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'Indonesia Jones' Theory Of Africa
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 1-12-2004 | Rory Carroll

Posted on 01/11/2004 7:52:43 PM PST by blam

'Indonesia Jones' theory for Africa

Rory Carroll in Cape Town
Monday January 12, 2004
The Guardian (UK)

They were Africa's Vikings. Tough, daring voyagers who sailed thousands of miles to pluck riches from unmapped lands known today as Zimbabwe, Mozambique, South Africa and Nigeria. Centuries before Europeans, mariners from Indonesia raided and traded across the continent, filling their vessels with gold and silver for the princes of Java and Sumatra.

In return they gave Africa the secrets of iron and bronze, exotic plants such as banana and yams, and a new culture enriched with music, architecture and spirituality.

And then the seafarers vanished. Some died, some returned home, others inter-married with the locals. So absorbed was the Asian influence that by the time the white man came he never noticed it.

So says a controversial new theory about Africa's development more than 2,000 years ago which could revive a racially tinged debate about whether outsiders fathered certain advances in technology, agriculture and art.

The researcher making these claims is no professional historian. Robert Dick-Read never finished university and has no academic qualifications.

But his self-confessed "obsession" with Indonesia's influence has fuelled more than 50 years' lonely slog collecting evidence which has been turned into a manuscript which will, he hopes, prove his case.

Some experts have rubbished Mr Dick-Read as misguided, but others say the "Indonesia Jones" thesis is plausible.

An unrelated attempt to demonstrate that mariners from south Asia could have reached west Africa is halfway to success: an expedition which reconstructed a ship illustrated in the reliefs of an 8th century Buddhist temple in Java has crossed the Indian Ocean and reached South Africa, destination Ghana.

After stopping in Cape Town last week the 15-strong crew will resume the voyage today, said Mujoko, an Indonesian crew member. "We believe our ancestors came here. When we finish I think historians will appreciate that this voyage would have been possible."

It is generally agreed that approximately 1,500 years ago sailors from Indonesia and Malaysia, famed navigators who roved the Pacific, also sailed 3,700 miles west and settled Madagascar, a vast island off Mozambique.

It might be expected that they also explored the African mainland, just 150 miles further away, but unlike Madagascar there is little evidence: people on the continent do not resemble or talk like Indonesians.

Historians have noted fragments of Asian influence across Africa - plants, craftwork, instruments - but largely rejected the notion that it came via fleets of Indonesian double-outrigger canoes.

Inspired by a 1959 seminar at London's School of Oriental and African Studies, Mr Dick-Read, 73, has spent decades travelling the continent bolting those fragments into a radical theory of "Africa's vikings" which he hopes to publish this year.

Indonesian spices such as cassia and cinnamon which ancient Rome imported came not via India but east Africa after an epic sea voyage, he says, which would also explain how early iron age pottery spread so quickly in the first and second century AD down the coast from Kenya all the way to South Africa.

Plants such as banana, plantain and yam are widely believed to have originated in Indonesia and Mr Dick-Read cites oral and written accounts of rituals related to the food which suggest they reached west Africa too early for overland travellers.

Mr Dick-Read says pottery and bronze sculptures found in Nigeria also came from seafarers since they were too far from Saharan trade routes and too sophisticated for indigenous artwork of that time.

Sir Mervyn Brown, Britain's former ambassador to Madagascar and a historian of the region, found Mr Dick-Read's conclusions "generally plausible" and urged fresh research.

"Dick-Read has not provided any great new revelations in this area but has produced more detailed supporting evidence," he said. "The influence in west Africa is not generally known, even among academics."

Other historians disagree. Robert Soper, an authority on east Africa, said there was no known evidence from artefacts, for example, of Indonesians spreading the iron age down the coast.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; indonesia; jones; southasia; theory
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To: JimSEA

Korat Plateau

21 posted on 01/11/2004 9:57:01 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
All I want to know is, "Did they have red hair?"
22 posted on 01/12/2004 8:06:50 AM PST by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: blam
All I want to know is, "Did they have red hair?"
23 posted on 01/12/2004 8:06:51 AM PST by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Henchman
"All I want to know is, "Did they have red hair?"

Don't know. I wouldn't rule it out completely yet. But, not likely.

24 posted on 01/12/2004 8:09:24 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Sorry not to respond last night. We live in Chiang Mai Thailand 7-9 months a year. This last fall we took a drive through the Korat Plateau and along the Mekong. It was really a totally interesting and beautiful trip. After many years of going to Thailand for business, etc., it is nice to be able to wander arround on our own pace. Almost every place you stop has something of interest.

Two web sights come to mind vis-a-vis Thai / Southeast Asian Archaeology.

U of Penn: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~csherman/

U of Hawaii: http://www2.soc.hawaii.edu/css/anth/projects/banchiang/banchiang.htm

25 posted on 01/12/2004 10:14:17 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
"Two web sights come to mind vis-a-vis Thai / Southeast Asian Archaeology."

Thanks, I'll spend some time there later.

26 posted on 01/12/2004 10:35:54 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
While it is an assertion of Egyptologists that ancient Egypt was gradually build by local tribes, is it possible that it was these voyagers from Malaysia?
27 posted on 01/12/2004 11:00:30 AM PST by RightWhale (How many technological objections will be raised?)
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"...is it possible that it was these voyagers from Malaysia?"

Yup. Dr Robert Schoch believes they were the culture of pyramid builders, all over the world.

28 posted on 01/12/2004 12:47:34 PM PST by blam
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To: Professional Engineer
ping
29 posted on 01/12/2004 7:17:17 PM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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Not a ping, just a GGG update, and adding the keywords.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

30 posted on 03/25/2005 7:58:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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31 posted on 12/31/2014 7:11:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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