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Trump orders voting districts to exclude people in U.S. illegally
Reuters ^ | 21 July 2020 | Mica Rosenberg, Nick Brown, Mimi Dwyer

Posted on 07/21/2020 12:52:16 PM PDT by BeauBo

President Donald Trump signed a memorandum on Tuesday that would prevent migrants who are in the United States illegally from being counted when U.S. congressional voting districts are next redrawn, triggering swift rebukes from Democrats and at least one promise of litigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; alreuters; apportionment; census; dnctalkingpoints; illegals; immigration; neverpostedthxbb; pravdamedia; search; trump; votingdistricts; yellowjournalism
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Good!
Break into Mexico, try to vote in their elections, and see what happens.
You’d likely spend the rest of your short life in a Mexican prison.


21 posted on 07/21/2020 2:36:01 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: dp0622
“What has happened to this country that this is even an issue???”

Easy answer. Smarmy, ignorant, hateful, self-righteous, and narcissistic academics (including those who think going to a university somehow gives them special wisdom) who will do ANYTHING to get their way. They are the enemy of our Republic, and nothing short of total humiliation will stop them from being a nuisance. They are like self-convinced mosquitoes who feel totally justified in sucking the blood of anyone they don't agree with.

When you deal with people like this, you have to go immediately, strongly, and incessantly after their self-perceived stature. You have to laugh at them, decimate them in argument, and do exactly what Alinsky instructed his minions to do - use ridicule and derision to diminish them, laugh at them, and anger them. Angry enemies make mistakes, and show their true colors. This is war.

22 posted on 07/21/2020 3:03:11 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: rightwingcrazy
If you go down that slippery slope, claiming non-citizens should be represented

The current law enumerates non-citizens, with Supreme Court decisions to support that practice. I don't know if the law requires counting of illegal immigrants, infiltrating Nazi saboteurs, and touring Italian tenors, but in practice, they are counting everyone including Cartel drug mules if they can.

23 posted on 07/21/2020 3:11:43 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: BeauBo

What authority do democrats have to say no?


24 posted on 07/21/2020 3:17:44 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: blueyon
Here is my thinking. I don't know if Donald Trump will get re-elected. I think he will, but if he doesn't, its not on him, its on the country.

President Trump hasn't been perfect, but he is the real deal. Post-mortums will blame him for doing this, or not doing that. But it is the country. It has some really fu--...screwed up people. If he loses, it is because the country is lost.

25 posted on 07/21/2020 3:20:32 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: bwest

I’m waiting on that to happen any time!


26 posted on 07/21/2020 4:10:32 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: BeauBo

Should we count all of the tourists in the hotels as well?


27 posted on 07/21/2020 4:15:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Stonewall1

I do not know. Possibly ?


28 posted on 07/21/2020 4:15:55 PM PDT by dp0622 (Trump!!)
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To: BeauBo

The Constitution’s command to count “every person” as part of the Census is not ambiguous and not optional.

Trump is renewing his attacks on the Census and a fair count.

We will fight this. You can too by making sure you are counted. https://t.co/JR4KK8n0MA— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) July 21, 2020


29 posted on 07/21/2020 4:25:49 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: bwest

Prolly before you typed the ‘o’ in ‘How’.


30 posted on 07/21/2020 4:47:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: centurion316
When the Constitution was written, it didn't occur to them that large numbers of people in the country illegally would some day be a problem and one big enough to effect the distribution of seats in the House of Representatives.

In the 1860 census, my great-grandfather (9 years old) was listed twice--once with his parents and once with another family (I don't know why he was staying with the other people--don't know if they were relatives of some kind). Potentially that could have given Virginia an extra seat in the House of Representatives, but since Virginia was out of the Union from 1861 to 1870, it didn't make any practical difference.

31 posted on 07/21/2020 4:59:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Miss Didi
Sorry Adam Schitt, but you know better, and the fact is, ILLEGAL ALIENS, dead people and children cannot vote in our elections and you can only vote one time in each election!

Who Can Vote?

You can vote in U.S. elections if you:

Are a U.S. citizen

Meet your state’s residency requirements

You can be homeless and still meet these requirements.

Are 18 years old on or before Election Day

Who CAN’T Vote?

Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents

Some people with felony convictions. Rules vary by state. Check with your state elections office about the laws in your state.

Some people who are mentally incapacitated. Rules vary by state.

For president in the general election: U.S. citizens residing in U.S. territories

32 posted on 07/21/2020 5:04:43 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Enterprise

[This is not a permanent ping list. It is only for purposes of pinging for this article because of your interest in the prior article I posted on this subject.]


Thanks for the ping. Not optimistic this will pass muster with the Federal courts, but it seems like a worthwhile effort.


33 posted on 07/21/2020 5:26:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: deks
Everyone should read this

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3867090/posts?page=13#13

Statement from the President Regarding Apportionment
IMMIGRATION

Issued on: July 21, 2020

If it works, it would stop millions of fraudulent votes..

34 posted on 07/21/2020 5:42:08 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: Verginius Rufus
When the Constitution was written, it didn't occur to them that large numbers of people in the country illegally would some day be a problem and one big enough to effect the distribution of seats in the House of Representatives.

At that time, immigrants to this country were required to sign a loyalty oath and were presumed to be candidates for citizenship. The exceptions were diplomats and mariners. The debate revolved around Indians and slaves. Neither were citizens but the way that they were counted was different. As a compromise, slaves were counted as 3/5th of a citizen. The South wanted them counted the same way as free inhabitants. The North didn't want them counted as all. The compromise gave the South more representatives than did the North's proposal. Before 1860, very few Indians were counted. After that census Indians living with the general population rather than on a reservation. Most reservation Indians were not counted until later. Double counting wasn't rare. Enumerators were assigned a certain households and they counted everyone living in a household. Since the enumerations did not happen on a single day, people in a family might well be counted twice if someone was counted in one household, and then were counted again if they traveled to another household that was counted later. Without computers, they had no way to reconcile all of the returns.

35 posted on 07/21/2020 5:43:01 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Brown Deer; All; everyone; anyone; Freeper; SierraWasp

Everyone should study the links in this post.

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3867090/posts

Trump orders voting districts to exclude people in U.S. illegally


36 posted on 07/21/2020 5:53:00 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: BeauBo

Good news. The voting districts should not be drawn based on the number of people in your district illegally.


37 posted on 07/21/2020 6:18:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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There’s also a presidential memorandum from today that goes into some detail. . .

Memorandum on Excluding Illegal Aliens From the Apportionment Base Following the 2020 Census

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-excluding-illegal-aliens-apportionment-base-following-2020-census/


38 posted on 07/21/2020 6:23:22 PM PDT by deks
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To: deks; Syncro; Grampa Dave; Anybody; Everybody; whoever; All
" is consistent with the principles of our representative democracy."

C'mon Mr. President, this is not any kind of a "democracy." It is a Republic led by duly elected representatives based on the righteous votes of documented Citizens either born here, or naturalized!!!

39 posted on 07/21/2020 7:16:34 PM PDT by SierraWasp (MASA (Make America Straight Again!!!))
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To: rightwingcrazy

Nonresident citizens can vote in United States elections. They vote in their place of last residence in the United States of America, or if they never resided in the country but still acquired citizenship, they can vote at the previous place of residence of their ancestors in the United States. So if you, an citizen of the United States of America, move to Central African Republic, then you still can vote. If your children born abroad acquire citizenship through you under American law, then they too can vote, even if they never visit their country.


40 posted on 07/21/2020 7:22:49 PM PDT by dufekin (Vote Trump; save lives)
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