Posted on 05/02/2009 2:35:35 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
If a man with summer tires gets caught in snow and ice, and becomes stuck, he will sometimes gun the engine, thinking that ever more of the same will get him free.
What he’s really doing is warming the ice enough to make it even more slippery, and his situation only gets worse. In other words, he is lying to himself and suffering the further pains of his own self-deception.
Only when he admits he is stuck and steps out of his own errors to seek help from the sure-footed (a 4x4 tow truck known as the Church founded by Christ) can he escape the consequences of his own misfortunate mistakes.
All Christians are Catholic or Protestant, though you can continue to pretend otherwise if you wish.
Assuming your right then I can assume that Christ rested on Friday (unless I'm missing something). And If I'm not missing something then accordingly from your theology shouldn't you be resting on worshipping on Friday instead of Saturday, and I don't mean starting on Friday evening.
The problem I have with arguing dates is that if God wanted us to know the physical exact dates he would of had the Apostles record the exact dates so that there would be no question in mind, that is a personal opinion though.
I've seen both sides of theological schools quote the Church fathers, for their side of their arguments. Some do better at quoting them then other, basically there is a lot of quoting taking out of context, just as many theological schools take the scriptures out of context. So basically I have a problem with certain Schools of theology trying to prove their cases with historical data when they can't even get their theology of scripture correct.
However, since sola Scriptura is a lie, there is no reason to rely on Scripture alone (let alone microscopic misinterpretation thereof). Indeed, Christ left us His Church--the Catholic Church--to guide us and protect us from those who would brazenly misapply His message for their own personal self-aggrandizement.
Oh....? I must have missed that. Could you enlighten me on the evidence for disproving? I will need scripture, of course....and not the insane rambling of confused clerics.
While you're at it....tell everyone why the Greek in [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Luke 24:1][and John 20:1] does not say "PROTOS TES HEMERA HEBDOMADOS". That, of course is the Greek for "first day of the week" and appears no where in scripture! Not even anything similar!
You're silly little doctrine is an invention of foolish little men claiming to be infallible.... and their theology is a fraud!
And indeed one only need look upon the chaos called protestantism to see what happens when one separates oneself from that protection. Sola becomes so-lost.
ANY one of the previous threads on the topic.
I will need scripture, of course....
Sola Scriptura is a lie.
...and not the insane rambling of confused clerics.
Don't worry, I won't quote your sources.
Same here.
Wow. Long time since I heard that much disdain for the Apostles...or heck, even Jesus Christ himself, who gave them the power to loose and bind.
Oh but they did! "MIA TWN SABBATWN" is the Greek that is used to identify the first special Sabbath between Passover and Pentecost. All the resurrection verses use these Greek words to identify the day of resurrection. It was not the first day of the week. It is silly to argue that point as the Greek says very plainly "On one of the Sabbaths".
Fraudulent theology has purposely mistranslated these Greek words, attempting to place their own bias for a Sunday morning resurrection in the face of unsuspecting mankind. Most folks are taught from early childhood about a sunrise Sunday morning resurrection. They have been deceived and it is very simple to find the truth.
I would recommend reading the Greek.....instead of some ones biased translation.
Your innuendo is misplaced because everyone here knows who the "silly little men were....and are"!
YHvH's blessings on you and your house !shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
You may have had someone else in mind but since there is abundant evidence that the first Christians worshiped on Sunday your reference to “silly little men” can only mean the Apostles.
Well.....we agree for a change!
This is your assignment. Please provide proof of your statements of early Sunday worship in the First century Church.
Heck that is easy teach. Already been covered on numerous threads such as: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1806220/posts
You're right though, we should expect that from anti-Church iconoclasm.
...or heck, even Jesus Christ himself, who gave them the power to loose and bind.
It is after all His Church.
Iconoclasts do indeed stand in stark contrast to the Apostles, fathers of the Church founded by Christ.
The usual suspect :shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
the sophomores running up and down the halls shouting ;
"our Jesus is a Roman Catholic subject to the silly little men in Rome!" Forgive me L-rd.
Well....evidently difficult for you as all of your sources except one date from after the first century. And there is no proof of the authenticity of the other.
The Didache says.....according to your thread: But every Lord's day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure.
Just what does the original Language here call the "Lord's Day"? Was this canonized? Why not? Oh....they found it much later? I see.
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