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Church of England to consider gender-neutral God: reports
Fox News ^ | February 7, 2023 4:35pm EST | Matteo Cina

Posted on 02/07/2023 3:16:50 PM PST by Olog-hai

The Church of England is considering referring to God in “non-gendered” terms during services, the Telegraph reported.

Breaking with centuries of tradition, bishops have announced they are launching a major “project on gendered language” this spring.

It may suggest that priests stop using the male pronouns “He” and “Him” when referring to God in some prayers, or even that they can drop the famous phrase “Our Father” from the start of the Lord’s Prayer.

The Reverend Joanna Stobart, a vicar in the diocese of Guildford, Surrey, said that some clergy want to refer to God without saying He or Him, particularly in prayers of forgiveness for sins, according to the report. […]

However, some traditionalists say this goes too far and will fear that the proposed introduction of gender-neutral language is another example of the church attempting to boost dwindling congregations as young people increasingly stay away. …

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TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: 2timothy3verses1to7; anglican; churchofengland; daniel12verse10; genderneutral; homosexualagenda; periloustimes; romans1verses18to32
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To: PeterPrinciple

That page gets Genesis 1:26-27 utterly wrong. The word they mistranslate as “humankind” is actually the Hebrew word “Adam”.

The Jews were in captivity in Babylon and then by the Medo-Persian Empire for seventy years; before that, there were plenty of pagan influences in Judah whose adherence unto led to the Judaean captivity in the first place. The so-called “androgyne” had clearly crept in from those pagan corruptions.


21 posted on 02/07/2023 3:51:58 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

“All right. You f’ing believers won’t leave of your own accord so we will drive you b***ards away!”


22 posted on 02/07/2023 3:52:14 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Of course God is “gender neutral”. God is a spiritual being.

And while I can see some folks keeping gender out of it for spiritual reasons, most people are probably doing it to be “woke”. My former denomination started having more literature out calling God a female! (To balance against the historical patriarchy or something.)

All that said, I'll stick with the male terminology. If it was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me.

23 posted on 02/07/2023 4:00:25 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It’s not wholly metaphorical.

God clearly refers to Himself as male. 2 Samuel 7:14 makes this clear, using the word “ab” and not “em” (mother).

The word in Old English that would be translated from “ish” in Numbers 23:19 would actually be “wer”. This word still survives in modern words like “werewolf”.


24 posted on 02/07/2023 4:00:54 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.


25 posted on 02/07/2023 4:03:31 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: PeterPrinciple

***According to rabbinic literature, the androgyne was a creature that existed at the beginning of Creation.***

20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Babblings is correct!


26 posted on 02/07/2023 4:08:54 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: 21twelve

Jesus said very clearly in the Bible that angels have no gender. They have no need of gender because they are created by God, not born among themselves through sexual procreation. But this leads to the next point of reason: does God need a gender? I don’t think so. So we refer to Him as “Him” because it’s a general term for a person. To call Him a “Her” is just incorrect and probably blasphemous.


27 posted on 02/07/2023 4:12:09 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: 21twelve

Jesus called God his “Father” so you’re right...it is good enough for me! God Bless.


28 posted on 02/07/2023 4:13:14 PM PST by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: Olog-hai
"God clearly refers to Himself as male"

Perhaps that is only for our benefit. Women do not have authority over men in a proper society (ladies, spare me your protests), so it's only right that God would resemble more closely the male counterpart of human. But does God have a physical body, like us? Is God a human male? So I don't think referring to Himself as a He is wholly literal.
29 posted on 02/07/2023 4:20:31 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

God’s body is clearly spirit. He does not make mistakes about what He is; there is no ambiguity there.


30 posted on 02/07/2023 4:23:37 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, it’s a silly argument anyway and matters nothing in the long run. God’s “pronouns” (how I hate wokism) are He/Him, so for all intents and purposes, God is male.


31 posted on 02/07/2023 4:27:25 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: 21twelve

God is clearly not verbally “gender-neutral”, referring to Himself as male all throughout the Bible.


32 posted on 02/07/2023 4:34:21 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: BenLurkin

Mission accomplished in ruining the church. Then they can sell off the buildings.


33 posted on 02/07/2023 4:36:25 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Olog-hai

LOL!!! like it’s up to them...


34 posted on 02/07/2023 4:44:58 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Olog-hai

Insanity.


35 posted on 02/07/2023 4:49:52 PM PST by I want the USA back (News media are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho, hoo hoo. )
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To: Olog-hai

The Church of England has been conforming to the world for a long time. Most of the members probably see social values as more godly than Biblical principles.


36 posted on 02/07/2023 4:53:10 PM PST by robel
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To: Olog-hai

God calls Himself a Him and Father. Jesus is male in His human flesh. Does the COE really want to tell God He is wrong about His gender? Not a very smart decision


37 posted on 02/07/2023 5:00:10 PM PST by Mom MD ( )
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To: Olog-hai

Satan (He) approves this.


38 posted on 02/07/2023 5:27:30 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Olog-hai

Aging Church of England ‘will be dead in 10 years’ (2032)

The Church of England will cease to exist in 10 years as the current generation of elderly worshippers dies, Anglican leaders warned yesterday.

By Tim Ross
12 July 2011 • 9:02pm

https://www.google.com/search?q=Ageing+Church+of+England+%27will+be+dead+in+20+years%27(2032)+The+Church+of+England+will+cease+to+exist+in+20+years+as+the+current+generation+of+elderly+worshippers+dies%2C+Anglican+leaders+warned+yesterday.&rlz=1CAMWDF_enUS930&oq=Ageing+Church+of+England+%27will+be+dead+in+20+years%27(2032)+The+Church+of+England+will+cease+to+exist+in+20+years+as+the+current+generation+of+elderly+worshippers+dies%2C+Anglican+leaders+warned+yesterday.&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAMWDF_enUS930&sxsrf=ALiCzsbHvPvBbMO2lMUP-6oebk1JWUjS9g:1668393975924&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=Ageing+Church+of+England+%27will+be+dead+in+20+years%27(2032)+The+Church+of+England+will+cease+to+exist+in+20+years+as+the+current+generation+of+elderly+worshippers+dies,+Anglican+leaders+warned+yesterday.&fir=bAwkG0Wnz6fDFM%252Cmu6RLEQqL-lhAM%252C_%253BxHsDFwcBSEuJJM%252CJnIykRb2Pik9PM%252C_%253BGTQgEbqLHTefmM%252CmJ1zd1zG7a5bgM%252C_%253BmzSVsXhZ-QeO2M%252C0Mnz595o__sDvM%252C_%253B0UYA5s579nXorM%252CZbozg68aN2nPSM%252C_%253BRPXuIaj34N_j_M%252Cj692DKTO7PewmM%252C_%253BWen8peUilvfXmM%252Ciq2cVDLgL0cKXM%252C_%253B7O3B2A2L2R34oM%252CiCNiffkLsgWgUM%252C_%253BjGDWEiOcl0DvrM%252CLi-klKnYvMGeoM%252C_%253B_WCo-v7Vc5zZ0M%252Cb_xc5L8DICatPM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQRjrnA7Gndp227YiZIy7e9Vd25AQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiF2J7y06z7AhWELUQIHRzMCk4QjJkEegQIJxAC&biw=1248&bih=651&dpr=1.5

Growth, Decline and Extinction of UK Churches:

https://anglican.ink/2022/05/21/growth-decline-and-extinction-of-uk-churches/


39 posted on 02/07/2023 5:33:07 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("What is your 'fair share' of what someone else has worked for?" - Thomas Sowell !!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

A father generally has different personality traits from a mother.


40 posted on 02/07/2023 5:38:25 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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