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DNA Unable to Prove Bones in Savannah Are Revolutionary War Hero Pulaski - Circumstantial Case Made
Associated Press ^ | Jun 21, 2005 | Russ Bynum

Posted on 06/21/2005 8:05:51 PM PDT by Pharmboy

SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) - DNA tests on bones exhumed from a monument to Brig. Gen. Casimir Pulaski failed to prove the remains are those of the Revolutionary War hero killed in a 1779 battle to retake Savannah from the British. But a draft report on the investigation into Pulaski's disputed burial says historical records and skeletal injuries make a case that the remains are those of the Polish nobleman.

"While the strong circumstantial evidence does suggest that the remains are Casimir Pulaski, the inability to obtain a DNA match leads to no viable conclusion," says the report obtained by The Associated Press.

Dr. James C. Metts Jr., the Chatham County coroner, hoped DNA testing of the remains exhumed in 1996 would settle the question of whether Pulaski was buried at sea or placed in an unmarked grave.

The debate has divided historians since the bones were removed from the grave at a ruined plantation and moved in 1854 to Savannah's Monterey Square, where the 54-foot Pulaski monument was erected a year later.

"To our great frustration, we were unable to solve the mystery," said Chuck Powell, administrator of the investigative committee led by Metts. "The final report, other than giving more complete information, will probably not change in its conclusions."

Metts submitted the draft to Savannah officials in November. The city released the findings after the AP requested a copy last week.

Known as the father of the American cavalry, Pulaski came to America in 1777. He was mortally wounded during the October 1779 siege of Savannah.

Examinations of the skull and bones seemed to match what's known of Pulaski's age, height and facial features. A healed fracture to the right hand fits an injury Pulaski once described in a letter. A bone tumor on the forehead fits a wound he suffered fighting the Russians in Poland.

But without more solid proof, it's difficult to debunk Pulaski's burial at sea. Two officers who served under Pulaski wrote accounts of his watery grave. One of them, his aide-de-camp, said he witnessed the burial.

Investigators had hoped to match DNA from the bones to two of Pulaski's deceased relatives in Poland. In one case, the test was inconclusive. In the other, the woman's remains failed to yield enough DNA to examine.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; hero; history; poland; pulaski; revwar
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A true hero. Someone ping the American Revolution and Polish lists. Thanks.
1 posted on 06/21/2005 8:05:52 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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2 posted on 06/21/2005 8:08:05 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: Pharmboy
Thank you for the posts, Pharmboy.

Heroes are rare.
3 posted on 06/21/2005 8:19:56 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Pharmboy

A hero proved in liberating strife.


4 posted on 06/21/2005 8:23:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (SPC Casey Sheehan died trying to save his buddies. His leftist mom says it "wasn't worth it.")
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To: Pharmboy

Cheers to the memory of this friend of the American Revolution.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 8:24:30 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Pinging the majordomos of the Gods, Graves and Glyphs list.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 8:26:22 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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The father of American cavalry was not Pulaski.

There were SEVERAL far better cavalry officers than Pulaski.

There was: Col. Harry Lee of 1st Dragoons.

There was Col.Sheldon of the 3rd Dragoons

There was: Col. William Washington of the 3rd Dragoons.

There was Col. Stephen Moylan of the 4th Dragoons.

Pulaski was a late comer to the American cavalry scene and drew MOST his troopers from the other regiments of Contential Dragoons. While very nice that he came over to volunteer his services, ALL the other AMERICAN Dragoon leaders were far superior to him in skills and ALL of them survived the war and were not known to be foolhardy or brash in battle.

May I suggest any person who wants to know more about American Dragoons, google the subject.

7 posted on 06/21/2005 8:30:52 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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Sorry, it is Col. Sheldon of the 2nd Dragoons( not 3rd).


8 posted on 06/21/2005 8:32:05 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: Pharmboy

Casimir Pulaski (1747-1779)

Pulaski Image
After surviving numerous bloody campaigns against Russia, Count Casimir Pulaski retired to France in 1777, bitterly disappointed and deeply depressed at Poland's failure to defeat her foes.

In Paris Pulaski met Benjamin Franklin, who was recruiting volunteers to fight in America's War of Independence. Mindful that England had recommended that Poland be partitioned by her hostile neighbors in 1772, Pulaski enthusiastically responded to Franklin's plea for assistance. In his letter of introduction to Washington, Franklin wrote of Pulaski as "an officer famous throughout Europe for his bravery and conduct in defense of the liberties of his country against ... great invading powers".

While awaiting his formal appointment by Congress, Pulaski was invited by Washington to serve on his staff during the Battle of Brandywine in September, 1777. Pulaski's performance during this baptism of blood in America earned him a commission as Brigadier General of the entire American cavalry.

Pulaski on Battlefield
In 1779, Pulaski was ordered to join General Lincoln in the South to help recapture Savannah. After French General D'Estaing, leader in the attack on the southern capital, fell wounded, Pulaski is reported to have rushed forward to assume command and raise the soldiers' spirits by his example and courage, only to be mortally wounded himself. Pulaski was named the "Father of American Cavalry", and remains one of the well known figures of the American Revolutionary War. There is hardly a state in America without a county or town, street or square, monument or tablet, school or highway named in grateful memory of General Casimir Pulaski.


9 posted on 06/21/2005 8:32:14 PM PDT by baseballmom
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Casimir Pulaski (1747-1779)
10 posted on 06/21/2005 8:35:37 PM PDT by baseballmom
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There has always been a huge statue of Casimir Polanski in Roger Williams Park, Providence, RI. I have been there four times in the last two yrs. and cannot find a 5 ton statue.


Are there any RI Freepers who can help me out? The Polanski was situated near the long gone Ferris Wheel. Also, the dog sculpture is missing...I wonder what that old dog did to get erased?

THE BAD GUYS ARE STEALING OUR HISTORY. We've beem reamed by Buddy Cianci, and now, by "Diva Dave" Cicilline, a "progressive homosex ineffective tiny little piece of prison trash and in charge of the City of Providence, also nephew to child rapist, Joe Bevelaquia. Remember! It' all about the children with this family.

The old ways have to go in our communities. We are in the "blue state" death throes for the likes of Patches and his Dad, aka The Swimmer, and Linc Chaffee, and Jack Reed.

LET'S STOP THE MADNESS NOW. I'LL STAY AND FIGHT. YOU RI'ERS NEED TO COME OUT AND STOP THE CORRUPTION, WHICH IS ALL WE'VE EVER KNOWN. In RI, if one wants to escape the corruption, the union stranglehold, and the low level of expectation that is guaranteed to every PVD child, then the only only only choice is to move away. I have done that, and daily resent the factors that forced my move. I would come back to RI, if it were ever free of the sinister and ACCEPTED criminals who run it.

I'D SOONER MOVE TO WARSAW....THAT IS THE STATE OF PROVIDENCE RI.
11 posted on 06/21/2005 8:35:37 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Mayor; Valin; Zavien Doombringer

military history ping


12 posted on 06/21/2005 8:37:45 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Amother father of the U.S cavalry is Charles Armand Tuffin, the Marquis de la Rouerie. He took command of Pulaski's men after his death.

A Forgotten Hero of the American War for Independence: Marquis de la Rouerie

13 posted on 06/21/2005 8:42:36 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: ishabibble

Reminds me of the Chinese cultural revolution.


14 posted on 06/21/2005 8:57:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: Pharmboy; Ciexyz
Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution. Thanks Ciexyz for the ping, and PharmBoy for the topic.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

15 posted on 06/21/2005 10:43:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: Lion in Winter; All
"Light Horse" Harry Lee (father of Robert E. Lee) is one of my favorites of the Revolution...and I have no argument with you. What they might mean here is that he was the only classically trained calvarly officer, since, as I'm sure you know, dragoons are not synonymous with calvalry (for those unfamiliar, dragoons were mounted infantry who would ride to where they were needed in battle, dismount, and fight. Their name came from the short musket, or dragon--perhaps because it breathed fire--that they carried [dragoon, in French]).
16 posted on 06/22/2005 3:25:06 AM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: ishabibble

When I get an application from a kid and the resume says "Brown University" they need to be super-terrific to overcome that obstacle in my mind.


17 posted on 06/22/2005 3:27:53 AM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: Pyro7480

Going to check out that link to "The Marquis de la Rouerie".


18 posted on 06/22/2005 9:25:51 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks for the post...............Polish Heritage (4th generation removed) Bump!


19 posted on 06/22/2005 9:30:13 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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Military history bump.


20 posted on 06/22/2005 9:32:32 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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