Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

From Sabbath TO Sunday!
Newswatch Magazine ^

Posted on 05/02/2009 2:35:35 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 321-340 next last

1 posted on 05/02/2009 2:35:35 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan
i always thought it was changed from Sat to Sun because Christ was risen on a Sunday...
2 posted on 05/02/2009 3:00:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Truly wonderful and full of scriptures proving so many things. Thank you.


3 posted on 05/02/2009 3:02:02 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chode

A common misconception..


4 posted on 05/02/2009 3:27:17 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC

ping


5 posted on 05/02/2009 3:47:30 PM PDT by STYRO
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished"

This should apply to all the commandments....not just the Sabbath.

6 posted on 05/02/2009 4:08:18 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chode
" i always thought it was changed from Sat to Sun because Christ was risen on a Sunday...">/I>

Bingo, we have a winner. Christianity celebrates the Resurrection and the victory over death.

7 posted on 05/02/2009 4:23:03 PM PDT by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law; Chode
Early Church Fathers - Worship on Sabbath or Sunday
8 posted on 05/02/2009 4:48:13 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law
" i always thought it was changed from Sat to Sun because Christ was risen on a Sunday..."

Bingo, we have a winner. Christianity celebrates the Resurrection and the victory over death.

The problem with this analysis, of course....is the simple fact that the Greek language no where shows Sunday as the day of resurrection. The original manuscripts all say "The Sabbath". The Catholic/Protestant bloc would have you believe otherwise....and they use this spurious claim to continue their illegitimate position regarding the first day of the week (Sunday). [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Luke 24:1][John 20:1] all say "On one of the Sabbaths". The word in the Greek is SABBATWN which means a special Sabbath....one that is counted between Passover and Pentecost [Leviticus 23:15-16].

9 posted on 05/02/2009 6:19:15 PM PDT by Diego1618
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan; Salvation
From my current reading:
The principle underlying the Sabbath is formulated in the Decalogue itself. It consists in this, that man must copy God in the course of life. The divine creative work completed itself in six days, whereupon the seventh followed as a day of rest for God. In connection with God, "rest" cannot, of course, mean mere cessation from labour, far less recovery from fatigue. Such a meaning is by no means required by the Old Testament usage of the word. "Rest" resembles the word "peace" in this respect, that it has in Scripture, in fact to the Shemitic mind generally, a positive rather than a negative import. It stands for consummation of a work accomplished and the joy and satisfaction attendant upon this. Such was its prototype in God. Mankind must copy this, and that not only in the sequences of daily existence as regards individuals; but in its collective capacity through a large historic movement. For mankind, too, a great task waits to be accomplished, and at its close beckons a rest of joy and satisfaction that shall copy the rest of God.

Before all other important things, therefore, the Sabbath is an expression of the eschatological principle on which the life of humanity has been constructed.

...

The universal Sabbath law received a modified significance under the Covenant of Grace. The work which issues into the rest can now no longer be man's own work. It becomes the work of Christ. This the Old Testament and the New Testament have in common. But they differ as to the perspective in which they each see th emergence of work and rest. Inasmuch as the Old Covenant was still looking forward to the performance of the Messianic work, naturally the days of labour to it come first, the day of rest falls at the end of the week. We, under the New Covenant, look back upon the accomplished work of Christ. We, therefore, first celebrate the rest in principle procured by Christ, although the Sabbath also still remains a sign looking forward to the final eschatological rest. The Old Testament people of God had to typify in their life the future developments of redemption. Consequently the precedence of labour and the consequence of rest had to find expression in their calendar. The New Testament Church has no such typical function to perform, for the types have been fulfilled. But is has a great historic event to commemorate, the performance of the work of Christ and the entrance of Him and of His people through Him upon the state of never-ending rest. We do not sufficiently realize the profound sense the early Church had of the epoch-making significance of the appearance, and especially of the resurrection of the Messiah. The latter was to them nothing less than the bringing in of a new, the second, creation. And they felt that this ought to find expression in the placing of the Sabbath with reference to the other days of the week. Believers knew themselves in a measure partakers of the Sabbath-fulfillment. If the one creation required on sequence, then the other required another. It has been strikingly observed, that our Lord died on the eve of that Jewish Sabbath, at th end of one of these typical weeks of labour by which His work and its consummation were prefigured. And Christ entered upon His rest, the rest of His new, eternal life on the first day of the week, so that the Jewish Sabbath comes to lie between, was, as it were, disposed of, buried in His grave. (Delitzsch.) If there is in the New Testament no formal enactment regarding this change, the cause lies in the superfluousness of it. Doubtless Jewish Christians began with observing both days, and only gradually the instinctive perception of the sacredness of the day of the Lord's resurrection began to make itself felt.

--Geerhardus Vos, Biblical Theology, Banner of Truth Press, p 140-142

Hmmm. WWCoG spin-off?

10 posted on 05/02/2009 7:31:45 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

My goodness the stench!

I thought I was driving past a pulp mill but no, that sulfurous stench is anti-Catholic hatred.


11 posted on 05/02/2009 7:33:16 PM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diego1618

Christ was crucified, died and was buried on Friday and rose again from the dead on Sunday.


12 posted on 05/02/2009 7:34:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Petronski; All
Christ was crucified, died and was buried on Friday and rose again from the dead on Sunday.

This is a fantasy that has been perpetuated for the last 1700 years. The reason it became implanted to begin with was the sheer power of the newly formed Church/State system which saw to it that all contrary thought and opinion was forbidden and punishable by death for anyone who continued in that vein. Any doctrine that smacked of Judaism was declared a heresy and totally eliminated from Catholic dogma. Unfortunately....they neglected to consider that Our Lord and the Apostles....as well as most of the early Christians were Jewish! In fact Christianity was considered a sect of Judaism 30 years after the crucifixion [Acts 28:21-22]. Think how silly people would appear if they called modern Catholicism a Jewish sect today. This will give you an idea of how far this insidious organization has taken the "Church of the First Century".....and demolished the original intent of Our Lord and the Apostles!

This diabolical system has grown to represent most of the false doctrine that has much of humanity perpetually confused about Our Lord and God of the universe. It had been infused with paganism to make it attractive to the masses and over the years has gained an aura of legitimacy.

However.....a cursory examination of the doctrines of the Catholic Church will find that most are wrong, most are invented, most are non scriptural and all are devised to keep the masses ignorant.

A classic example of what I write of appears at the top of this post. Christ was crucified on a Wednesday (easy to verify for the curious), He was buried shortly before sundown on that same day (14th Nisan, 30 A.D.) (again, very simple to prove with secular world history), and He arose from the dead on the Sabbath. The Greek Language proves this, the original manuscripts testify to it and any one who has the slightest interest in learning the truth about this question has no excuse for continuing to believe the lies that have been told about this event for the last 1700 years.

You can kick and scream all you want about your silly little Friday afternoon/Sunday morning affair but the truth is unchangeable and is written for all to see.

13 posted on 05/02/2009 8:06:38 PM PDT by Diego1618
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Petronski

Gnosticism never dies...its devotees do.

Imagine all the ink that could have been spilled on “harvesting” if our Lord had not slapped that one down.


14 posted on 05/02/2009 8:18:44 PM PDT by papertyger (Advertising makes journalism an assault weapon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I’ll stick to Saturday, thanks.


15 posted on 05/03/2009 7:04:10 AM PDT by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lee N. Field
Thanks for the insight, Geerhardus Vos has some good teaching.

So if I got it right those that are alive in Christ don't necessary rest on Sunday or Saturday(which is part of works) but celebrate the peace that Christ brings us in his new creation.

Could we say that while Christ was in the grave he was still doing his work of interceeded for us from a non visible viewpoint, I'm not quite sure what that work would of been from a theological point of view and I'm not sure if I'm entering the territory of heresy, but what I'm thinking right now is that Christ did not not fully rest/or celebrate from his order of salvation until he arose from the grave. The question that comes to my mind trying to grasp the order of salvation is this where does the mediation/intercession fit into the whole scheme. Is it fully finished with the physical death of Christ or is it continualed in heaven right after the death of Christ, what I'm thinking of is that the physical death of Christ on the cross is not the end of of the mediation/intercession but their is more to it that went on right after his death. Am I wash up or on the right track.

Ok lets assume I'm on the right track, basically those that argue worshipping on Saturday are missing a step in their theology. Basically a poor mans theology, simplistic theology that unrelentlessly keeps simplifying their theology till there is nothing left of substance, that the poor uneducated that don't want to think can grasp and be happy with to justify their works of going to Church on Saturday or Sunday, bascially a feel good theology. Ok I'm sure to get flame on that last paragraph.

16 posted on 05/03/2009 7:13:36 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...
pinging the GRPL list to see what the reformed think of my rant and rave on #16, and to add or clarify my thinking, is their more to the work of Christ between the physical death of Christ and the Resurrection, is their a step inbetween. Enquiring mind wants to know.
17 posted on 05/03/2009 7:23:21 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Diego1618
No, this baloney about how all Christendom is wrong and a select coterie of hebraicists are right is the fantasy.

Over and over and over this "pagan day of the Sun" claim is made, disproved, and then reposted as if nothing happened. The other name for that is LYING.

However.....a cursory examination of the doctrines of the Catholic Church will find that most are wrong, most are invented, most are non scriptural and all are devised to keep the masses ignorant.

But an intelligent, thoughtful, prayerful examination will demonstrate otherwise. Next time try doing better than cursory.

18 posted on 05/03/2009 7:24:56 AM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Now, now, you don’t want to throw evidence in there to spoil a good heresy justifying their separation from His Church.


19 posted on 05/03/2009 7:31:48 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("You used to be so charming, before you 'became' God")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Petronski
I wish those who have separated themselves from Christ's Church would switch to Saturday. Beach traffic would be much more manageable with some of them attending services (whatever the heck that is) once in awhile.
20 posted on 05/03/2009 7:36:39 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("You used to be so charming, before you 'became' God")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 321-340 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson