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America's debt to John Calvin
WORLD Magazine ^ | July 04, 2009 | John Piper

Posted on 06/21/2009 6:34:36 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

In this year of John Calvin's 500th birthday, I don't know of a better place to read about his impact on America than Abraham Kuyper's Lectures on Calvinism given at Princeton Seminary in October 1898. Kuyper was a pastor, a journalist, the founder of the Free University of Amsterdam, and prime minister of the Netherlands.

John Calvin and Martin Luther were the twin pillars of the Protestant Reformation. Why do fewer people speak of Luther's culture-shaping impact on America, but for centuries Calvin has been seen in this light? Kuyper argues,

Luther's starting-point was the . . . principle of justifying faith; while Calvin's . . . lay in the general cosmological principle of the sovereignty of God. . . . [Hence] Lutheranism restricted itself to an exclusively ecclesiastical and theological character, while Calvinism put its impress in and outside the Church upon every department of human life.

It is the personal pervasiveness of God's sovereignty that makes all the difference. This means that "the whole of a man's life is to be lived as in the Divine Presence." This "fundamental thought of Calvinism" shaped all of life. "It is from this mother-thought that the all-embracing life system of Calvinism sprang."

For example, Calvin's doctrine of "vocation" follows from the fact that every person, great and small, lives "in the Divine Presence." God's sovereign purposes govern the simplest occupation. He attends to everyone's work. This yielded the Protestant work ethic. Huge benefits flow from a cultural shift in which all work is done earnestly and honestly with an eye to God.

Or consider how Calvinism breathed an impulse of freedom into modern history. The decisive principle was

the sovereignty of the Triune God over the whole Cosmos, in all its spheres and kingdoms, visible and invisible. A primordial Sovereignty which eradicates in mankind . . . a threefold . . . supremacy, viz., (1) the sovereignty of the State; (2) the sovereignty in Society; and (3) the sovereignty in the Church.

God's sovereign claim on every person and every sphere of society relativized all other claims. It began with the churches.

The sovereignty of Christ remains absolutely monarchical, but the government of the Church on earth becomes democratic to its bones and marrow. . . . No church may exercise any dominion over another, but . . . all local churches are of equal rank.

This impulse of freedom spread to the political sphere. Calvin and his heirs had a strong predilection for republican government—and an aversion to monarchy. A benevolent dictatorship would be ideal in a sinless world. But in a sinful world, it brings the horrors of tyranny. "Call to mind . . . that Calvinism has captured and guaranteed to us our constitutional civil rights."

We ask: Why then did Calvin endorse the death of Servetus for heresy? How was this part of his liberating impulse? Kuyper's answer is helpful.

I not only deplore that . . . I unconditionally disapprove of it; yet not as if it were the expression of a special characteristic of Calvinism, but on the contrary as the fatal after-effect of a system, grey with age, which Calvinism found in existence, under which it had grown up, and from which it had not yet been able entirely to liberate itself.
A thousand years of abuses are not thrown off overnight. But the impulses of liberty, flowing from the decisive principle of the all-embracing sovereignty of God, proved to be unstoppable. "Calvinism has liberated Switzerland, the Netherlands, and England, and in the Pilgrim Fathers has provided the impulse to the prosperity of the United States."

Kuyper closed his lectures with a claim that for many today sounds preposterous. Do not write him off. Get the book Lectures on Calvinism, and test these words, spoken to Americans in 1898:

In the rise of your university education . . . in the decentralized . . . character of your local governments . . . in your championship of free speech, and in your unlimited regard for freedom of conscience; in all this . . . it is demonstrable that you owe this to Calvinism and to Calvinism alone.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Mainline Protestant; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; calvin; christianheritage; christiannation
"Calvinism has liberated Switzerland, the Netherlands, and England, and in the Pilgrim Fathers has provided the impulse to the prosperity of the United States."
1 posted on 06/21/2009 6:34:36 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

As George III called the American Revolution, “That Presbyterian rebellion.”


2 posted on 06/21/2009 6:40:17 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Alex Murphy

We were always destined to honor John Calvin’s 500th birthday.


3 posted on 06/21/2009 6:51:57 PM PDT by discomatic
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To: Alex Murphy

Plus the Walloons and the Huguenots who had a great impact on the beginnings of America...


4 posted on 06/21/2009 6:57:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Alex Murphy
As a Lutheran, I would take exception that Calvin is more important than Luther. It was Martin Luther, long before John Calvin, that had established the Protestant work ethic and the teaching on vocation. I would agree with his views on the difference between Calvin and Luther when it comes to the distinction between the two kingdoms. As the saying goes, Calvin loved the glory of God, while Luther gloried in the love of God.
5 posted on 06/21/2009 6:58:35 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: discomatic

I have treasured my studies in Calvimism in seminary. The man was an absolute genius.


6 posted on 06/21/2009 7:00:10 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Nosterrex

Luther and Calvin served their purpose.


7 posted on 06/21/2009 7:01:30 PM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thank you for posting this. It has admittedly sparked an interest in me to study Calvin a bit more deeply.


8 posted on 06/21/2009 7:10:25 PM PDT by MWS
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To: WVNan

Calvinism. Sorry about the typo. Letters are worn off.


9 posted on 06/21/2009 7:18:26 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Alex Murphy

America owes a huge debt to Calvin. Most of the Founders were out of some reformed religious background.

The huge majority were Christian reformers, and even the very few who were “deists” were “Christian deists.”

It’s a verifiable fact of history.


10 posted on 06/21/2009 7:57:39 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: Tolkien
My aim is not to disparage the contributions of the Frenchman, Calvin. The French have their purposes, too. I would say that in America, Calvin has had a much greater impact than Luther although I doubt that Calvin would want anything to do with the Reformed denominations in Holland or America. Calvinism is dead except in a few small pockets of America and England. Certainly the political activism we see within much of American Christianity or Evangelicalism is a manifestation of Calvin's failure to distinguish between the two kingdoms in which the state becomes an instrument of the church. Luther's statement that he would rather have a wise Turk for a prince than a stupid Christian would hardly be acceptable to a Calvinist.
Calvinism does not need to make extravagant claims about its history and impact on society.
11 posted on 06/21/2009 8:01:11 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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13 posted on 06/21/2009 8:03:59 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: stfassisi

Thanks, I’ll be sure to check that out.


14 posted on 06/21/2009 8:06:34 PM PDT by MWS
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To: Alex Murphy

I have no problem with honoring Calvin on his 500th anniversary. But I do have some problems with the historicity of the “Protestant work ethic.”

I have done quite a lot of research and writing in that area, and I would say that it is, rather, a “Christian work ethic” that developed in Europe and the West, not a specificially Protestant movement.

Yes, it’s true that for whatever reason, England was central to the development of science, technology, and the agricultural and industrial revolutions. But you can find a work ethic in the Middle Ages as well as after the Reformation. And you can also trace it back to a very clear expression in Virgil’s “Georgics.” The Virgilian triad, also well known in the middle ages, involved three styles of life: pastoral leisure, georgic labor, and epic warfare.

Also, FWIW, “vocation” is not solely a Calvinist or a Protestant phenomenon. It was well established earlier in the Catholic Church that everyone has a calling. The Parable of the Talents would suffice to develop that idea.


15 posted on 06/21/2009 8:13:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MWS
LIBERTAS

This is what is truth in how society should operate

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_20061888_libertas_en.html

16 posted on 06/21/2009 8:16:04 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Alex Murphy
The "university education" is owing to Calvin alone?

Oh good grief.

17 posted on 06/21/2009 8:16:40 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: stfassisi

Anton La Vey used psychology to formulate his ideas. Your intolerance for views that differ from your own is like to that of Ahmadinejad.


18 posted on 06/21/2009 8:36:45 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: Judges Gone Wild
Anton La Vey used psychology to formulate his ideas

Calvin did the same because his pride psychologically convinced himself that he was doing the work of God just like Ahmadinejad.

Calvin denies free will thus making God the creator of evil

19 posted on 06/21/2009 8:41:56 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

Pope Leo XIII’s Encyclical “Libertas” may or may not be how a society should operate, but that hardly makes Calvin’s writings, which focus on the all-encompassing sovereignty and power of God, equivalent to the Satanic Bible.

Coming from a Catholic backgroud, I admittedly have never been particularly fond of Calvin, with his doctrines of double predestination and whatnot. I will say that I have not given him a fair hearing, however, and that this article has inspired me to at least learn a bit more about his side of things.


20 posted on 06/21/2009 8:43:44 PM PDT by MWS
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To: narses

Why ping me to this dreck? Did I do something wrong?


21 posted on 06/21/2009 8:45:16 PM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: MWS
Coming from a Catholic backgroud,

Calvin denied the true presence in the Eucharist,therefore if you're Catholic you will realize Calvin is an extreme heretic

22 posted on 06/21/2009 8:46:44 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

I said I came from a Catholic background... I lean Protestant these days. I am admittedly trying to decide which way to go.

Calvin denied the true presence in the Eucharist. He also taught the overriding importance of the Gospel message and the importance of having Christ in one’s life for one’s salvation, as well as the existence of a sovereign Triune God and the overall importance of the inspiration of Holy Scripture. There have been far worse heresies before and after Calvin than what Calvin himself taught. At least Calvin can be said to have adhered to the Nicene Creed.


23 posted on 06/21/2009 8:59:33 PM PDT by MWS
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To: MWS
“”I said I came from a Catholic background... I lean Protestant these days. I am admittedly trying to decide which way to go.””

I suggest you read the following

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Eucharist/Eucharist_016.htm

This coupled with EVERY SINGLE early church father WITHOUT even one single exception believed the True Presence of Eucharist.

Without these Church father's like Athanasius and others you would not even have a canonized Bible to read.

You need to ask yourself why God would use the reformers who had nothing to do with Bible canon to have authority to interpret scripture above those He entrusted to give you inspired scripture in the first place?

God is truth,Not confusion ,like John Calvin

24 posted on 06/21/2009 9:12:55 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: MWS
The Early Christians Believed in the Real Presence
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html

The Eucharistic Miracles of the World
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/engl_mir.htm

Miracle Eucharist Video
http://dsanford.com/miraclehost.html

25 posted on 06/21/2009 9:22:19 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Judges Gone Wild
Your intolerance for views that differ from your own is like to that of Ahmadinejad.

Tolerance of evil approves of evil by not standing up against it.

You're not living in reality if you think tolerance of evil will bring peace.

This is what lazy blinded pluralists believes

26 posted on 06/21/2009 9:49:35 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

First of all, I want to thank God that we, to this point, have the freedom to discuss man’s free will versus the sovereignty of God. Also, I’m pretty sure if you’re on FR, you don’t advocate the shooting of dissenters and the beheading of all ‘infidels’ as does Ahmadinejad. To your credit, you didn’t take the comparison personally. Not having read Institutes of the Christian Religion, I don’t know what Calvin wrote regarding the problem of evil. What I DO know is that “This is the work of God. That you believe in him who he has sent.” John 6:29


27 posted on 06/21/2009 11:29:46 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: Alex Murphy

http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/reformers.htm

http://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/martin-luther-and-the-jews

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Martin_Luther_and_the_Jews

http://zionism-now.blogspot.com/2007/10/luther-and-jews.html

http://www.chgs.umn.edu/webBib/links/m.html


28 posted on 06/22/2009 12:58:45 AM PDT by Force of Truth (Yes political conservatives are libertarians. They want to have their rights and eat them too.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Cicero

Happy Birthday Jean Cauvin...

“Calvin” like Machiavelli was a brilliant man who left us a mixed legacy.

Cicero (the FReeper, not the Roman Orator) makes some good points regarding the Christian work ethic, the establishment of Universities, etc., btw.


29 posted on 06/22/2009 5:02:47 AM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: stfassisi

On this we agree. Too bad you are intent on labelling those who oppose your viewpoint as “evil.”


30 posted on 06/22/2009 6:56:51 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Alex Murphy

>> In the rise of your university education . . . in the decentralized . . . character of your local governments . . . in your championship of free speech, and in your unlimited regard for freedom of conscience; in all this . . . it is demonstrable that you owe this to Calvinism and to Calvinism alone. <<

Wow. A perfect zero on historicity. The federated cantons pre-existed Calvin, whose own cantons went to war to dominate the others; Calvin didn’t recognize the freedom of conscience (Luther appealed to it at the Council of Worms, however); the university system was Catholic in origin, based on some Greek ideals; Calvin’s cantons abolished the Catholic mass.

Yet, such comments are so widely attributed to Calvin and not to other reformation leaders; can someone please explain why, instead of arguing as this post does from mere assertion?


31 posted on 06/22/2009 7:43:46 AM PDT by dangus
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To: gusopol3

>> As George III called the American Revolution, “That Presbyterian rebellion.” <<

Keep in mind that his intent was to slander it. ;^)

Doubtlessly, Presbyterianism (and congregationalism) did provide some of the impetus for the American Revolution. But so did Thomas Aquinas’ natural law, Augustine’s City of God, and the 30 years’ war resolution’s insistence on anti-sectarianism. And let’s not forget the French involvement. Everyone seems to be so keen to recall the Catholicism of the French in the 30 years’ war and the battles against the Huguenots, but conventiently forgets their Catholicism in the Revolutionary war. L’Enfant, De Toqueville, and many other French popularized the notion that the Revolution was consistent with Catholicism.

Doubtlessly, being a Catholic, I can find Catholic antecedents; I’m sure Anglicans and Lutherans can point to their own, as well.


32 posted on 06/22/2009 7:51:53 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Nosterrex
Calvinism is dead except in a few small pockets of America and England

Why do you say that?
33 posted on 06/22/2009 8:00:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: dangus; Alex Murphy

I should note that I am quite aware of Calvin’s endorsement of usury, which made Switzerland fantastically wealthy and a center of commerce. But given the biblical problems with the practice of usury, and the fact that Capitalism does not, in fact, depend on usury, I was wondering if there were any particular statements Calvin made in defense of the free market, beyond his rebuke of the communalism of many Anabaptists. If I would link free markets to Protestantism, my first linkage would be to the rise of the merchant classes of England and Germany, following the vast depopulation of the black death. This merchant class was escaped from indenture; had the money to pay for their own bibles apart from religious instruction; resented the underutilization of church property after the plagues depopulated the clerical class which had served previously to mitigate overpopulation; and saw the countless religious feast days not as a break from labor but as a pesky interference with their commerce.

What did Calvin personally add to this, beyond opposing usury and the more radical protestant movements’ communalism?


34 posted on 06/22/2009 8:02:10 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Huber

Thanks. I should have mentioned Hesiod, as well. His “Works and Days” isn’t as powerful on the importance of work as Virgil’s “Georgics,” but it does show that the idea of the value of hard work, agricultural labor in particular, goes back a long way.

And another significant work, demonstrating that Catholics understood the value of hard labor, would be the medieval “Piers the Plowman.” Also, the Rule of St. Benedict, even earlier.


35 posted on 06/22/2009 8:12:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cronos

Because it is. Would you call the Presbyterian Church, USA Calvinist? Would you call the RCA or CRC Calvinist? Other than a few denominations, such as the PCA, I would say that Calvinism is dead as a door nail.


36 posted on 06/22/2009 8:23:43 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex; Cronos
Because it is. Would you call the Presbyterian Church, USA Calvinist? Would you call the RCA or CRC Calvinist? Other than a few denominations, such as the PCA, I would say that Calvinism is dead as a door nail.

How about the Southern Baptists?

37 posted on 06/22/2009 8:38:34 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: Alex Murphy
Keep in mind that Catholics tend to view adherents to a particular theology strictly in terms of their membership in an institution which formally, confessionally subscribes to that theology. Thus we are repeatedly reminded that there are over a billion Catholics worldwide, while at the same time being given the "No True Catholic" rule when for instance any of them vote for a politician who supports abortion. At the same time, a person such as myself who is doctrinally Calvinist, but attends a church which is not formally Calvinist by confession, is not counted among that number.

Given the fact that it would be quite difficult to make such a count, the mere relative number of formally Calvinist congregations cannot truly be said to represent the relative number of Calvinist individuals without a reasonable demonstration that the two correlate.

38 posted on 06/22/2009 8:55:02 AM PDT by Frumanchu (God's justice does not demand second chances)
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To: Alex Murphy

Southern Baptists aren’t Calvinist. Never have been.


39 posted on 06/22/2009 9:26:16 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex; Alex Murphy

I don’t know — I’m not a Calvinist, I just wondered why you said that.


40 posted on 06/22/2009 9:41:30 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Cronos
Classical Calvinism is no longer practiced by the vast majority of Reformed churches. I can only think of a couple of small denominations in the United States that attempt to retain classical Calvinism. There are very few denominations that strictly adhere to the teachings of their founders. I doubt that Westley, Calvin, or Luther would want anything to do with any of the Christian denominations that exist today.
41 posted on 06/22/2009 10:19:50 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: stfassisi

very well said...

and you are correct...God is truth...not confusion


42 posted on 06/22/2009 10:56:46 AM PDT by aimee5291
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To: Alex Murphy
Michael Servetus
43 posted on 06/22/2009 2:08:35 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner
On The Errors of the Trinity, by Michael Servetus
44 posted on 06/22/2009 6:33:30 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: Alex Murphy

Review later


45 posted on 06/22/2009 8:12:25 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Alex Murphy
We might have had more writings from Servetus if only our humanitarian, America inspiring, good friend Calvin hadn't seen fit to burn him alive over religious disagreements.

Oh well, c'est la vie!

46 posted on 06/22/2009 10:05:49 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

Do not use potty language - or references to potty language - on the Religion Forum.


48 posted on 06/22/2009 10:24:35 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
Oh, but defending the murder of innocents in the name of "heresy" is not "potty language".

Whatever.

49 posted on 06/22/2009 10:28:15 PM PDT by GunRunner
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