another to let them get away with things that are NOT good for our country. That is something I will NEVER do...


51 posted on 06/28/2007 6:17:38 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: NonValueAdded

As it should be. If public funds are to be used, they should be used for the locality and the people within those localities (within reason).

The whole Liberal policy of percentages is ideology and not appropriate. If there are black, latin, asian....individuals in the district, they should get a reasonable right to go to those schools. I think that’s the most appropriate interpetation to the equal clause.


52 posted on 06/28/2007 6:18:04 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson....IMWITHFRED.COM)
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To: Spok

Exactly...nothing by government is voluntary.


53 posted on 06/28/2007 6:22:33 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson....IMWITHFRED.COM)
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To: angrymarine

BTW... Welcome to FR, it’s been a little over 2 months since you joined and you feel confident in attacking someone in this manner??? Name-calling doesn’t go over well here at FR, and you would do well to remember that...


54 posted on 06/28/2007 6:26:18 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: Dutch Tulip; All

Dutch, don’t rejoice just yet. Wichita said they were ordered to bus by the Civil Rights Commission, and this ruling doesn’t end their busing program.

Unfortunately, it looks like it will not end forced busing.

Still, it is a very good ruling.


55 posted on 06/28/2007 6:26:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...
Ping!
56 posted on 06/28/2007 8:59:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 27, 2007.)
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To: LibertyRocks

notice the S at the end of “Bush Bashers.” Speaking to the collective that meet that definition - and they are obvious. “You” in the eglish language can and, in this case, is being used in the plural. The broad vague plural to whom it refers. If that’s you (singular) - then wear it. If it isnt - find a worthy post to vent your righteous indignation. One that applies to you (singular). As for GWOT - the point stands - the choices were Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Tenet, and Powell (wolfowitz and others not to shabby either - even advice from Kissinger) - Or Gore, Albright, Fuerth, Maybe Tenet, Cohen (or Clark), and God knows what other pacifist amateurs. MMMM. For a guy who wears the uniform - the choice is obvious and immediate. Then and now. Agree on the detractions, but the fact that it was the best choice, by orders of magnitude, are obvious.


57 posted on 06/29/2007 1:26:15 AM PDT by angrymarine (I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself.)
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To: angrymarine
As for GWOT - the point stands - the choices were Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Tenet, and Powell (wolfowitz and others not to shabby either - even advice from Kissinger) - Or Gore, Albright, Fuerth, Maybe Tenet, Cohen (or Clark), and God knows what other pacifist amateurs. MMMM. For a guy who wears the uniform - the choice is obvious and immediate. Then and now. Agree on the detraction's, but the fact that it was the best choice, by orders of magnitude, are obvious.

That is a critical distinction that is all too often brushed aside the moment Bush falls flat on an issue.

Bush took the GWOT to the enemy, something no Rat would ever do, nor will they ever let it happen again if they can help it. I strongly believe he's saved hundreds of thousands of US citizens by making a tough, unpopular, but absolutely essential decision. He is wrong in many - most ways on illegal aliens, but he is trying to address it rather than leave it for the next POTUS.

Bush also didn't start the alien invasion, neither did Toon, or 41, or Reagan.

Reagan allowed an amnesty that's debatedly worse, 41 ignored it, as did Toon, and there's no ill words spoken against any of them.

He could have sat on his ass staring at all those straight A's on his report card, some of which place him in the very top rungs of conservatism and patriotism, but he felt that, as he was the right president for the times in so many other battles, he'd be able to make the right calls on the illegals.

He was wrong, and he put himself in a position where the party of sanctuary cities and welfare for other countries' citizens will extort concessions on his victories in exchange for promises they will never keep.

This is the quagmire that he needs to walk away from and let a more aggressive Conservative Republican President deal with. The only thing he should be discussing is how fast the entire fences can be built, how fast can we hire and arm thousands more border patrol.(& fire Johhny Sutton, and free Ramos & Campeon)

We need him to address other issues of national security right now, such as the high level leaks by the DOD & others, and the political persecution of the most honorable and dedicated men this nation has, our Defenders. He needs to sit down with Navy Secretary Winters and let him know that the NCIS is not above the law or reproach.

I appreciated Bush's break from a disastrous past in that he wants his generals prosecuting the war, not partisan politicians.

It is now time that he direct an investigation be made into congressional pressure against these generals to fabricate charges, based solely on insurgent propaganda, in an attempt to disable our capabilities to secure victories - and not some BS rat congressional oversight committee made up of what should be the defendants, such as having Gorelick on the 911 commission.

58 posted on 06/29/2007 2:50:32 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: angrymarine

OK, understood. Perhaps mine was a knee-jerk reaction because I have heard so much of the same sort of rhetoric from many here over the last few weeks for simply voicing my opinion on illegal immigration, and being critical of our President and his stance and tone on this issue. For that, I do apologize.

Please understand that part of the reason I took your post personally was because it was addressed to me. If there is a general comment to be made on a thread, not addressed to anyone in particular many replace the poster’s name in the “To:” field with “All”, instead. That will prevent future confusion. Another alternative is simply to reply to the main post (#1), instead of the last post on the thread...

I’ll say it again — without the sarcasm this time — WELCOME TO FR! (o:

(And, THANK YOU! for your service to our country. It means more to me and my family, than mere words can express... God bless you and keep you safe, angrymarine).


59 posted on 06/29/2007 4:06:33 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: NRA2BFree; GregH

Yep! Clean house first, support second.


60 posted on 06/29/2007 12:35:59 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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