One of yours.
Posted on 09/27/2022 1:22:06 PM PDT by EBH
“Russia most certainly will openly obtain revenge.”
I believe that to be true.
And every energy storage/distribution hub in Europe and the US is now at risk.
Severe risk.
This continuing Ukrainian situation weakens Europe, the US and Russia. China actually makes money reselling Russian energy to Europe.
More so weakens Europe and Russia.
Far less weakens the US, the principal Chinese adversary.
“Gee, who would have done this?
They....
-Have submersibles which can puncture a reinforced steel and cement pipeline.
-Benefit from decreasing EU’s supply of gas while not violating Russia’s contract to supply the gas.
-Has little regard for multi-national, contracts, treaties or laws.
Yeah, who could that possibly be?”
That could a dozen different countries. Who are you suspecting?
Any explosion, any displacement of water, air, or across electromagnetic spectrum, would be redundantly and dynamically detected, and by different types of sensors, regardless of source.
The size and damage of a mere gas explosion vs non-gas explosion is mute.
No one can conclude from a single factor, and that single factor being an explosion along a gas line itself, what the cause actually was/is.
Other factors must be determined.
Having formerly been involved in determinative Russian sabotage investigations of both land and underwater structures and cables globally, andM in a highly politicized atmosphere, it would be very easy for me to jump to conclusions as well.
Especially after this —
NS1 and NS2 are immediately adjacent lines, until the union and diversion proximal NE of Bornholm, where all kinds of recent Russian underwater activity, and gas line “maintenance” involving Russia shutting off Russian gas, and not just has line naval vessels have been monitored and protested by Denmark and Sweden.
🇳🇱 Anyone remember this —
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/
And this —
🇳🇱 “...island of Bornholm.”
There is actually a whole lot more information, both OS and Classified.
But even after all that, no one can determine that a blast itself was sabotage, and done by who, just because there was a blast.
That is just plain stupod and foolish.
Neither individual bias itself, nor overwhelming consensus determines a fact, truth, or science. 🇺🇸🎚
Any explosion, any displacement of water, air, or across electromagnetic spectrum, would be redundantly and dynamically detected, and by different types of sensors, regardless of source.
The size and damage of a mere gas explosion vs non-gas explosion is almost mute.
No one can conclude from a single factor, and that single factor being an explosion along a gas line itself, what the cause actually was/is.
Other factors must be determined.
Having formerly been involved in determinative Russian sabotage investigations of both land and underwater structures and cables globally, and worse, now in a highly politicized atmosphere, it would be very easy for me to jump to conclusions as well.
Especially after Putin reacted to EU support of UA by physically shutting off NS1 bery recently, and knowing we are dealing with a mastermind more than capable of pretext.
Especially after this —
NS1 and NS2 are immediately adjacent lines, until the union and diversion proximal NE of Bornholm, where all kinds of recent Russian underwater activity, and gas line “maintenance” involving Russia shutting off Russian gas, and not just has line naval vessels have been monitored and protested by Denmark and Sweden.
🇳🇱 Anyone remember this —
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/
And this —
🇳🇱 “...island of Bornholm.”
There is actually a whole lot more information, both OS and Classified.
But even after all that, no one can determine that a blast itself was sabotage, or done by who, just because there was a blast.
That is just plain stupid and foolish.
Neither individual bias itself, nor overwhelming consensus determines a fact, truth, or science. 🇺🇸🎚
One of yours.
Hilarious Response -
I should not have included ought-six in that response #65.
I apologize ought-six, and your response was/is correct and prudent. 🇺🇸
I should not have included ought-six in that response #65.
I apologize ought-six, and your response was/is correct and prudent. 🇺🇸
I decided to check the issue of armaments left in Afghanistan and found it is more complex than frequently stated by those who do not know the details.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.html
This article points out that the $7 billion figure mostly refers to material turned over to the Afghan government over 16 years prior to our pulling out. This would mostly have been done by several administrations prior to Biden’s election. Items that were left in Baghram were not turned over to the Taliban and were mostly rendered useless. Also much of the equipment there needed maintenance by skilled Americans along with American parts, no longer available to Taliban.
One thing that surprised me was information about equipment turned over to or moved to Ukraine before the Feb. 24th invasion. “five Mi-17 helicopters that had been in Afghanistan were officially transferred to Ukraine in 2022, though they were already in Ukraine for maintenance before the US left Afghanistan.” Also equipment that was in the pipeline for Afghanistan but not delivered has now been sent to Ukraine. The Taliban did end up with small items they are capable of using at their level of education. It is likely that some of this ended up in other than Taliban hands as well.
Biometric databases top my list of horrific crimes committed by team Biden.
These databases were ultimately given/taken by Chinese and Russian GRU/FSB and MSS.
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnandandyschlafly/2021/09/01/what-biden-left-behind-n2595107
What happened here is fundamental treason.
Even while a true Believer, and a true conservator, I have been heavily tied to the US IC, and am aware, while acting as a true puppet, team Biden turned over loyal to US “assets” and their families (often Christian Afghans, Chinese, and CIS nationals), to be hunted down and gruesomely tortured and murdered.
Bush and Trump had developed significant US assets which puppet Biden turned over to Moscow, Beijing, and Iran.
Biometric databases top my list of horrific crimes committed by team Biden.
These databases were ultimately given/taken by Chinese and Russian GRU/FSB and MSS.
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnandandyschlafly/2021/09/01/what-biden-left-behind-n2595107
What happened here is fundamental treason.
Even while a true Believer, and a true conservative, I have been heavily tied to the US IC, and am aware, while acting as a true puppet, team Biden turned over loyal to US “assets” and their families (often Christian Afghans, Chinese, and CIS nationals), to be hunted down and gruesomely tortured and murdered.
Bush and Trump had developed significant US assets which puppet Biden turned over to Moscow, Beijing, and Iran.
“In whose interest is it to sabotage the pipeline?
The Russians?
The Europeans?
The CIA? “
We need Tom Clancy around to decipher this.
Doesn’t make sense
You are correct, and I do agree with you, there are different ways to parley much of the equipment.
But it was really really bad.
Smoke and mirrors aside, we are obviously in the back pocket of some really evil ombre’s
If the US leadership is in China’s pocket, same result.
“This is one of the stupidest Brandon moves yet, right up there with giving Bagram and hundreds of Billions of armaments and aircraft to the Terrorist Taliban.”
That’s an insane exaggeration, and you know it; or, you should know it. The US didn’t leave “...hundreds of Billions of armaments and aircraft to the Terrorist Taliban.”
Even if you meant “hundreds of billions” of dollars’ worth of armaments and aircraft you’d still be wildly exaggerating: The best figure is $85 billion to $86 billion, both of which are bad enough; no need to exaggerate it; it only makes you look foolish.
The article I linked at comment #73 also said the following:
“The US gave a total of $18.6 billion of equipment to the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) from 2005 to August 2021, according to the report. Of that total, equipment worth $7.12 billion remained in Afghanistan after the US withdrawal was completed on August 30, 2021. It included aircraft, air-to-ground munitions, military vehicles, weapons, communications equipment and other materials, according to the DoD report.
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Exclusive: Top US general tells CNN ‘global international security order’ is at stake following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine
The huge value of the hardware left behind will serve to refocus attention on the chaotic and hasty Afghanistan withdrawal that has been heavily criticized by lawmakers from both parties. “Much of the remaining equipment” left in Afghanistan requires “specialized maintenance that DoD contractors previously provided” to Afghan forces “in the form of technical knowledge and support,” the report states.”
So the $7 billion referred to what was left of $18.6 billion given to the Afgan government, and unlikely to be usable by the primative Taliban. Material left at Baghram belonged to the US military, and was mostly disabled or useless at this point. I find it hard to believe that the other values came anywhere close to a total of $85 billion.
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