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Buried Women 'Were In Amazon Fighting Tribe' (More)
Cumbria-Online ^ | 12-29-2004 | Pam McClounie

Posted on 12/29/2004 8:57:36 AM PST by blam

BURIED WOMEN ‘WERE IN AMAZON FIGHTING TRIBE’

Published in News & Star on Wednesday, December 29th 2004

Fierce: Women may have fought in the Roman army By Pam McClounie

TWO bodies unearthed from an ancient cemetery at Brougham, near Penrith, have changed experts’ views on Roman Britain.

For the 1,750-year-old remains – found at the site in the 1960s – have been identified as women warriors who may have been from the fabled Amazon fighting tribe of Eastern Europe.

The discovery has astonished archaeologists and historians because women were not previously known to have fought in the Roman army, which occupied Britain between 55BC and AD410.

The remains were found at a burial ground just off the M6 at Brougham. At the time Brougham was a fort and civilian settlement known as Brocavum.

Some of the items found in and around Carlisle as part of the excavation of Brougham cemetery in 1966 and 1967 were on display in Tullie House museum. They included a murdered man’s skull and burial tombstones.

Experts believe the two women warriors died between AD220 and AD300. They had been burnt on pyres along with their horses and military equipment.

One of the women – believed to be aged between 20 and 40 – was discovered with the burnt remnants of animals. Possessions of bone veneer, a sword scabbard and red pottery buried with her suggest she was of high status.

The other woman, thought to have been between 21 and 45, was buried with a silver bowl, a sword scabbard, bone veneer and ivory. The pair are believed to have been part of the numerii, a Roman irregular unit.

Other finds at the site suggest the unit in which the women served was originally from the Danube region of central and eastern Europe, where the ancient Greeks said the fearsome Amazon warriors could be found.

The Amazons were considered very brave, daring, fearless and dignified fighters and reputed as skilled horsewomen. However, tales that they cut off one breast to make it easier to fire a bow and arrow are believed to be unfounded.

The bodies of the two Roman women warriors were among 180 from the third century AD.

Full-scale analysis and identification had to wait until the last few years, when the technology needed for a full assessment of the remains became available.

Recent scientific advances have finally allowed archaeologists to determine the ages and gender of the dead.

Hilary Cool, director of Barbican Research Associates, which specialises in post excavation archaeological analysis, said the find is changing our understanding of Roman burial sites.

“It seems highly probable that we have a unit raised in the Danubian lands and transferred to Britain,” she said.

“Though the numerii are generally referred to as irregular units, they are not thought of as having women among their ranks.

“However, the unit came from the area where the Ancient Greeks placed the origin of women warriors called Amazons.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amazon; archaeology; buried; fighting; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; more; tribe; women
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1 posted on 12/29/2004 8:57:38 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Reminds me a little of the movie King Arthur... in any case, interesting article.


2 posted on 12/29/2004 8:59:29 AM PST by Kurt_D
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

Women Warriors From Amazon Fought For Britain's Roman Army

3 posted on 12/29/2004 9:00:37 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

"may have been from the fabled "

Very hard, clear, forceful statement.


4 posted on 12/29/2004 9:01:34 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: blam
When I lived in southern Russia, a friend of mine had told me that legend had it the Amazons were from that region. The region is known as "the Kuban", named for the river that runs through it. He also said that the Golden Fleece came from what is now the Republic of Georgia.
5 posted on 12/29/2004 9:01:49 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: blam

6 posted on 12/29/2004 9:09:16 AM PST by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
When I lived in southern Russia, a friend of mine had told me that legend had it the Amazons were from that region.

The first wearers of "svimvear" and "eveninkvear".

7 posted on 12/29/2004 9:10:03 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: blam
20-40 and 21-45. Umm, yeah, that's some distinction.

There have been women fighting in armies since the beginning of time. However interesting the find is, it's nothing surprising.

8 posted on 12/29/2004 9:11:02 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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It just goes to show you that we are more civilized.

When our women fight they are usually covered in baby oil or whipped cream and we charge admission.

9 posted on 12/29/2004 9:12:59 AM PST by AreaMan
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The first wearers of "svimvear" and "eveninkvear".

I remember the old "Wendy's" commercial. But...remember Anna Kournikova?

10 posted on 12/29/2004 9:15:16 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Complete with matching beach ball and flashlight (best commercial--ever)
11 posted on 12/29/2004 9:18:02 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Thanks Blam for the update.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

12 posted on 12/29/2004 9:18:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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First there were "Dykes on Horses", only later dykes on bikes.


13 posted on 12/29/2004 9:24:53 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Xenalyte
BURIED WOMEN ‘WERE IN AMAZON FIGHTING TRIBE’

Friends of yours?

14 posted on 12/29/2004 9:25:37 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (amazonfightingtribe.com)
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The Amazons were considered very brave, daring, fearless and dignified fighters and reputed as skilled horsewomen. However, tales that they cut off one breast to make it easier to fire a bow and arrow are believed to be unfounded.

How can the first part..Brave, fearless,etc be held to be true?

and the last part...cutting off one breast, believed to be unfounded?

No one can know weather any of it is true. No one really knows.

Maybe they werent even Amazons..Maybe they were just the
Prostitutes of the male warrior. and were burnt up on the pire with the rest of his property?

Just Decendants of Nancy Pelosi.


15 posted on 12/29/2004 9:36:20 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: blam

Zena?


16 posted on 12/29/2004 9:42:13 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Darkchylde; Darksheare

ping


17 posted on 12/29/2004 9:49:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Mother of the 3 Darks *sigh*)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I'm going to assume (until further evidence proves otherwise) that these may have been banshees hired by the romans as assassins (or even assassins OF romans)

This would explain the region, the (murdered man's) skull, and the gender.


18 posted on 12/29/2004 10:10:09 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: blam

Trust me, you still don't mess with women from Carlisle.

(Ducking and running in case any Cumbrians spot this southerner dissing their women-folk.)


19 posted on 12/29/2004 10:10:20 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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Buried Women 'Were In Amazon Fighting Tribe'

And now they sell books and DVDs on their own web site.

20 posted on 12/29/2004 10:10:28 AM PST by Jonah Hex (A Freeper is the real man a liberal's girlfriend wishes she had.)
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