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Noses Didn't Need Cold To Evolve (Neanderthal)
Science News Magazine ^ | 5-5-2005 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 05/05/2005 8:54:08 AM PDT by blam

Noses didn't need cold to evolve

Bruce Bower

From Milwaukee, at a joint meeting of the Paleoanthropology Society and American Association of Physical Anthropologists

Fossil evidence that Neandertals possessed exceptionally large, broad noses has often been explained as an evolutionary response to life in cold, dry locales. An expansive schnoz might have warmed incoming cold air or expelled body heat during hunting and other strenuous activities.

However, new data indicate that climate played no role in shaping the Neandertal nose. Marc R. Meyer of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and his coworkers found similarly sized nasal passages in a set of 10 Neandertal skulls, some from Mediterranean and Middle Eastern sites that were warm and humid and others from frigid European sites.

Moreover, big, broad noses appear just as often in people from either warm or cold climates, Meyer notes. His team measured nasal dimensions in 460 modern human skulls representing individuals from throughout the world.

Noses don't evolve independently of other facial structures, Meyer argues. A large Neandertal upper jaw laid the anatomical groundwork for a broad nose, he proposes. Citing measurements of Neandertal and modern skulls, Meyer and his colleagues find that the wider the upper jaw, the larger the nasal cavity.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; cold; didnt; evolve; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; need; noses

1 posted on 05/05/2005 8:54:12 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 05/05/2005 8:54:50 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

3 posted on 05/05/2005 8:58:18 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: cowboyway

He breathes with his gills, not the nose.


4 posted on 05/05/2005 8:59:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of the next Ann Coulter (only with more clothes on, and she eats.))
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To: blam

I don't know ... maybe yes ... maybe no ... who nose.


5 posted on 05/05/2005 9:43:26 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: blam

Reminds me of the old joke:

Why do ____________ (fill in with the group you are lampooning) have big noses?







Because they have big fingers!


6 posted on 05/05/2005 10:23:35 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (I have learned to deal with change. Any possibility of letting me try some currency?)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

7 posted on 05/06/2005 12:03:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: blam

Specific features evolve because at some time and probably for an extended time a bottleneck or "survival of the fittist" senario favored that feature. Once that feature is dominant in the genes of the survivors, that specific feature isn't going to instantly disappear just because the situation changed for the better.


8 posted on 05/06/2005 3:12:01 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: shuckmaster
Specific features evolve because at some time and probably for an extended time a bottleneck or "survival of the fittist" senario favored that feature.

Yep. I'm amazed by "science journalists" that explain evolution in Lamarck's terms -- environment forces change, rather than change fits the environment.

9 posted on 05/06/2005 3:32:27 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
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To: dread78645
*shrug* We're only human. We change the environment to suit us...
10 posted on 05/06/2005 7:34:47 AM PDT by null and void (...that no man, rich or poor, free or bond, shall buy or sell, save he that has the chip...)
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To: null and void; SunkenCiv

Yeah, good point.
The environment is cold, we build warmer shelters. I get cold, I find an extra blanket. I do not even consider growing a broader nose as an option.


11 posted on 05/06/2005 9:16:46 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
I do not even consider growing a broader nose as an option.

Lazy... :p

12 posted on 05/06/2005 10:57:24 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ValerieUSA; Berosus

Yeah I guess whoever came up with this theory...



[wait for it]



...really blew it.


13 posted on 05/06/2005 12:17:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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