Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Plato Treasure Map Leads Atlantis Hunter to Cyprus
Science - Reuters ^ | 2003-10-29 | Michele Kambas and Jean Christou

Posted on 10/30/2003 1:44:23 PM PST by Junior

An image from Robert Sarmast's book ' Discovery of Atlantis: The Startling Case for the Island of Cyprus' claims to show the location of the legendary land Atlantis as part of a land mass that connected Cyprus and the Middle East. Drawn from accounts by the ancient Athenian lawmaker Solon, Plato's description of a powerful civilization destroyed by the wrath of God has fired the dreams of explorers for centuries. Using deep-sea imagery, simulations of the sea bed, and following some 50 clues found in Plato's Critias and Timaeus Dialogues, Sarmast said he has discovered a sunken rectangular land mass stretching northeast from Cyprus, toward Syria. Cypriot scholar Sophocles Hadjisavvas is highly skeptical of Sarmast's theory, 'This is mere speculation and has nothing to do with reality,' he said. 'But it is good for Cyprus tourism,' he added. (Origin Press/Reuters)

 

MOUNT OLYMPUS, Cyprus (Reuters) - Some say it is in the Aegean, others in the Azores, off the Celtic Ridge of Britain or even as far as the South China Sea, but an American researcher says everyone has been looking in the wrong place.

Atlantis was in Cyprus and ancient philosopher Plato is about to be vindicated, according to Robert Sarmast.

"The island of Cyprus was, or is, part of Atlantis -- a mountaintop," Sarmast said from his home in Los Angeles. "This region is at the heart of the ancient world."

Drawn from accounts by the ancient Athenian lawmaker Solon, Plato's description of a powerful civilization destroyed by the wrath of God has fired the dreams of explorers for centuries.

Of late, it has inspired fantasies of webbed-limbed people living in glass bubbles on the sea bed; of old, it was thought by some to be the Garden of Eden, where mankind fell from God's grace.

Geologists say the land mass of Cyprus's central mountain range once formed the ocean floor. Sarmast says the mountainous island was the tip of the civilization submerged in a devastating earthquake (news - web sites) and flood thousands of years ago.

Using deep-sea imagery, simulations of the sea bed, and following some 50 clues found in Plato's Critias and Timaeus Dialogues, Sarmast said he has discovered a sunken rectangular land mass stretching northeast from Cyprus, toward Syria.

"Everything matches the descriptions in the dialogues of Atlantis to an uncanny degree," said Sarmast.

Using scientific data collected a decade ago, Sarmast said he came up with detailed three-dimensional maps and simulated models of the eastern Mediterranean basin.

"We lowered the sea level by 1,600 meters (5,250 feet) and an island popped up," he said.

Having written a book about his discovery, Sarmast now hopes to organize an expedition to the region for further research.

SCHOLARS SKEPTICAL

His theory has been challenged by archeologists, who say the Atlantis story is a myth.

Sarmast, however, says the sheer volume of detail found in the dialogues is proof enough that something is lurking in the watery deep. The dialogues read like a treasure map," he said.

Although theories on where Atlantis was are many and varied, most believers agree the ancient city was probably destroyed in the biblical flood, which has its parallel in the history of the Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Egyptians and South Americans.

Plato describes a series of worldwide floods culminating in the deluge of the Deucalion, dated by Greek historians to the end of the last Ice Age, about 10,000 BC.

According to those ancient texts, Atlantis was a powerful nation whose residents became so corrupted by greed and power that Zeus, the king of the gods, destroyed it.

Cypriot scholars are skeptical of Sarmast's conclusions.

"The possibility of Cyprus being Atlantis is next to zero," said Plato scholar Sofronis Sofroniou.

"Cyprus is mentioned by Homer and other people and there is no mention of that.

"If Cyprus was Atlantis, it would probably have been mentioned. There is absolutely no basis for this theory."

Sophocles Hadjisavvas, director of the Antiquities Department, agrees. "This is mere speculation and has nothing to do with reality," he said.

"Atlantis is mythology, but even mythology speaks of Atlantis being outside the Gates of Hercules in the Atlantic," he said, referring to the Straits of Gibraltar.

"But it is good for Cyprus tourism," he added.

Sarmast won't be swayed. "Heinrich Schliemann discovered Troy by following clues in Homer's Iliad," he said, referring to the German explorer who found what he thought was the ancient city of Troy in 1873. "Before that archeologists said it was a myth. It wasn't, and nor is Atlantis."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: archaeology; atlantis; cyprus; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history

1 posted on 10/30/2003 1:44:24 PM PST by Junior
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: blam; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; Piltdown_Woman; RadioAstronomer
A purely platonic ping...
2 posted on 10/30/2003 1:45:10 PM PST by Junior ("Your superior intellects are no match for our puny weapons!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Junior
I'm still going to bet on Thera, augmented with fanciful exaggerations.
3 posted on 10/30/2003 1:47:35 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Question_Assumptions
I'm still going to bet on Thera, augmented with fanciful exaggerations.

I second that.

I think that the Moses story, likewise, is a historical record of that event filtered thru many writers' imaginations.

4 posted on 10/30/2003 2:09:28 PM PST by Dominic Harr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Junior
It would be easier to find El Dorado.

SEVEN CITIES OF CÍBOLA. Among the myths that propelled Spaniards into the far reaches of northern New Spain (Colonial Mexico) was the legend of the Seven Cities. That myth was an outgrowth of the Muslim conquest of Portugal in the early eighth century. Allegedly, in 714 seven Catholic bishops and their faithful followers had fled across the Atlantic to a land known as Antilia, the name of which, incidentally, was the source of the name Antilles, which was initially applied to the West Indian islands of the Caribbean. The Antilian islands failed to produce large quantities of gold and silver, and by 1539 lands reported on by Cabeza de Vacaqv and his companions were believed to contain an El Dorado known as Cíbola. In that year, Viceroy Antonio de Mendoza dispatched Fray Marcos de Niza and the African Estevanicoqv on a reconnoitering expedition. This exploration cost the life of Estevanico at Háwikuh, the southernmost of the Zuñi pueblos in western New Mexico. On his return to New Spain, Fray Marcos reported seeing golden cities, the smallest of which was larger than Mexico City. In 1540 the follow-up expedition of Francisco Vázquez de Coronadoqv captured Háwikuh and learned the true nature of it as well as other nearby pueblos. In the following year, disappointment over the Seven Cities of Cíbola prompted Coronado to launch a futile search for Quiviraqv-an undertaking that crossed the Panhandle.qv
5 posted on 10/30/2003 2:22:17 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Junior
Plato is about to be vindicated

Mickey Mouse will be relieved that nice things are being said about his dog!

6 posted on 10/30/2003 2:27:23 PM PST by expat_panama
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: expat_panama
That's "Pluto"...
7 posted on 10/30/2003 2:28:31 PM PST by Junior ("Your superior intellects are no match for our puny weapons!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Junior
oh...

--I knew that.

8 posted on 10/30/2003 2:31:09 PM PST by expat_panama
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Dominic Harr
I think that the Moses story, likewise, is a historical record of that event filtered thru many writers' imaginations.

Guess that would explain the chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea.

9 posted on 10/30/2003 2:35:24 PM PST by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Junior
Nonsense. Plato's description places it clearly outside the Pillars of Hercules thus in the Atlantic Ocean. He even mentions the continent to the West of Atlantis i.e. the Americas.

How do these clowns get money for such "research?" I want some.
10 posted on 10/30/2003 2:39:38 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Junior
To us contrarians, it's perfectly obvious that Atlantis was located near present-day Secaucus, New Jersey, because that's the only place left where it hasn't been 'found'.
11 posted on 10/30/2003 3:07:38 PM PST by Grut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: madison10
Guess that would explain the chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea.

Interestingly enough, it turns out that the original text did not say "Red Sea", that was a mis-translation. It said, "Sea of Reeds".

The 'Sea of Reeds' is a shallow marshy area on the coast.

So the theory goes: Thera blows up, sending massive tidal waves across the Mediterranean. Before a tidal wave comes on shore, the water receeds. In one case in Hawaii, the water receeded nearly a mile out. A school teacher, not knowing what was coming, took her class down on to the dry sea bed looking for shells . . .

This seems to be a clear description of what happened in the Exodus story, to me. Water receeds, the Jews walk across, army follows, the tidal wave crashes into them.

Incidentally, the earthquakes and tidal waves also destroyed the Mycenean world -- I believe that the story of the Trojan Horse and the Odysey, also, are a historical record of this event filtered thru the imaginations of many writers.

12 posted on 10/31/2003 6:50:33 AM PST by Dominic Harr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Junior; PatrickHenry
I was going to say something smartass about PH's little friend. I googled "plato the platypus" and found

When rednecks take a shine to AC/DC, Plato and the platypus

Quote from an Aussie interview:

But wait there's more. It seems our fauna has significance, too.

"That platypus is going to be my theme animal," Scotch says. "You've got all these biologists wanting to put everything into some kind of category: a mammal, a reptile, amphibian, bird, fish, right down to these single-cell protozoa. It's the same with music: we've got these music Nazis who want to put all music into categories and I want to show them the platypus because here's an animal who by the sheer fact that he's alive is a big ol' f--- you, a big ol' middle finger to all people who want to categorise. Hayseed Dixie, we're like that platypus."

..Hillbillies, learned hillbillies...

For a good ol' boy from Deer Lick Holler, Scotch is amazingly familiar with Australian fauna and biology, isn't he? And maybe even philosophy, for the car crash also offered up a copy of Nietzsche's Beyond Good And Evil...

I also found a a poem about Plato the Platy

a bathtub toy,

a comic strip starring Plato the Platy,

and a bookstore that starts off looking like Betty Boop is the proprietor, but segues into Marvel Comics, "Platypus and the Birthday Party", and textbooks on complex analysis, nursing, drawing, sex, etc.

That little fellow really gets around.

13 posted on 11/01/2003 11:34:44 PM PST by Virginia-American
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Virginia-American
Yeah, since I stopped using Plato as my logo, the little fella has been getting around. He still sends me postcards from time to time.
14 posted on 11/02/2003 3:46:16 AM PST by PatrickHenry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Another oldie.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

15 posted on 02/18/2005 1:23:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("Are you an over due book? Because you've got FINE written all over you!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

16 posted on 08/25/2006 12:01:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson