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Man Who Advanced Bird-Dinosaur Link Dies
http://start.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20050720/42ddcc40_3ca6_15526200507201267705073 ^ | July 20, 2005 1:58 PM EDT

Posted on 07/20/2005 12:42:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin

NEW HAVEN, Conn. - John H. Ostrom, a Yale University paleontologist who advanced the theory that birds descended from dinosaurs and was credited for a discovery of a small carnivorous dinosaur in 1964, has died. He was 77.

Ostrom died Saturday of complications from Alzheimer's disease at an assisted living center in Litchfield, the Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History said Tuesday.

He was known for his discovery of Deinonychus, a two-legged dinosaur, in Montana and for his theory that it may have been a warm-blooded dinosaur. The theory, which was published in 1969, contradicts an earlier theory that dinosaur species were cold-blooded.

Ostrom also was known for reintroducing an idea first advanced a century ago that birds are the most logical descendants of dinosaurs.

In 1999, a symposium was held in Ostrom's honor called "New Perspectives on the Origin and Early Evolution of Birds."

"When I first suggested there was a connection between birds and dinosaurs, they said, 'There goes John again.' Now it's up to them to show why dinosaurs are not related to birds," Ostrom said at the time.

Born in 1928 in New York City and raised in Schenectady, N.Y., Ostrom was introduced to paleontology as an undergraduate at Union College.

He is survived by two daughters and three grandchildren. His wife, Nancy, died in 2003.


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KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; paleontology
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1 posted on 07/20/2005 12:42:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 07/20/2005 12:43:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin
...credited for a discovery of a small carnivorous dinosaur in 1964...

Wow! I thought they were extinct long before that.
3 posted on 07/20/2005 12:46:41 PM PDT by keat (Posting code without previewing since 2004)
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To: BenLurkin
When I heard about that link betwixt birds and dynos, I thought that God has a wicked sense of humor and that the Greeks knew more than they thought when they wrote down the Iliad.
4 posted on 07/20/2005 12:50:46 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Hail Britannia!)
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To: BenLurkin

I like that bird - dinosaur theory, more plausible than some offered.

It has a parallel to today's political scene in a way.

It's plausibility has been confirmed most recently as the c'Rats have displayed the last few years, either willingly and/or unwittingly, they have become almost extinct having mutated from prehistoric turkeys to dinosaurs, which is what the c'Rat party is rapidly headed toward becoming,, and none too soon.. ;-)


5 posted on 07/20/2005 1:07:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: BenLurkin
He was 77

Not what one would call a fossil.
6 posted on 07/20/2005 1:21:10 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (The destination is most rewarding when you enjoy the journey.)
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To: BenLurkin

I've believed the bird-dinosaur theory longer than most, because I have a houseful of parrots. Anyone who has a Jardine's parrot and doesn't see a little feather-covered T-rex stomping around just isn't looking hard enough.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 1:40:38 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: HHFi


Feed the Birds...
or else!!

8 posted on 07/20/2005 3:34:25 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm just a stunt driver on the information highway)
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To: snippy_about_it

Ping to "Bird" thread


9 posted on 07/20/2005 3:35:14 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm just a stunt driver on the information highway)
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To: SAMWolf

Feed the Birds...
or else!!


Grrrr. :-)

10 posted on 07/20/2005 9:07:20 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: BenLurkin

He and God must be having an interesting debriefing right now.


11 posted on 07/20/2005 9:08:06 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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12 posted on 07/20/2005 9:32:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: BenLurkin; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; asp1; ...
Thanks BenL.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

13 posted on 07/20/2005 9:33:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Mammals rule!

Dinos drool...

14 posted on 07/20/2005 9:50:34 PM PDT by null and void (I don't use a tripod, only 50% of my photographs are good. They call me "The Half-Blurred Prints"...)
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To: null and void

Ew, a rodent. Hungry as ever I see. Hopefully the bird died of West Nile. :'P

http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/faq/dino-faqs/pdq177.html

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may2000/957484630.Zo.r.html

http://www.eduseek.com/static/navigate9200.html


15 posted on 07/20/2005 9:58:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ew?

What? Rodents are by far the most popular kind of mammal!


16 posted on 07/20/2005 10:02:24 PM PDT by null and void (I don't use a tripod, only 50% of my photographs are good. They call me "The Half-Blurred Prints"...)
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The link was extinct, so I located a similar page:
Fossils Challenge Bird Origin
by Paul Recer
June 22, 2000
The fossil of a small lizard-like, flying reptile with a complex set of feathers challenges the theory that birds evolved from dinosaurs, a new study says.

Researchers say the feathered reptile lived 225 million years ago, proving that feathered animals evolved millions of years before the appearance of the dinosaurs that most experts say are the ancestors of modern birds.

The fossil has been called Longisquama and is thought to be an archosaur, a member of a reptile group that later gave rise to dinosaurs, crocodiles and birds. The first known bird, Archeopteryx, appeared about 145 million years ago, some 75 million after the date for Longisquama.

"Here you've got an animal that isn't a bird and it isn't a dinosaur, and yet it has feathers,'' said Nicholas R. Geist, paleobiologist at Sonoma State University and co-author of a study appearing Friday in the journal Science.

"It is going to be a major monkey wrench in the theory about the dinosaurean origin of birds,'' he said. "It is going to cause some people to take a real good second look at their data.''

However, Jacques Gauthier of Yale University, an expert on the evolution of dinosaurs, said that Longisquama is a poorly preserved specimen that is important only "if you allow your imagination to run wild.''

"There is a huge body of data that show birds evolved from dinosaurs,'' said Gauthier. "This (the Longisquama study) is way over the top.''

Gauthier said that a single specimen is not enough to dismiss a theory that is supported by many studies that point to the dinosaur ancestry of birds, including evidence that some dinosaurs had feathers.

The Longisquama fossil includes the head, forelegs and part of a torso of a lizard-like animal. Along its back are a series of appendages that Geist and his co-authors say are feathers.

Longisquama was found in Kyrgyzstan, in central Asia, in 1969, and was stored for years in a drawer in Moscow. The specimen provoked little interest until it was included as part of a traveling exhibition and spotted at a shopping mall in Kansas by Oregon State University paleontologists John Ruben and Terry Jones, co-authors of the study in Science.

Ruben and Jones said they identified the appendages on the back of the small fossil as feathers and began a long study of the small critter.

Jones said that the feathers along the back of Longisquama are fully developed and very "birdlike.''

"The skeleton is also very birdlike,'' said Jones. "It has a birdlike head, shoulders and a wishbone. The wishbone is almost exactly like that of Archeopteryx.''

Geist said the feather structure of Longisquama was well preserved in hardened mud because the animal apparently sank to a lake bottom after it died.

He that Longisquama probably had muscle control of the feathers and that it used them to glide from trees. The animal was not able to achieve true flight as do modern birds, said Geist.

"These feathers emerge from a follicle the way feathers do in modern birds,'' said Geist. "They had a quill-like structure that was hollow.''

Geist said that feathers are very complicated structures and that it is unlikely that feathers would have evolved twice -- once among the early reptiles and then later among the dinosaurs.

Ruben said that other researchers have identified dinosaurs as having feathers and as being birdlike. But he said two of the most birdlike dinosaurs, Bambiraptor and Velociraptor, lived 70 million years after the earliest known bird.

Longisquama, however, he said, lived at the right time and had the feathers that suggest it could have been an evolutionary ancestor of birds.

Jones said that the feathers on Longisquama are so well developed that it is likely that the first feathers appeared on reptiles many generations before Longisquama came along.

But Gauthier said the study is going to have little effect on the theory that birds evolved from dinosaurs, an idea that can be traced back through the work of hundreds of scientists over many decades.

Accepting a Longisquama as the first bird "would be like saying suddenly that humans are not primates or even mammals,'' said Gaiter. He said more evidence than Longisquama would be needed to disprove a theory that has been long accepted by the majority of paleobiologists.

17 posted on 07/20/2005 10:09:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: null and void

I'd rather have chickens and eggs than rodent meat. :'D


18 posted on 07/20/2005 10:13:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: BenLurkin

"Man Who Advanced Bird-Dinosaur Link Dies"

That'll teach him.


19 posted on 07/21/2005 1:13:16 AM PDT by dsc
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To: SunkenCiv; Cuttnhorse

No cuy for you!


20 posted on 07/21/2005 6:36:38 AM PDT by null and void (I don't use a tripod, only 50% of my photographs are good. They call me "The Half-Blurred Prints"...)
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