Posted on 12/02/2023 4:50:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Signatures have always been used for two purposes: to show our authorization of a transaction, and as a means of identification. That second function — identification — is fast becoming obsolete, at least with regard to voting.
Prior to the creation of Social Security, there was no national registry of citizens. Signatures were all that we had and all that we needed for voter identification. After all, we almost always voted in person, right in our own neighborhoods.
We now have unique ID numbers — courtesy of Social Security and other systems such as driver licensing bureaus and state identification systems. We no longer need to rely on signatures for identification. Furthermore, signatures don’t work in this era of mail-in ballots.
Republicans will never achieve the political power they deserve until they relentlessly insist on real ID requirements instead of “signature matching.”
If you Google the topic of “voter signature matching,” almost every article you find will bemoan the terrible way signature matching is used to suppress the vote of our marginalized voters (i.e., Democrat voters). Oddly, however, you won’t hear any of these social crusaders advocating for the replacement of signature matching with any other system (except, perhaps, the “honor system,” which is sure to have no honor at all). They understand that signature matching is the key to their survival.
Research shows very clearly that non-forensic document examiners, such as the nonprofessionals who work in the local election office, are not even slightly effective when it comes to spotting phony signatures.
In the Journal of Forensic Science, three scholars (Jodi Sita, Bryan Found, and Douglas Rogers) wrote: “To our knowledge, there are only a limited number of published studies that compare [forensic document examiners’] ability in handwriting identification with that of the average person.”
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I think even my neighbors could tell the difference between a signature - and no signature.
Voter ID is impossible in the USA because of slavery and Jim Crow. That is the conversation stopper we have to deal with.
Perhaps good enough. I participated as an online volunteer in a True The Vote signature verification of Wisconsin votes. I’m pretty sure that the signatures we flagged as questionable were then reviewed by professionals.
Republicans had a chance to push for photo ID laws for years since it has 80% support across the board. Now it’s “political” and it’s too late to fix the problem.
My “official” signature hasn’t changed at all over the past few decades. I can look at documents I signed 40 years ago and my signature is pretty much the same. What I’m concerned about is when a absentee voting request signature shows the signing of “Joe Blow” in legible writing and then the actual ballot shows a unreadable squiggle or slash.
I would think most eligible voters use their “bank document” signature when signing their name on absentee ballots. When squiggly lines or slashes look so similar to the same squiggle of other absentee voter’s signature, I become concerned.
Agree that signatures are rapidly becoming obsolete, as anyone who has ever used his finger to “sign” something on a touchscreen knows. A thumbprint, applied in the presence of a reliable witness, would be much better, but that’s not going to happen, because racism or something.
My sig has completely changed. Usually electronic sig these days, i just make a line.
The only way you affirm that you are a US citizen in order to legally vote in Washington state is a signature on your ballot affirming you are indeed citizen.
No other “proof” is needed, even at the time you register to vote (automatically when you get a photo driver’s license by the way).
What could go wrong?
My absentee vote for Trump in 2016 was rejected because my signatures “didnt match”.
I’ve since changed my registration so an absentee ballot isn’t needed.
Conversation stopper? Are you some kind of BLM plant? The only BLM we like is the one voting for President Trump.
Been on the Sig Ver committee for 10 yrs
Had to give a thumb print for drivers license.
Had to give my thumbprint for a drivers license!
For drivers license in Calif had to place thumb on digital reader paired with my photo and signature. How hard is it to verify voters when we have this technology? This is voter ID.
In Arizona the signature verification is worthless. Kari Lake sued to see if these signatures matched with the one on record . A corrupt pin head judge recently denied her request.
I remember when Federal checks included the instructions to sign signature or make your mark with pen or indelible pencil.
B$, you can't have voter ID because it makes it hard for democrats to win, in fact it becomes so hard in places that democrats run as republicans in order to win.
Maybe you are not old enough, I can't even get close to a real signature anymore. Crazy that the required my full name as indicated on my birth certificate which I had never used in my life so I actually have to draw my signature. Of course I live in Oregon now so only the shadow knows if voting makes any difference anyway.
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