Posted on 11/10/2012 2:57:52 PM PST by NYer
The Catholic Church is insane if they think Obama cares about unity. He was running around talking about revenge with a pastor who says all whites are going to hell.
Why would the Vatican endorse that?
Speaking to reporters the same day, the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, voiced hope that Obama would use his second term for the "promotion of the culture of life and of religious liberty."
From the Mirror of Justice web site: Jesuit 'Theologian' praises same-sex marriage victories - Withering on the vine…
Two days before Americans went to the polls, the papal nuncio to the U.S. made it clear how urgent a priority the nation's religious liberty had become at the highest levels of the universal church.
Speaking at the University of Notre Dame Nov. 4, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano devoted most of a speech about "religious freedom, persecution of the church and martyrdom" to the situation of the United States today.
I have googled the papal nuncio and there is NO media coverage of this speech. Was anything from that speech communicated to practicing catholics?
IMHO, there is no cohesion in the US Catholic Church. Mixed messages, winks & nods on moral issues, generate confusion in the electorate. Either they all speak with one voice or remain silent.
It didn’t. The problem is the Vatican tries way too hard to find something positive to say - even when there is NOTHING positive to say.
Because they don’t pay attention. They don’t read the conservative media, like FR!
I might add that although the Church’s point is a grave and important concern, they didn’t wake up on all the other abridgments of freedom until their own ox was gored.
This year, not a bit of support for Obama. Wonder why.
The Vatican is facing the age-old problem, Caesar trying to take over God.
BXVI knows what’s going on, and so do a lot of bishops, even in the US. But others would be perfectly happy with the New Improved American Patriotic Catholic Church, where Obama is a Henry VIII figure and the US president is forever after the head of the American Catholic Church. Along,of course, with being the caliph of the new caliphate...
There will be many treasonous bishops here, and they may not all be the ones you would expect. I read somewhere that the people being led out to martyrdom in Spain under the communists were not necessarily the people anybody would have dreamed of, while some of the more aggressive people had recanted and were worshipping at the feet of the left, and that this is common in periods of active martyrdom. It’s not always the people you’d think.
The faithful bishops just have to keep on preaching and the faithful laypeople and priests just have to keep on doing what they do.
Mercifully, I was spared from that in our parish. Just curious, how did they broach the elections: spoken message or literature or both?
So, Obama is the anti-Christ then.
That's not "hope," that's hawg-stupid delusional wishful thinking.
Hmmm, the Church and Ronaldus Magnus took down the Polish commies. I wonder if our regime and society are corrupt enough for a similar push.
Obamacare really tore it. The Church found out it would be forced to provide and pay for birth control and abortion. Something most of the rest of us knew would happen.
The Church foolishly put its hope and trust in a false idol. Now it and its congregants are finding out how costly their folly was.
The Vatican has been infiltrated to a degree most cannot fathom. The Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ) was the natural enemy of the satanic communists, and thus it was their first and foremost target.
This is an opportunity for restoration!
A crisis is good for soul searching, which can lead to a restoration of faith, which could lead to a restoration of worthy Scriptural leadership by example and experience.
Or not, and instead a continuation of the societal slide and fall from grace the Church is a major contributor to thanks to its abdication from said leadership as it watered down its obedience and dedication to the truths it once stood for, or so I once believed it stood for.
We are confused. The messages are mixed as we now embrace the sin as passionately as we are instead to forgive the sinner.
The best approach to 0bama is to turn around and run as fast as you can.
And when I wrote a letter to the editor of the Virginian Catholic wondering if the Bishop was going to take a firm stand on these issues the letter never managed to get published. BXVI has to take a firm stand with CINO bishops and tell them to tow the line or get out. We do not need tepid Catholics or Bishops.
Not in mine.
Though at that time, they were not forcefully against him either, as they were this year.
The American bishops by and large hungered for the victory of the anti-Christ in 2008, despite the anti-Christ’s total embrace of the holocaust of unborn children to his god, Moloch.
Now, they are less sure of him because he will make them pay for contraceptives.
Camel... gnat.
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