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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Look at the contrast in this report:

Speaking to reporters the same day, the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, voiced hope that Obama would use his second term for the "promotion of the culture of life and of religious liberty."

From the Mirror of Justice web site: Jesuit 'Theologian' praises same-sex marriage victories - Withering on the vine…

Two days before Americans went to the polls, the papal nuncio to the U.S. made it clear how urgent a priority the nation's religious liberty had become at the highest levels of the universal church.

Speaking at the University of Notre Dame Nov. 4, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano devoted most of a speech about "religious freedom, persecution of the church and martyrdom" to the situation of the United States today.

I have googled the papal nuncio and there is NO media coverage of this speech. Was anything from that speech communicated to practicing catholics?

IMHO, there is no cohesion in the US Catholic Church. Mixed messages, winks & nods on moral issues, generate confusion in the electorate. Either they all speak with one voice or remain silent.

3 posted on 11/10/2012 3:06:05 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer
... voiced hope that Obama would use his second term for the "promotion of the culture of life and of religious liberty."

That's not "hope," that's hawg-stupid delusional wishful thinking.

11 posted on 11/10/2012 3:29:41 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up." ~marron)
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IMHO, there is no cohesion in the US Catholic Church. Mixed messages, winks & nods on moral issues, generate confusion in the electorate. Either they all speak with one voice or remain silent.

And when I wrote a letter to the editor of the Virginian Catholic wondering if the Bishop was going to take a firm stand on these issues the letter never managed to get published. BXVI has to take a firm stand with CINO bishops and tell them to tow the line or get out. We do not need tepid Catholics or Bishops.

18 posted on 11/10/2012 4:15:57 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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Yes. The only thing that would catch public attention would be a dramatic act such as the excommunication of someone like Biden. But the time for that may have passed.


32 posted on 11/10/2012 8:49:17 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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"The insurance mandate in particular, which U.S. bishops have strenuously protested for the past year..."

They certainly did not. "Strenuously" indicates something like shaking themselves awake and getting up off their big episcopal .... seats, for somethng other than a photo op.

Yes, yes, a few of them spoke short sentences where you could find the subject and the verb. +Jenky in Peoria was heated, strong -- and like a man standing alone.

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And the rest, those who apparently still want some lovin' from Obama: Obama will certainly give it to them, good and hard.

37 posted on 11/11/2012 1:47:00 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("So God gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices." Psalm 81:12)
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