Posted on 01/27/2016 12:51:33 AM PST by monkapotamus
Trump said he would host his own Iowa town hall to raise money for veterans and let other networks cover it. One clear sign of the gravity of tonight's development is the sense of confusion that is swirling throughout Fox. The network is split between Kelly's allies like Brit Hume and conservative anchors that are furious that Kelly - who graces the cover of Vanity Fair this month - has become the face of the network. An anchor fumed that Kelly hosted Michael Moore on her program tonight and the lefty filmmaker defended her against Trump. "That would be like Rachel Maddow laughing along with Charles Koch as he trashed Hillary Clinton!" the anchor said. One producer speculated that Fox could go "National Review" on Trump and start attacking him...
No matter how loudly GOP candidates complained about Fox's loutish politics in private, none risked taking Ailes on in public for fear of losing access to this crucial constituency - until Trump, that is. Even if Trump's boycott backfires, he's already achieved a historic victory: Exploding the myth that a Republican candidate can't openly challenge Fox.
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If you read my statement, “That is not true,” in context, the thing that is not true is Cruz’ claim that some believe only NBCs can produce NBCs. It is Cruz’ integrity or intelligence that I am questioning. Since he most likely IS very smart, it comes down to his honesty. I.e.: his statement that some so called birthers believe that only NBCs can create NBCs is a conniving lie.
You call it a secondary point but it isn’t. It has direct bearing on your main argument, which is that Cruz outperformed Trump in the debate. If you call creating an idiotic and fundamentally dishonest strawman, for the creepy purpose of dragging Trump’s mother into the debate, ‘winning,’ then you’re using that word as a liberal would. Lie, cheat, scam or steal, providing the liberal comes out on top, he ‘won.’
Conservatives have a more principled definition.
Your clarification, btw, does nothing to help Cruz’ cause. He didn’t say some radical birthers believe a genealogy must be traced back to the country’s original citizens. He said that they believe only NBCs can produce NBCs—an absurdity on its face.
Did you dream that up all by yourself? Trump could most likely buy Fox News.
“Actually when a country starts off and the starting citizens are considered citizens that are already there. It is not impossible.”
Ted Cruz said “two parents born on U.S. soil,” and there was no U.S. soil until 2-4 July 1776. The first generation of U.S. citizens were not born on U.S. soil, and the proposition that natural born citizens can only be born from natural born citizen parents is a nonsensical lie and fraud.
Oh bull
His wall and Mexican rhetoric made him
“.... spin ...Trump is afraid of a girl”...
It would be so ridiculous if that were to stick, because that sidetracks the actual scenario which is:
The interrogators, i.e., the media moderators; no matter WHICH GENDER THEY MIGHT BE, have all of the power in these situations.
The exact parallel is an American Idol type situation where the judges control the rules completely and totally and have absolute power over the contestants.
Trump is smart enough to abstain completely from an inherently no-win dynamic and I am amazed it took so long before any one of these candidates realized that it was time to walk away from this charade.
The venue is unfair and all should cry foul and walk away.
Whether the moderator is male or female, liberal or conservative - no matter - it is the PROCESS that has gone bad.
Go Trump. And don’t give in - this is NOT going to hurt you in the big picture AT ALL.
“Then, Trump can be in his safety zone, the big pansy.”
That is about as misguided as calling Sam Houston a pansy for retreating before selecting his own choice of battlefield before the battle that routed the Mexican Army and captured General Santa Ana. Love him or hate him, Trump has just demonstrated a superb understanding of strategy and tactics.
Why should Trump grant that to Cruz when he’s killing him nationally
They are fighting over Iowa
“Here Ted I’ll give you all this airtime free to try to catch up with me”
Seems to be what this thread is talking about... look it over and get back to me.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3382200/posts
The term "or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" referred to loyal Americans who lived in the thirteen colonies at the time of the Revolutionary War, thus establishing the first generation of United States "citizens," upon which future "natural born" citizens would be created. The Founders, under Article II, allowed these original U.S. citizens to be eligible for the Presidency.
As understood by the Founders and as applied to the U.S. Constitution, the term "natural born citizen" derived its meaning less from English Common Law, than from Vattel's "The Law of Nations."
They knew from reading Vattel that a "natural born citizen" had a different standard from just "citizen," for he or she was a child born in the country to two citizen parents (Vattel, Section 212 in original French and English translation).
You mean based on Trump’s vast military experience gained in the boarding school he brags about? Yeah, he’s a regular Navy Seal, a real operator. LOL.
Looks to me as if he's working up an excuse to drop out and run as an independent.
Where is Ross Perot when we need him?
I agree. I’ve said that all along too. Great minds think alike.
>> His fans may love it, but it does his favorability numbers with other voters no good <<
The General Election will come down to a few swing states — Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, maybe Nevada or New Hampshire.
If anybody can explain how Trump’s antics will help him carry those “purple” states, I’m all ears.
You laugh, but the real world fact is the man has outmaneuvered more politicians, union leaders, industrialists, bankers, and assorted other major power figures than all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff combined in their lifetimes. Anyone underestimating Trump tends to find themselves outmaneuvered and in trouble. Trump has given warnings this situation could happen, and Roger Ailes and Rupert Murcdoch had their bluff called like in a high stakes poker game. Trump knows he has a better hand to play than Murdoch and Ailes, so he is not afraid to do so.
You are misquoting and misapplying Vattel to twist and reverse the meaning. As I previously quoted and you ignored:
The Supreme Court of the United States said: The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)...Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),...was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen....â€
ANYONE with money can now create a news network that inclues conservative and make a bundle. FOX is now officially the networks of the GOPe and democratys. Eff 'em.
Gabriel Sherman - thanks for the tagline
Birds of a feather...
Yeah right - all the other times Trump bested Cruz don’t count, right? This TIME it would have been different .. you gotta be kidding me.
“If anybody can explain how Trump’s antics will help him carry those “purple†states, I’m all ears.”
Trump is polling high with normally democrat voters, that’s how.
Or maybe Brit and Megyn can work with ‘objective ABC journalists’ like George (run the Clinton War Room) Stephanopoulos... The trio could have a show called "3 elite suckups strutting superiority". Sell outs. Totalitarian wannabees... Delusions of royalty.
Here's a flash Brit Hume - countries run by 'elites' are always hellholes. Eventually the elites start nationalizing the choices they make ( that only benefit themselves ) and start fearing the people. Sound familiar?
It's so predictable a slide to the bottom... Real journalists REPORT on the news they don't delude themselves they're THE NEWS. Real journalists aren't kingmakers. They report. Period. A pox on the megalomaniac filth at FOX News...
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