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Skeletons Of Bloodiest Day (Towton - 1461AD)
The Press ^ | 9-12-2006 | Nadia Jefferson-Brown

Posted on 09/12/2006 2:45:57 PM PDT by blam

Skeletons of bloodiest day

By Nadia Jefferson-Brown

SKELETONS bearing marks of horrendous sword injuries have been unearthed beneath a North Yorkshire hall.

The victims of a medieval battle were discovered beneath the floor of the dining room of Towton Hall, between Tadcaster and Sherburn-in- Elmet, dating from the Battle of Towton in 1461.

The discovery was made as part of a ten-year investigation into the archaeological evidence of the longest and bloodiest battle ever fought in England.

Taking place on Palm Sunday, March 29, 1461, the Lancastrian army was handed an enormous blow with its leader, King Henry VI, forced to flee. He was defeated by the self-proclaimed Edward IV.

continued... After ten hours of combat at the battle, near Tadcaster, 28,000 men lay dead. The latest find was instigated following the unearthing of a mass grave at the hall in 1996, which contained 37 battle victims.

The latest evidence and gruesome accounts of the War Of The Roses clash, and its victims will be presented at a one-day conference on Wednesday, October 4, at 9.30am at the Yorkshire Museum in York. Tickets are £19.50.

The Battle of Towton took place in a snowstorm, between the villages of Towton and Saxton, about two miles south of Tadcaster.

The Towton Battlefield Archaeological Survey, directed by Tim Sutherland, of the University of Bradford, has reassessed evidence of the battle through large-scale investigations across the battlefield landscape and has re-evaluated the documents.

The project, the first multidisciplinary investigation of a medieval battlefield in this country, has also discovered large numbers of arrowheads and further mass graves, making it possible to accurately locate the site of the battle. Further work in the area of Towton Hall has also led to the unearthing of several single graves of combatants.

The most recent excavation, funded by the Royal Armouries, Leeds, under the dining room of Towton Hall revealed a further multiple grave containing soldiers with battle injuries.

It is possible these are the remains of high-ranking combatants buried on what was later to become the site of King Richard III's chantry chapel built to commemorate the conflict.


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To: pierrem15
The first day of the Battle of the Somme was beyond belief.

In the approximately ten years of Vietnam, the U.S. suffered about 58,000 men killed. The British suffered nearly that many casualties on the first day of the Somme.

41 posted on 09/12/2006 7:21:00 PM PDT by THX 1138
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To: drhogan
but note the low number of deaths compared to the number engaged.

Agreed, however, in one thing that confuses so many reporters is that casualties does not mean dead. I do not have the numbers at my finger tips, but many more soldiers were wounded, or captured/deserted (did not return to their units).

42 posted on 09/12/2006 7:24:28 PM PDT by Fraxinus
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To: THX 1138
My great grandfather fought on the Somme in 1914, on the British flank in 1916 and, when recalled to duty, once again in 1940.

I've often wondered what he thought as he boarded the train with orders to return once again to the killing fields of his youth.

43 posted on 09/12/2006 7:25:30 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: drhogan
Not sure either, and nor am I trying to minimize the size or toll of the battle.

The length alone (unusual for any battle using only brute human strength with edged weapons and without reinforcements) is telling, and I suspect a large number of wounded (given the weather) would have succumbed to the elements.

Your ancestor must have been one heck of a warrior to have made it through that battle.

According to the physical anthropoligists, most of the skeletons show the kind of bone growth and injuries we only associate today with athletes. These guys were born with a sword in their hands and must have spent thousands of hours in practice and lugging their arms and armor around England.

44 posted on 09/12/2006 7:37:07 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: drhogan
"· 100,000 German casualties, killed, wounded or captured.

· 81,000 American casualties, including 23,554 captured and 19,000 killed.

· 1,400 British casualties 200 killed.

· 800 tanks lost on each side, 1,000 German aircraft."

Puts our relatively light WOT losses in perspective.
45 posted on 09/12/2006 7:37:51 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: pierrem15
My great grandfather fought on the Somme in 1914, on the British flank in 1916 and, when recalled to duty, once again in 1940.

I've often wondered what he thought as he boarded the train with orders to return once again to the killing fields of his youth.

My brother's father-in-law (God rest his soul) was a paratrooper in WWII and jumped into Normandy on D-day. I asked him once, very stupidly, if he had been scared. "You're g*dd*mn right I was scared!".

I suspect this was the reaction of your great grandfather. Most men in that situation are afraid. The real test of bravery is this: they do it anyway, and they do their duty.

46 posted on 09/12/2006 7:41:15 PM PDT by THX 1138
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To: drhogan
This is from a letter written to an East Anglian family named Paston, (in the original 15th c. English):

"On the Kyngys parte is slayn Lord Fitzwater, and Lord Scrop sore hurt. John Stafford. Horne of Kent, ben ded, and Vmfrey Stafford, William Hastyngys, mad knyghtys, with oþer; Blont is knygth, &c. Vn the contrary part is ded Lord Clyfford, Lord Nevyle, Lord Welles, Lord Wyllouby, Antony Lord Scales, Lord Harry and be supposyng þe Erle of Northumberland, Andrew Trollop with many oþer gentyll and comons to þe nombre of xx ml. Item, Kyng Herry, the Qwen, the Prince, Duk of Somerset, Duke of Exceter, Lord Roos, ben fledde in-to Scottelond, and they ben chased and folwed, &c. We send no er vn-to you be-cause we had non cer[teyn tyd]yngys tyl now; for vn-to þis day London was as sory cité as mygth, and be-cause Spordauns had no certeyn tydyngys we thougth ye schuld take them a worthe tyl more certayn. Item, Thorp Waterfeld is yoldyn, as Spordauns can telle you. And Jesu spede you. We pray you that this tydyngys my moder may knowe. Be 3owre broder W. Paston Th. Playter Comes Northumbr' Comes Deuon' Dominus de Beamundo Dominus de Clifford Dominus de Neuyll Dominus de Dacre Dominus Henricus de Bokyngham Dominus de Welles Dominus de Scalis Antony Reuers Dominus de Welluyby Dominus de Malley Radulfus Bigot, miles Millites Sir Rauff Gray Sir Richard Percy Sir Harry Belyngham Sir Andrew Trollop With xxviij ml nomberd by harraldys" (emphasis mine)

There is a river to the north of Towton, the Cock, not all that deep but with steep banks. The retreating Lancastrians were trapped at one of the few fords in the vicinity of the battleground and dispatched accordingly.

Probably the most important reason for the high percentage of casualties was King Edward's call for no quarter.

http://www.yorkshirehistory.com/towton/towton1.htm

47 posted on 09/12/2006 8:00:02 PM PDT by decal ("D For DUmmie")
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48 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: scouse

Yes it was.


49 posted on 09/13/2006 10:29:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: drhogan

Romans had a battle way back when in England with 100,000 killed mostly locals, Roman casualties in the hundreds.


50 posted on 09/13/2006 10:33:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: blam

The War of the Roses was a real quagmire. The Times would not have approved.


51 posted on 09/13/2006 10:38:00 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

Wow! I'm going to read this thread at length when I return from Honolulu. Fascinating find! Just WOW!


52 posted on 09/13/2006 10:44:39 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: blam

Ahhh... the good 'ole days!


53 posted on 09/13/2006 10:54:06 AM PDT by spower
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To: blam

Horay for the House of York!!!!

Stinking Lancastrians.


54 posted on 09/13/2006 11:07:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: pierrem15

Ouch.


55 posted on 09/13/2006 11:15:13 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Bahbah

If we are to believe some of the old documents, slaughter like this may have been relatively common in the days of no quarter. Even as late as the 12th Century, Edward Longshanks killed every man woman and child in the city of Berwick to put down a rebellion by the Scots.

Roman historians regularly give accounts of battles where whole armies were destroyed by Julius Caesar or Pompey for example.

And the mongols who conquered Baghdad reputedly killed 750,000 people while wiping out the city.


56 posted on 09/13/2006 12:18:45 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: blam

Bump


57 posted on 09/13/2006 2:27:27 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: indcons

Note to self - Ping MilHist list


58 posted on 09/13/2006 6:00:07 PM PDT by indcons (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana)
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59 posted on 09/13/2006 6:00:55 PM PDT by indcons (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana)
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To: wildbill

The Romans are said to have suffered 50,000 dead at Cannae. They claimed to have killed 80,000 Celts near Watling Road when they ended [for all extent and purposes] Bouddica's revolt. They lost in excess of 15,000 [probably closer to 20,000] at Teutoberg Wald. And their losses at Carrhae, at the hands of the Parthians, were much higher than that.


60 posted on 09/13/2006 8:20:16 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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