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Federal judge rules Oregon's tough new gun law is constitutional
The Associated Press (via MSN.com) ^ | 15 July 2023

Posted on 07/15/2023 11:15:55 PM PDT by zeestephen

Oregon voters in November narrowly passed Measure 114, which requires residents to undergo safety training and a background check to obtain a permit to buy a gun...The legislation also bans the sale, transfer or import of gun magazines with more than 10 rounds...

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; creepstate; deepstate; doregon; federalstooge; karinjimmergut; mcconnelljudge; measure114; nra; oregon; policestate; resisttyranny; rkba; secondamendment; singlepartystate; voicevote
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District Judge Karin J. Immergut - Trump nomination - Confirmed by Voice Vote - Not one Republican Senator thought it was necessary to go on the record as opposed to the nomination.

Immergut Decision - Large capacity magazines "are not commonly used for self-defense, and are therefore not protected by the Second Amendment..."

Measure 114 passed by just 1.4% of a heavy state wide vote, so, there is some chance it can be repealed in the future.

1 posted on 07/15/2023 11:15:55 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

TYRANY!!


2 posted on 07/15/2023 11:17:37 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: zeestephen

Many pistols hold more than 10 rounds. And self-defense is only one reason why we have the 2nd Amendment.


3 posted on 07/15/2023 11:18:31 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

Tar and feathers are needed. Tyrant in robes!


4 posted on 07/15/2023 11:21:23 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: zeestephen

So, when I travel to Oregon, with my Oregon CCW, do I have to leave home my higher capacity firearms?


6 posted on 07/15/2023 11:35:04 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: zeestephen

This is why women have no business being in any court. If this make it to the Supreme Court, expect ACB to side with the leftist hags on this.


7 posted on 07/15/2023 11:38:44 PM PDT by fwdude (Conservatism isn't just an ingredient you can add to a sh*t stew & call it good. It's comprehensive.)
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To: zeestephen
Reported out of the senate judiciary committee:

Karin J. Immergut, to be United States District Judge for the District of Oregon

REPORTED: ROLL CALL VOTE
20-2

Aye: Graham, Grassley, Cornyn, Lee, Cruz, Sasse, Hawley, Tillis, Ernst, Crapo,
Kennedy, Blackburn, Feinstein, Leahy (Proxy), Durbin, Whitehouse (Proxy), Klobuchar,
Coons (Proxy), Blumenthal, Booker (Proxy)

Nay: Hirono, Harris

8 posted on 07/15/2023 11:43:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Probably a Kurshner recommendation.


9 posted on 07/15/2023 11:45:22 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: zeestephen

....Reports the AP gleefully......

Won’t stand up to SCOTUS, but it’ll take years to get there, and meanwhile they get to play their petty tyrant games.

Massive non-compliance by criminals is a given, of course.


10 posted on 07/15/2023 11:47:40 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: kiryandil

Crazy Mazie will note vote for ANYTHING a Republican wants or proposes.
That is why she is Crazy Mazie.
Hopefully we can replace her with Tulsi Gabbard.
Democrat, anti 2A but not a nut case.
Most Hawaiian citizens do not vote for Republicans, they have genetic defects and can’t think critically.
Aloha.


11 posted on 07/15/2023 11:52:27 PM PDT by rellic
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To: rellic

In case you are confused my comment
“Most Hawaiian citizens do not vote for Republicans, they have genetic defects and can’t think critically.”
Refered to Hawaiians, Democrats and Hawaii Republicans.
I was trying to be terse.


12 posted on 07/15/2023 11:59:39 PM PDT by rellic
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To: 21twelve
You have the freedom to keep and bear arms *that we allow.

You have the freedom of speech *that we allow.

You have the freedom of religion *that we allow.

13 posted on 07/16/2023 12:02:13 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: 21twelve

From my reading over the decades on this. self defense is absolutely not an issue. As is hunting. This is a political-social measure. The idea, though not explicitly stated, is to preserve an extrapolitical means of redress vs a government gone awry.

Its a license for revolution.

This is almost a unique thing in the world, and perhaps the only one. It is probably the only remnant of the revolutionary character of the US.


14 posted on 07/16/2023 12:15:55 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: zeestephen

Let’s see what the SCOTUS has to say.

Haven’t magazine limits been stricken down before/


15 posted on 07/16/2023 12:24:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: cowboyusa

A fool in robes.


16 posted on 07/16/2023 12:34:02 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: zeestephen

The people of Portland can now sleep more peacefully knowing that they are protected by more useless gun control regulations as the zombie, druggie hordes occupy their property. Life in the blue states becomes more dystopian.


17 posted on 07/16/2023 1:01:51 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: buwaya

The rights of the people to have guns was for a lot of reasons - and the ability to throw off an oppressive government (like King George) was huge. And to be able to throw off America’s new government as well if need be.

But it also includes a person’s natural rights, and God-given rights. Which includes his personal defense of his life and others and his property.

I think if we just focus on the political, it is easier for these liberals to take away our rights. “Why does anybody need a gun? That is what the police are for! Or the militia, we have an army now.”

I just did a quick search remembering that some of the early state constitutions talked about self defense:

“When Pennsylvania adopted the first right-to-bear-arms guarantee in the newly independent states in 1776, it did not do so in a vacuum. That it was an established right under common law or natural law seems to be suggested by Commonwealth v. Ray, which declared void a Philadelphia
ordinance prohibiting the unlicensed carrying of a firearm on public property. The Pennsylvania Superior Court invalidated the city ordinance on the following grounds:

The right of citizens of Pennsylvania to bear arms in defense of themselves; their property and the State predates any Constitution of the Commonwealth, and has been
embodied in every Constitution we have had...

“Article I, Section 1. All men are born equally free and
independent, and have certain inherent and indefeasible rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing and protecting property and reputation, and of pursuing their
own happiness.

Article I, Section 21. The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.”

***********************

Later on in that paper they talked about the Massachusett’s constitution which only talks about the defense of the state. Some guy was parading in the street with a firearm by himself and was charged with a crime. The idea was that he was not in training or any form associated with defense of the state.

Of course that same argument is about the 2nd Amendment today due to liberals not understanding what “militia” means, nor “well-regulated”. And I forget the terminology, but how “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” is independent of the militia thing in the sentence structure.


18 posted on 07/16/2023 1:03:40 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve
Noah Webster said it best ...

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”

(Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787)
19 posted on 07/16/2023 1:14:20 AM PDT by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: zeestephen

It’s actually worse, the measure says any magazine capable of being modified to hold more than ten rounds is illegal. This eliminates virtually every magazine out there, regardless if it hold less than 10, as they all have detachable floor plates that can add +2 extensions. Magazines will have to be welded shut or glued shut, or built to never accept extensions, like a Smith 3913, 4014, etc.

This is such an evil law. If only a few more Republicans had bothered to vote it wouldn’t have passed, the lazy sods!


20 posted on 07/16/2023 1:16:48 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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