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Family synod: Mid-Term Report is Hailed as a ‘Pastoral Earthquake’
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 10/13/14 | Mark Greaves

Posted on 10/13/2014 6:21:40 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Petrosius
And here you are wrong. Even without Communion you are participating in the one sacrifice of the Cross made present. Neither Mary nor John received Communion at the foot of the Cross yet their love for Jesus united them with him. Many of the saints throughout the ages have valued the Mass without having received Communion each time they went. As for divorced and homosexuals, their placing their own self-love over the the love of God separates them from Him despite the reception of Communion.

Please, ANYone can walk into a Mass, sit and "be there." The doors are ALWAYS open to ALL. The priest CAN'T refuse someone because he THINKS that a person may be in the state of sin. What those sinners do is between them and God and not your business to judge.

You know that and are just lecturing me for your own benefit.

21 posted on 10/13/2014 7:21:26 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ADSUM
Yes. The Catholic church is very clear on sins. The Catholic Catechism provides the teachings of the Church.
Why are you so concerned to judge the sins of others or the actions of others in the Catholic Church? Are your sins public and subject to scrutiny? Should we not follow Jesus teachings of Loving God and our neighbor as our self?

Well put. He does sound judgmental, doesn't he? Sounds like anti-Catholicism to me. Not a new thing.

22 posted on 10/13/2014 7:23:52 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL

So your sins are more acceptable?

The Church accepts sinners, not sin.

How would you help change sinners into saints?

Would you do through God’s love or through hate?


23 posted on 10/13/2014 7:26:41 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: usconservative
You might want to check your understanding of God's word next time before posting. At least cite the entire scripture rather than just the parts you agree with.

And YOU might not want to read "negative" into a comment because the poster didn't quote the ENTIRE Scripture. Who are YOU to judge?

24 posted on 10/13/2014 7:29:26 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
Who are YOU to judge?

Who are YOU to question what I wrote and the intent in which I wrote it?

Might want to check your premise before responding.

25 posted on 10/13/2014 7:31:13 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: cloudmountain
because the poster didn't quote the ENTIRE Scripture

So you're also one of "those" who leaves out the parts of the scripture they don't like because it doesn't suit your argument then?

No need to engage you further. I've made my point.

26 posted on 10/13/2014 7:32:36 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I am so sorry if I offended you. WHAT was I thinking?


27 posted on 10/13/2014 7:32:58 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ADSUM

humans are sinners

anything besides “go and sin no more” is bad policy

humans are not saints


28 posted on 10/13/2014 7:35:00 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cloudmountain

They can go if they are divorced, it’s only if they remarried. Homosexuals can go if they do not fornicate. Those are the rules. They have always been the rules. Not everyone can be a victim.


29 posted on 10/13/2014 7:41:46 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: cloudmountain
>>But to shun the sinners isn't Christian.<<

Oh really?

Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

30 posted on 10/13/2014 7:43:27 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: marshmallow

31 posted on 10/13/2014 7:43:30 AM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: defconw
They can go if they are divorced, it’s only if they remarried. Homosexuals can go if they do not fornicate. Those are the rules. They have always been the rules. Not everyone can be a victim.

Ah, NOW you add the caveats. I KNEW those things too, as a matter of fact. I also know the rules but you DIDN'T assume that.

No, everyone can't be a victim. Did I say anything to the contrary? Or are you reading more to what I write than what I write? I hope not. PLEASE try NOT to assume that I'm an idiot. I know it might be very, very, very difficult for you but ... hey, give it a whirl. :o)

32 posted on 10/13/2014 7:46:05 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ADSUM

> Are your sins public and subject to scrutiny?

I have confessed my sins AS sins and have begged the forgiveness of God, and my fellow man.

Homosexuals are blatantly unrepentant and want their sin to be accepted as normal behavior regardless of the Biblical proscriptions against same.

> Should we not follow Jesus teachings of Loving God and
> our neighbor as our self?

Is it truly loving your neighbor if you don’t tell him he’s about to back his car off a cliff, metaphorically speaking?

It’s one thing to welcome sinners into the church to hear the good news. Of course, the good news does not make sense unless contrasted against the bad news that you are a sinner and must repent or burn forever in a devil’s hell. That includes repenting from homosexuality, serial polygamy, and abortion, as well as blasphemy, idolatry, lying, stealing, adultery, and murder.

If you’re not sorry for your sins, then what need have you of a Savior? May as well go to a UU church or a country club.


33 posted on 10/13/2014 7:46:14 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: usconservative

Not condoning their sin, also implies go and sin nor more.
Sorry that I did not state that part.

All of our sins are an affront to God, whether public or not.

There is evil in the world, including the homosexual agenda.

How do we deal with it? Through god’s love and graces or by hate?

Jesus did by example and on some they changed and others did not.

Jesus gave us two commandments:
1. Love the Lord your God with your whole heart, and with your whole soul, and with your whole mind,
and with your whole strength;

2. you shall love your neighbor as yourself.


34 posted on 10/13/2014 7:49:30 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: CynicalBear
You've had too much coffee. Go DETOX and try to remember whose side you're on.

Scolding me isn't Christian either, no matter what Scriptures you care to cite, especially if you took ONE tiny moment of your life to figure out that I am as conservative as anyone here.
Or, are you just being anti-Catholic?

Either way: God bless you and yours.

35 posted on 10/13/2014 7:49:39 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain; ADSUM
>>Well put. He does sound judgmental, doesn't he?<<

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

36 posted on 10/13/2014 7:51:05 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: cloudmountain

Hey I know you know. But I am tired of all the “victims” that cry about the rules. If you are Catholic you know the rules. Everyone wants an exception. So many in fact they have to have a synod over it. So don’t get mad at me for stating the obvious.


37 posted on 10/13/2014 7:53:01 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: CynicalBear
STOP casting your stones at me...YOU go SIN NO MORE.
SHAME ON YOU.
38 posted on 10/13/2014 7:53:37 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow

If I read correctly, all this claptrap would make one dream of ye old Catholicism, “a harsh religion that demanded things of you” as one FReeper recently said.


39 posted on 10/13/2014 7:54:31 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: defconw
Hey I know you know. But I am tired of all the “victims” that cry about the rules. If you are Catholic you know the rules. Everyone wants an exception. So many in fact they have to have a synod over it. So don’t get mad at me for stating the obvious.

I haven't been "mad" since I was 13 years old. I only get irritated. You didn't even irritate me. I won't bother you again.

40 posted on 10/13/2014 7:58:46 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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