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Trump orders voting districts to exclude people in U.S. illegally
Reuters ^ | 21 July 2020 | Mica Rosenberg, Nick Brown, Mimi Dwyer

Posted on 07/21/2020 12:52:16 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: Syncro

See... I read it with full and critical comprehension!!!


41 posted on 07/21/2020 7:23:15 PM PDT by SierraWasp (MASA (Make America Straight Again!!!))
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To: BeauBo

God I love this man.


42 posted on 07/21/2020 7:25:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("Black Lives Matter" becomes "Terse TV Blackmail"..... #AnagramsNeverLie)
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To: centurion316

“I don’t know if the law requires counting of illegal immigrants, infiltrating Nazi saboteurs, and touring Italian tenors...”

I am actually in favor of the touring Italian tenors.

Good one.


43 posted on 07/21/2020 7:31:10 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Lazamataz

“God I love this man.”

Amen.

And at 72, he is doing all this for our Country for free.

He deserves that spot on Mount Rushmore, next to Lincoln.


44 posted on 07/21/2020 7:38:11 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SierraWasp

Fer sure you did dropping some heavy truth and facts...which is facts!:

“...this is not any kind of a “democracy.” It is a Republic led by duly elected representatives based on the righteous votes of documented Citizens either born here, or naturalized!!!”


45 posted on 07/21/2020 7:49:37 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: deks

Here is the pertinent text, from your White House link:

Memorandum on Excluding Illegal Aliens From the Apportionment Base Following the 2020 Census
IMMIGRATION

Issued on: July 21, 2020

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF COMMERCE

SUBJECT: Excluding Illegal Aliens From the Apportionment Base Following the 2020 Census

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Background. In order to apportion Representatives among the States, the Constitution requires the enumeration of the population of the United States every 10 years and grants the Congress the power and discretion to direct the manner in which this decennial census is conducted (U.S. Const. art. I, sec. 2, cl. 3). The Congress has charged the Secretary of Commerce (the Secretary) with directing the conduct of the decennial census in such form and content as the Secretary may determine (13 U.S.C. 141(a)). By the direction of the Congress, the Secretary then transmits to the President the report of his tabulation of total population for the apportionment of Representatives in the Congress (13 U.S.C. 141(b)). The President, by law, makes the final determination regarding the “whole number of persons in each State,” which determines the number of Representatives to be apportioned to each State, and transmits these determinations and accompanying census data to the Congress (2 U.S.C. 2a(a)). The Congress has provided that it is “the President’s personal transmittal of the report to Congress” that “settles the apportionment” of Representatives among the States, and the President’s discretion to settle the apportionment is more than “ceremonial or ministerial” and is essential “to the integrity of the process” (Franklin v. Massachusetts, 505 U.S. 788, 799, and 800 (1992)).

The Constitution does not specifically define which persons must be included in the apportionment base. Although the Constitution requires the “persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed,” to be enumerated in the census, that requirement has never been understood to include in the apportionment base every individual physically present within a State’s boundaries at the time of the census. Instead, the term “persons in each State” has been interpreted to mean that only the “inhabitants” of each State should be included. Determining which persons should be considered “inhabitants” for the purpose of apportionment requires the exercise of judgment. For example, aliens who are only temporarily in the United States, such as for business or tourism, and certain foreign diplomatic personnel are “persons” who have been excluded from the apportionment base in past censuses. Conversely, the Constitution also has never been understood to exclude every person who is not physically “in” a State at the time of the census. For example, overseas Federal personnel have, at various times, been included in and excluded from the populations of the States in which they maintained their homes of record. The discretion delegated to the executive branch to determine who qualifies as an “inhabitant” includes authority to exclude from the apportionment base aliens who are not in a lawful immigration status.

In Executive Order 13880 of July 11, 2019 (Collecting Information About Citizenship Status in Connection With the Decennial Census), I instructed executive departments and agencies to share information with the Department of Commerce, to the extent permissible and consistent with law, to allow the Secretary to obtain accurate data on the number of citizens, non-citizens, and illegal aliens in the country. As the Attorney General and I explained at the time that order was signed, data on illegal aliens could be relevant for the purpose of conducting the apportionment, and we intended to examine that issue.

Sec. 2. Policy. For the purpose of the reapportionment of Representatives following the 2020 census, it is the policy of the United States to exclude from the apportionment base aliens who are not in a lawful immigration status under the Immigration and Nationality Act, as amended (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.), to the maximum extent feasible and consistent with the discretion delegated to the executive branch. Excluding these illegal aliens from the apportionment base is more consonant with the principles of representative democracy underpinning our system of Government. Affording congressional representation, and therefore formal political influence, to States on account of the presence within their borders of aliens who have not followed the steps to secure a lawful immigration status under our laws undermines those principles. Many of these aliens entered the country illegally in the first place. Increasing congressional representation based on the presence of aliens who are not in a lawful immigration status would also create perverse incentives encouraging violations of Federal law. States adopting policies that encourage illegal aliens to enter this country and that hobble Federal efforts to enforce the immigration laws passed by the Congress should not be rewarded with greater representation in the House of Representatives. Current estimates suggest that one State is home to more than 2.2 million illegal aliens, constituting more than 6 percent of the State’s entire population. Including these illegal aliens in the population of the State for the purpose of apportionment could result in the allocation of two or three more congressional seats than would otherwise be allocated.

I have accordingly determined that respect for the law and protection of the integrity of the democratic process warrant the exclusion of illegal aliens from the apportionment base, to the extent feasible and to the maximum extent of the President’s discretion under the law.

Sec. 3. Excluding Illegal Aliens from the Apportionment Base. In preparing his report to the President under section 141(b) of title 13, United States Code, the Secretary shall take all appropriate action, consistent with the Constitution and other applicable law, to provide information permitting the President, to the extent practicable, to exercise the President’s discretion to carry out the policy set forth in section 2 of this memorandum. The Secretary shall also include in that report information tabulated according to the methodology set forth in Final 2020 Census Residence Criteria and Residence Situations, 83 Fed. Reg. 5525 (Feb. 8, 2018).


46 posted on 07/21/2020 7:53:26 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: dp0622

Dem officials (city, county) like to pretend that they don’t know that only citizens of this country are allowed to vote.


47 posted on 07/21/2020 7:55:50 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: BeauBo

Bring it, Dems.


48 posted on 07/22/2020 12:39:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: dp0622

No where in this article did they say undocumented. Every time these invaders were pointed out it said “migrants illegally” and this is also a few words of BS. FIRST, they are not migrants, they are invaders if they are in our country illegally.

My big wonder, are non US Citizens even counted, such as foreign farm workers here LEGALLY.


49 posted on 07/22/2020 2:06:31 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: BiteYourSelf

Nah - make them the same status as a not-quite-born baby and allow “abortion at will”...


50 posted on 07/22/2020 3:04:43 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Miss Didi

the person was in reference to slaves, not freaking illegal aliens


51 posted on 07/22/2020 5:16:31 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: BeauBo

Shouldn’t have to tell people that, but, you do with cheatercrats.


52 posted on 07/22/2020 5:29:38 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BeauBo

Hell. No non citizens can vote! Why give the legal non-citizen migrants the right to vote?


53 posted on 07/22/2020 5:37:09 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: BeauBo

Of course, they should be excluded from all federal funding to local districts (eg, Medicaid reimbursement) as well.


54 posted on 07/22/2020 7:14:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BeauBo

This one might make it to John Roberts...

Care to guess his decision?


55 posted on 07/22/2020 7:17:24 AM PDT by MCEscherHammer
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

56 posted on 07/22/2020 7:33:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: trebb
Works for me.🇺🇸
57 posted on 07/22/2020 8:09:26 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf
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To: rightwingcrazy

Do domesticated livestock get a vote?

All of my hens are outspoken Trump supporters -


58 posted on 07/22/2020 9:27:12 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: BeauBo

EXCLUDE LEGAL ALIENS TOO!!!!!!

They should not be voting!


59 posted on 07/22/2020 11:00:12 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Verginius Rufus

My grandparents, mother and two aunts were counted twice in 1920, at two different addresses


60 posted on 07/22/2020 2:15:08 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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