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I Was Wrong About Trump Voters (Bret Stephens, NYT)
nytimes ^ | 7/21/2022 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 07/23/2022 6:21:35 PM PDT by bitt

The worst line I ever wrote as a pundit — yes, I know, it’s a crowded field — was the first line I ever wrote about the man who would become the 45th president: “If by now you don’t find Donald Trump appalling, you’re appalling.”

This opening salvo, from August 2015, was the first in what would become dozens of columns denouncing Trump as a unique threat to American life, democratic ideals and the world itself. I regret almost nothing of what I said about the man and his close minions. But the broad swipe at his voters caricatured them and blinkered me.

It also probably did more to help than hinder Trump’s candidacy. Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds. What were they seeing that I wasn’t?

That ought to have been the first question to ask myself. When I looked at Trump, I saw a bigoted blowhard making one ignorant argument after another. What Trump’s supporters saw was a candidate whose entire being was a proudly raised middle finger at a self-satisfied elite that had produced a failing status quo.

I was blind to this. Though I had spent the years of Barack Obama’s presidency denouncing his policies, my objections were more abstract than personal. I belonged to a social class that my friend Peggy Noonan called “the protected.” My family lived in a safe and pleasant neighborhood. Our kids went to an excellent public school. I was well paid, fully insured, insulated against life’s harsh edges.

Trump’s appeal, according to Noonan, was largely to people she called “the unprotected.” Their neighborhoods weren’t so safe and pleasant. Their schools weren’t so excellent. Their livelihoods weren’t so secure. Their experience of America was often one of cultural and economic

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bretstephens; bs; chat; fakeapology; fakenews; moreoldnews; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; notnews; peggynoonan; stephens; tds; trump; voters
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1 posted on 07/23/2022 6:21:35 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 07/23/2022 6:21:49 PM PDT by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%> )
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To: bitt

Bret Stephens, take a good long look in a mirror.
You are an insufferable douche


3 posted on 07/23/2022 6:26:59 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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snip.....”But I would also approach these voters in a much different spirit than I did the last time. “A drop of honey catches more flies than a gallon of gall,” noted Abraham Lincoln early in his political career. “If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend.” Words to live by, particularly for those of us in the business of persuasion.”

(”first convince him that you are his sincere friend.”
....well, I think we’re well beyond that...)


4 posted on 07/23/2022 6:27:02 PM PDT by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%> )
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To: bitt

Pathetic attempt, he’s still is contemptuous of traditional Americans.


5 posted on 07/23/2022 6:28:45 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: bitt

Bret Stephens speaks well and confesses. This is a good thing.

I’m persuaded he’s sincere.


6 posted on 07/23/2022 6:29:22 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: bitt

Bret Stevens is a good example of the truth that the Left isn’t really going after Trump, they’re REALLY going after YOU AND I.


7 posted on 07/23/2022 6:29:40 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: bitt

This guy is a snit. Doesn’t understand that smiling at someone while you lie to them doesn’t work with conservatives. We don’t respond to sweet talking libtards. Satan can talk sweet talk and we can tell that it’s still him. You snits don’t have a chance to fool us.


8 posted on 07/23/2022 6:30:35 PM PDT by trailboss800
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He went to the New York Times to trash conservatives. He lied about Trump.


9 posted on 07/23/2022 6:30:39 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: bitt

Is this a lame attempt at an apology?


10 posted on 07/23/2022 6:30:41 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed the nation who se GOD is the LORD. ~ Psalm 33:12)
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To: bitt

What really riles up liberals is being disagreed with; the reasons are collateral and secondary, so they are already pissed off before you get to the substance of the disagreement. That’s why they get to the accusations and name calling so quickly.


11 posted on 07/23/2022 6:30:45 PM PDT by Spok (Don’t pee down my leg and tell me it’s raining.)
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To: bitt

Get lost blowhard. No takebacks


12 posted on 07/23/2022 6:31:10 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bitt

Drop dead, Bret.


13 posted on 07/23/2022 6:34:32 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: bitt

Donald J Trump is the best President this country has had in the last hundred years...IMHO...and I loved Ronald Reagan!!!!


14 posted on 07/23/2022 6:35:08 PM PDT by ontap
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To: bitt

He only means to convince. If he can’t convince you willingly, it’s back to convincing you with force.


15 posted on 07/23/2022 6:35:53 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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To: trailboss800

You’re right.

Don’t Texans have a saying “You’re all hat boy and no saddle’’.


16 posted on 07/23/2022 6:38:25 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Steven Tyler

I think that he should be made to watch his home and possessions burned to the ground, then be stripped naked and driven into the wilderness.


17 posted on 07/23/2022 6:39:10 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: bitt

The hook is at the end. This is a trick article designed to pull in gullible people. I bet this guy hates Trump as much as ever.


18 posted on 07/23/2022 6:41:58 PM PDT by Revel
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19 posted on 07/23/2022 6:50:07 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Revel
The hook is at the end. This is a trick article designed to pull in gullible people.

It won’t work.

20 posted on 07/23/2022 6:50:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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