[GeronL]

The Catholic Church is insane if they think Obama cares about unity. He was running around talking about revenge with a pastor who says all whites are going to hell.

Why would the Vatican endorse that?

[NYer]

Look at the contrast in this report:

Speaking to reporters the same day, the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, voiced hope that Obama would use his second term for the "promotion of the culture of life and of religious liberty."

From the Mirror of Justice web site: Jesuit 'Theologian' praises same-sex marriage victories - Withering on the vine…

Two days before Americans went to the polls, the papal nuncio to the U.S. made it clear how urgent a priority the nation's religious liberty had become at the highest levels of the universal church.

Speaking at the University of Notre Dame Nov. 4, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano devoted most of a speech about "religious freedom, persecution of the church and martyrdom" to the situation of the United States today.

I have googled the papal nuncio and there is NO media coverage of this speech. Was anything from that speech communicated to practicing catholics?

IMHO, there is no cohesion in the US Catholic Church. Mixed messages, winks & nods on moral issues, generate confusion in the electorate. Either they all speak with one voice or remain silent.

[fatnotlazy]

Technically, the Catholic Church does not endorse candidates, but I'm 2008, our local clergy pushed their congregations to vote for Obama. He was all but hailed as the Second Coming of the Messiah. I remember thinking these clergymen were going to one day regret their blind support for this monster.

This year, not a bit of support for Obama. Wonder why.

[Gay State Conservative]

If the Vatican thinks that Osama Obama has even the slightest trace of a conscience or has anything but contempt for those who do they are *very* sadly mistaken.

[Jacquerie]

Hmmm, the Church and Ronaldus Magnus took down the Polish commies. I wonder if our regime and society are corrupt enough for a similar push.

[GBA]

The Church appears to have a crisis of faith, followed by a crisis of leadership.

This is an opportunity for restoration!

A crisis is good for soul searching, which can lead to a restoration of faith, which could lead to a restoration of worthy Scriptural leadership by example and experience.

Or not, and instead a continuation of the societal slide and fall from grace the Church is a major contributor to thanks to its abdication from said leadership as it watered down its obedience and dedication to the truths it once stood for, or so I once believed it stood for.

We are confused. The messages are mixed as we now embrace the sin as passionately as we are instead to forgive the sinner.

[windsorknot]

The best approach to 0bama is to turn around and run as fast as you can.

[sitetest]

The American bishops by and large hungered for the victory of the anti-Christ in 2008, despite the anti-Christ’s total embrace of the holocaust of unborn children to his god, Moloch.

Now, they are less sure of him because he will make them pay for contraceptives.

Camel... gnat.

[Alex Murphy]

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The day after Barack Obama won the presidency in 2008, the Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, hailed his election as a "choice that unites," exemplifying America's ability to "overcome fractures and divisions that until only recently could seem incurable." Pope Benedict XVI sent the president-elect a congratulatory telegram the same day, noting the "historic occasion" of his election.

Four years later, the Vatican's reaction to Obama's re-election had a markedly different tone.

I don't think so. As posted on EWTN:

7-November-2012 -- ZENIT.org News Agency

Holy Father Sends Message to President Obama
Assures Reelected Leader of His Prayers to Carry Out Duties to the Nation

By Junno Arocho

VATICAN CITY, Nov. 7, 2012 (Zenit.org).- Fr. Federico Lombardi, director of the Holy See Press Office, told journalists today that Pope Benedict XVI has sent a message to US President Barack Obama, congratulating him on his reelection. The telegram was sent through the Apostolic Nunciature in Washington, DC.

The Holy Father expressed his best wishes to President Obama and assured him of his prayers to carry out his duties to the country and the international community.

The Pope also conveyed his hope that "the ideals of freedom and justice that has guided the founding fathers of the United States of America continue to shine forth as the nation progresses."

Commenting on President Obama's reelection, Fr. Lombardi stressed the immense responsibility that the US President has not only for his country, but as well to the rest of the world, "given the role of the United States in the international [community]."

Fr. Lombardi concluded his statement expressing his hope that President Obama will respond to the expectations of his fellow citizens "for the good and development" while promoting a culture of life and religious freedom.

The director of the Holy See Press Office also stated his desire that the reelected President "may find the best ways to promote the material and spiritual welfare of all, as well as effectively promote the integral human development, justice and peace effectively in the world."

[Salvation]

**”If Obama truly wants to be the president of all Americans,” said L’Osservatore Nov. 7, “he should finally acknowledge the demands forcefully arising from religious communities — above all the Catholic Church — in favor of the natural family, life and finally religious liberty itself.”**

Amen!!!