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A key argument against taking Donald Trump's candidacy seriously is evaporating
Business Insider ^ | 1 hour ago 10/11/15 | Maxwell Tani

Posted on 10/11/2015 11:16:38 AM PDT by entropy12

Donald Trump's continued dominance of the Republican presidential field has confounded many top pollsters and analysts since he soared to the top of the field in July. And a new poll shows that Trump may not be finished surprising them yet.

A CBS poll released on Sunday found Trump largely in the same position he has been in most major polls in the last several months: on top.

The real-estate mogul again led the pack, with 27% of likely Republican primary voters picking him as their preferred nominee as of today.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: New York; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; newyork; trump
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To: entropy12

“A key argument against taking Donald Trump’s candidacy seriously is evaporating”

How sad. Sad for lying, hypocritical, cringing, PC, GOPe, RINO, DC insider scum who practice hours a day in front of the mirror pretending to be holier than thou, meanwhile selling out the workers of this country for hundreds of millions of dollars of campaign “contributions” from the rich and powerful oligarchs. Sad for billionaires and oligarchs everywhere that they’re unable to buy the leading candidate and will be forced to waste their money buying only losers.


61 posted on 10/11/2015 12:38:46 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Cold Heat
The only difference I see between Trump and the series of establishment republicans we have been forced to hold our nose and vote for is that Trump is not a establishment candidate.

I know.

Trumps unfettered support for endless immigration is but one of the symptoms you could have referenced.

62 posted on 10/11/2015 12:40:01 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: COBOL2Java

“Worship of a politician on a mass scale can be dangerous. Supporters need to lead with their heads, not their emotions.”

I agree with that.

That’s why I said the Trump worship makes me uncomfortable.

But I don’t think it is a sizable amount. I don’t think it is anything to worry about.


63 posted on 10/11/2015 12:41:56 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Cold Heat

It bothers me to see this, to be honest. I mean, for myself, I entered this thing solidly behind Ted Cruz. He was my guy, and in many ways, he still is. So is Trump. If either win the nom, I’ll happily vote for them. For that matter, WHOEVER wins the nom will get my vote. I’m not into withholding my vote in protest, because it has absolutely no effect on the grand scheme of things, other than to I guess absolve the non-voter of responsibility for choosing the “wrong” candidate. Friendly rivalry is one thing, but some of the nastiness I see fired off between people who should be on the same idealogical irritates the hell out of me.


64 posted on 10/11/2015 12:44:05 PM PDT by jonrd463
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To: Cold Heat
So that’s supposed to be a compromise?

That's a fair question. For some folks, putting Cruz in some sort of secondary slot is a compromise. For me, it's more of a reality thing. I like what Trump is saying, but I trust Cruz more.

Now here comes the reality thing. I could be wrong, but I see Trump as being much more electable. We simply cannot let Hillary or Sanders or Biden win in 2016! The damage Obama has already done would become irreversible.

Your average low-info voter has no idea who Cruz is, and will believe whatever the MSM tells them. But Trump is Trump. So Trump/Cruz makes sense.

65 posted on 10/11/2015 12:48:28 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

I love Rubio’s dimples!


Do they make up for that toupee?


66 posted on 10/11/2015 12:50:20 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Cold Heat; Leaning Right; All
Yeah, I keep seeing all these combination second, third and fourth fiddle jobs for cruz in a trump administration... So that’s supposed to be a compromise? ... Frankly, with Donald being much more of a moderate politically, I would imagine that conservatives are not really what he would be looking for to appoint.

Well said.

From where I'm sitting, there's only one word for it, the same one I had when faced with the option of voting for Romney or voting for Obama as a way to fight for the American constitution.

"Nuts!"

It's time to start fighting like Americans, inclucing at the ballot box. Now I only vote for what I want to win. See my tagline.

67 posted on 10/11/2015 1:00:49 PM PDT by Finny (Voting "aganist" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: ifinnegan
You frustrated supporters of other candidates can call it worship, I call it FACTS. Read the FACTS and weep!

Trump is conservative on these issues:

Pro life since at least 2011, wanted to ban partial birth abortion as far back as 2000.
Pro Traditional marriage. "Gay rights is not my thing."
Pro capital punishment "Capital punishment isn't uncivilized; murderers living is"
Hold Judges accountable
Opposes "Common core is a disaster" Teach citizenship, quit "dumbing down".
Anti education unions (2000)
For school choice
"Climate Change is a hoax"
"No Cap-and-Tax"
For drilling our own.
On Environment "Good development enhances the environment"
Stressed the importance of a strong family & culture of life (2015)
Supports Israel
Opposes Iran deal and letting Iran obtain the bomb.
Wants to crush ISIS quickly.
Wants a military so strong no one will challenge us.
Against unbalanced trade deals that kill American jobs.
Against warrant-less government surveillance of citizens.
Is against having a high national debt. Warns that $24T is a point of no return.
Against gun control
For assault weapon ban but says the AR-15 shouldn't be considered an assault weapon.
Wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with market driven polices and increased competition among insurance companies.
Wants to increase military spending.
Will close the border to illegals
Will send the criminals and sponges back.
Will deport all illegals but will let the hard working ones go through the legal process to come back.
Against Anchor babies
Knows unemployment is much higher than official stats.
Will bring jobs back through better trade negotiation.
Attended military academy and Wharton Business School.
Stood up for Birthers and challenged Obama on his fraud. Believes USA is "the greatest force for freedom the world has ever known"
Wants to honor commitments on Social Security and Medicare, which we can afford to do if he gets the economy going full steam.
Wants to reduce the fraud in disability and other programs.
Against marriage penalties in tax code.
Wants to simplify tax code with just 3 simple brackets.
Wants to reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate tax.
Wants to rebuild our infrastructure.
Wants to apply welfare-to-work to 76 other welfare programs (2011)
Doesn't have time for political correctness.
Not afraid to call out either party or both when they are wrong.
Not a puppet to rich campaign donors.

68 posted on 10/11/2015 1:03:21 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his/her rich donors!)
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To: erod
Carson could be the Herman Cain of 2016. Not that I think Carson has any serious skeletons in his closet but we don't know much about him - just like we didn't know much about Cain in 2012 other than he ran a pizza chain.

With Trump, he's been in the limelight for decades and everything we know about him - real or imagined - has already been put out there. Political opponents really don't have the ammo they thought they were going to have. Trump can either adopt the Clintonian "That's old news" tack or he can just double-down and not only admit to whatever it was but state he's proud of it - a novel approach that his voters seem to love about him.

When Trump stated last week that he thought "eminent domain is a wonderful thing" - that just sucked the air right out of those critics who were hoping to finally have an issue to smack him around with.

Herman Cain exploded in popularity four years ago because people were even then so hungry for a non-politician that was successful in the private sector. Today, Trump is capitalizing on that and Carson is riding his coattails. My theory has been that Ben Carson provides a convenient place for would-be Trump supporters to park their vote for a while to see what happens with Trump. As it becomes more evident that Trump is in this to stay, look for a lot of the Carson support to peel off and go to Trump.

Between Trump, Carson and Fiorina, they have over 50% of the polling we have seen so far. The establishment candidates are polling in single digits and the only actual politician doing reasonably well is Ted Cruz - who is hated by most of the establishment.

This is a historical election and one that our grandkids will be asking us about many decades from now.

69 posted on 10/11/2015 1:04:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: Finny; Fiddlstix; All

So. . .who is your anointed one. . .you know, the one you support but FReeper haters out there would attack because he is not their anointed one.

Circular firing squad is in full force here on FR.


70 posted on 10/11/2015 1:05:44 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Finny; Cold Heat
Much of the real Trump will be exposed before the Nov. 2016 election. If Trump wins the nomination and picks Cruz for VP, that's one thing. But if he goes with a GOPe like Kasich or Christie...well, I'll bring a pencil to the voting booth and write in Sarah Palin.
71 posted on 10/11/2015 1:05:45 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SamAdams76

My theory has been that Ben Carson provides a convenient place for would-be Trump supporters to park their vote for a while to see what happens with Trump.


I’ve had the same thought.


72 posted on 10/11/2015 1:07:46 PM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Cold Heat

“knee-jerk” or “energized/motivated”

Big difference.

Energized/motivated voters make an election.


73 posted on 10/11/2015 1:07:47 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Cold Heat
It’s the same sort of emotionalism that elected Obama twice.

Point me at the candidate who has released more position papers then Trump.

Read his tax plan.

Perhaps you are too young to remember but there was a lot of emotionalism in Reagan's supporters in 1979-80 too. We knew who was on our side and who was not back then.

Rather then attack Trump and his supporters, try making a case FOR your candidate. You will find that a whole lot more effective.

74 posted on 10/11/2015 1:08:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: entropy12

The morons still dont get it. We want sovereignty and a closed controlled border, not a flood of illegals that has no loyalty to this country or is constitution. In other times this would be called an invasion. He’s the only one that will do something, all the others just talk and thats all they would do in office. Do people want to be north mexico or another central or south american shithole 3rd world country(every country south of the USA sucks, every single one, and its nothing to strive for)? I dont and I bet millions more dont either.


75 posted on 10/11/2015 1:09:44 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Balding_Eagle

Trump is pretty plain spoken when it comes to securing the border and stopping and deporting illegal aliens.

Legal immigration is okay.

It is terrible when democRATS misrepresent his stance regarding illegal/legal immigration.


76 posted on 10/11/2015 1:10:31 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: ifinnegan
I think of the Pied Piper, playing his flute being followed by a bunch of Americans who really hate Obamacare into the voting booth, and getting them to vote for a gentler, softer version of Obamacare just as charmed as can be.

Nuts.

I only vote for what I want to win. I want limited government conservatism to win.

77 posted on 10/11/2015 1:11:11 PM PDT by Finny (Voting "aganist" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/trump-endorses-mccain/

Trump Endorses McCain


78 posted on 10/11/2015 1:12:59 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: SamAdams76

I agree may the best candidate win.


79 posted on 10/11/2015 1:13:33 PM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: Finny

Trump endorses Romney

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/02/politics/campaign-wrap/


80 posted on 10/11/2015 1:14:19 PM PDT by Amntn
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