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Stone Defends Alexander
Megastar.com ^ | 18 November 2004 | Sid Billington

Posted on 11/18/2004 11:03:39 AM PST by Racehorse

"Alexander lived in a more honest time," Stone told Playboy magazine. As you do.

"We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing. Pre-Christian morality. Young boys were with boys when they wanted to be."

But Stone said he had no interest in showing gay sex scenes. "You only need five words. Alexander says, 'Stay with me tonight, Hephaistion,' and you get it. If you don't get it, f*** you, it's your problem."

(Excerpt) Read more at megastar.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alcoholism; alexander; alexanderthegreat; archaeology; entertainment; film; gay; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; homosexuality; movies; oliverstone
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I suppose this confirms the rumors are true. Wonder if the film is also as bad as rumored?
1 posted on 11/18/2004 11:03:40 AM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse
So what's Stone's angle here..?
Was there a second bowman on the citadel wall?
2 posted on 11/18/2004 11:05:05 AM PST by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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Nope. He fired from the grassy copse.

(It's the flagon with the dragon, not the vessel with the pestle.)

3 posted on 11/18/2004 11:07:10 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: Racehorse

I've hated every movie Stone has ever made, without exception. Especially The Doors, which should have been one of the best movies ever made, but was pathetic. They should've let Kubrik do it.


4 posted on 11/18/2004 11:08:59 AM PST by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: Racehorse
"We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing. Pre-Christian morality. Young boys were with boys when they wanted to be."

Ah yes, the good ol' days...

5 posted on 11/18/2004 11:10:52 AM PST by EA_Man
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To: Racehorse

Lived in a more honest time. Huh. And there aren't bisexuals walking the street today? Whatever.

Its called corrupt, not honest, Oliver.


6 posted on 11/18/2004 11:13:57 AM PST by kemathen7
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To: Racehorse
Wonder if the film is also as bad as rum

Worse than bad. I went to a pre-screening (radio-station prize thingie) it was so horrible I lect after 30 minutes. I have seen better cinematography on "Americas Funniest Home Video" It is aparent that Stone has had his turn in the spotlight and is trying, ever so hard, to return to the limelight. Alex, is SOOOOOOO bad, I wouldn't even let a DU'er go see it.

Semper Indigestion

7 posted on 11/18/2004 11:14:52 AM PST by Trident/Delta ("Veni..Vedi..Velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around......")
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To: 50sDad
The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!


8 posted on 11/18/2004 11:16:20 AM PST by CR
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To: EA_Man

I picked-up on that note, but there is some historical debate about whether the translations of Alexander's relationships. The debate has not been closed, and it might be that he had affection for other men, but affection can be more than one thing. There is physical affection, and emotional affection. In many societies it is not uncommon for men to have very close emotional affection for one another without showing any physical affection.


9 posted on 11/18/2004 11:17:15 AM PST by Sthitch
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Lived in a more honest time. Huh. And there aren't bisexuals walking the street today? Whatever.

Ah, so this film is some kind of political statement from Stone about contemporary American culture?
I didn't realize that Alexander the Great was an American...
10 posted on 11/18/2004 11:18:03 AM PST by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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"I've hated every movie Stone has ever made, without exception. Especially The Doors, which should have been one of the best movies ever made, but was pathetic. They should've let Kubrik do it."

He did "Nixon" didn't he? I kind of liked that, I like Nixon.

You're right the rest is pure crap...

Thanks for the post, now I'm definitely not going to see this trash.

nick

Want a good movie? Go see Friday Night Lights.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 11:19:30 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Racehorse
If you don't get it, f*** you, it's your problem."

Ahh, Oliver...You're such a refined and erudite gentleman.

12 posted on 11/18/2004 11:20:11 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: Racehorse
Ollie is a blot on the 32nd infantry.
13 posted on 11/18/2004 11:20:49 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: Racehorse
But Stone said he had no interest in showing gay sex scenes. "You only need five words. Alexander says, 'Stay with me tonight, Hephaistion,' and you get it. If you don't get it, f*** you, it's your problem."

Nice to see Stone has such respect for his audience!

14 posted on 11/18/2004 11:25:29 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Trident/Delta
Worse than bad. I went to a pre-screening (radio-station prize thingie) it was so horrible I lect after 30 minutes. I have seen better cinematography on "Americas Funniest Home Video"

Though I would not wish suffering upon you, I kinda wish you had stayed.  One review claims he switched into Natural Born Killers mode half way through the thing.  That alone would kill any desire I might have had to see the movie.

The History Channel documentary was also a disaster, I think.  They had three hours to tell in detail how Alexander accomplished his conquests and they fell two hours and thirty minutes short of the mark.  Even Indian/Buddhist culture was changed by this man.  Heck, even Buddha was changed.  After his arrival, images of the Buddha reflected a decidedly Hellenic influence.

15 posted on 11/18/2004 11:31:08 AM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

This really disappoints me. Being a real history buff, I was looking forward to this movie. Then I discovered it was a Oliver Stone movie. Well, I thought, maybe it will still be good like Salvador (a Stone movie which actually turned out good in large part due to a stellar performance by James Woods.) Now I hear he's really going to push the gay thing. Gee, I just wanted to watch how he conquored the known world by the age of thirty, all in a dramatic fashion. Leave it to Oliver Store to make an historical epoch that even a history buff wouldn't want to see.


16 posted on 11/18/2004 11:31:50 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Racehorse
f*** you

I get it, Oliver.

17 posted on 11/18/2004 11:32:37 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Racehorse
I suppose this confirms the rumors are true.

No. It doesn't. The fact is that we don't know. The 'academic' research that claims Alexander was gay/bisexual is about on par with the 'research' that claims Jesus was gay. It is poor science blended with a gay activist agenda.

It is true homo/bisexuality was more common in ancient Greece. Alexander may have been, but there is simply no compelling evidence of it. We simply don't know.

18 posted on 11/18/2004 11:33:30 AM PST by blanknoone (The last time the Dems seceded it was to keep blacks as slaves.)
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Thanks for the heads up...I'll put this on my list to watch right behind Fahrenheit 911 and some time before hell freezes over.


19 posted on 11/18/2004 11:48:43 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Manic_Episode

Actually the only Stone film I really like is "Wall Street".
Although I really hate the ending.


20 posted on 11/18/2004 11:50:49 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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