"...and then there's that whole 'putting on a shirt' thing.'"
Posted on 02/19/2010 7:13:39 PM PST by hiho hiho
Real men don't like going to church because they don't want to "sing love songs to a man", because the "vicar wears a dress", because they feel like "mongrels on parade at Crufts" and because they want to be waited on by women rather than queue for coffee after the service.
Instead of the usual flowers and statues of the Virgin Mary, they suggest, "How would it go down to decorate with swords, or pictures of knights, or flaming torches?"
"Maybe it's not 'politically correct', but men quite like the attention of women! They also like to be waited on - so long as they are not made to feel guilty. Instead of having to queue for coffee, why not ask some of the women to go round with trays of coffee and biscuits or chocky bars? Coupled with a charming smile, many men would find that very attractive!"
Then there are the hymns, or modern worship songs, themselves.
Quite apart from the sheer embarrassment of having to sing out loud when the tune might go too high or be in an unfamiliar key,
"Jesus, I am so in love with you," or "Beautiful one I love, beautiful one I adore," - many men wouldn't sing that to their wives, let alone another man, the charity advises.
Among the changes recommended by Christian Vision for Men, a member of the Evangelical Alliance, is to use the World Cup to boost falling congregations. The charity wants vicars to erect big screens above the pulpit during this summer’s World Cup in South Africa and even serve beer during games.
The charity, which also recommends subjects as "pornography" are discussed in church men's groups, has also launched two Christian-themed men’s magazines in a further bid to lock into male culture.
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
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Maybe todays sissified men - those of us who have been emasculated - are just more self conscious about what they know they lack.
I’d like church more if the priests didn’t talk like nursery school psychologists.
The church where I am a member incorporates some of the principles in the book, and we don't have a gender gap.
As a matter of fact, we have a men's meeting tomorrow morning at 730am. About 200 guys show up.
Maybe Hooters would work better.
Perhaps there is not enough reading/understanding of James.
James is very much an [exhortation to] action book.
I’d like Church more if the pews weren’t filled with self righteous do-gooders who are always looking down their hypocritical noses at everybody else.
That's what you yourself are doing in this very post.
I call BS!
(Bible Study)
The realest men I know , Love Jesus.
I am not doing it in Church.
There’s always room for one more.
True committed Christan men who love the Lord are not described here...
I agree, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Our church is full of men. Wonderful Godly men.
Yes Ma’am, churches don’t need “gimmicks.”
Preaching from the bible without putting the Spin Of The Day on it is quite sufficient.
Really, you should go, one more hypocrite isn't going to matter.
Ooh right, that makes it so much less holier than thou hypocritical. Carry on then!
It depends.
This is true about the soft, feminised evangelical churches where all they do it sway to the beat of the drum set while singing love songs to their boyfriend named Jesus.
However, fundamental churches, which eschew that sort of nonsense, don’t seem to have trouble finding real men to fill the pews.
So self-confessed murderers, cheats, perverts and drunks would be the preferred occupants of those seats? Would you like that better. Or does everybody have to be perfect like you?
No offense...I just get tired of the typical stereotyping of Christians. I guess you are just a typical liberal. Your comment is right out of their book.
Good grief. Have any of these people listened to contemporary Christian music, most of which is written and sung by fathers? Fatherhood is the most heroic and brave thing a man can ever do. As for athletics and masculinity, at least 3 of the top pro football QB prospects are Christians: Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, and Tim Tebow, as is future Hall of Famer QB Kurt Warner. Read about what Paul went through. Christians are macho. They are courageous. They are “more than conquerors.”
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